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      Quiet people are the coolest.

      I know a lot of people who constantly talk, over and over, and over. They just won't shut up. My favorite people are the people who don't talk much, and don't say something dumb. I have a grandpa and he hardly says anything unless it's important or cool. When he speaks, it's just a statement of fact. It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

      It's true.

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      For me, it is not so much that I prefer quiet people over garrulous people....I just prefer intelligent people over idiots.
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      But some quiet people just mutter some crap every now and then... <=/

      But in some cases, like you grandpa, it can be cool to only say cool stuff yeah
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      people who are too quiet suck because they expect people to read their minds to meet their needs

      learn to talk assholes, that's why we, as a human race, have the anatomy and the brains to do it

      course I admit, knowing when NOT to talk is a handy skill, just to validate Ryan Paris there

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      i'm quiet, but i'm far from cool, believe me...


      theory = wrong

      Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
      people who are too quiet suck because they expect people to read their minds to meet their needs

      learn to talk assholes, that's why we, as a human race, have the anatomy and the brains to do it

      course I admit, knowing when NOT to talk is a handy skill, just to validate Ryan Paris there



      1) i do not expect ppl to read my mind to meet my needs... i just expect people to be friendly...
      2) i do not suck...
      3) i'm no asshole...
      4) \"that's why we, as a human race, have the anatomy and the brains to do it
      \" not really, if someone comes hanging over you, shouting \"friendless\" in your ears, you can't really speak of brains anymore... just a pitiful atempt to impress his/her/its friend(s)
      and what if i don't want to talk? it seems everyone has a problem when someone is being \"quiet\", not talking... about the senseless shit i hear every day...
      5) i can't really understand the 3rd paragraph there.

      question: are you \"quiet\"? answer: (i think) NO
      then how in gods name do you know how quiet people are like?
      when i say something, it seems as if no-one listens, as if they don't care...
      then MY brains say: \"fuck them\" and thus, i stop talking

      of course i may have several other reasons why i don't talk much...


      but then again: i know people who talk endlessly, and even you won't feel comfortable with them... believe me.



      there 8)



      Originally posted by Neruo
      But some quiet people just mutter some crap every now and then...
      like what?

      it may seem crap to you, but if it makes a quiet guy/girl.whatever mutter it, it seems like it is somewhat important, because after all: why would someone quiet mutter something if it is just "crap"?




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      I never shut the fuck up. 75% is worth hearing ( so I've been told )
      20% is trivial and 5% is usually the kind of shit that makes people want
      to smack me silly. Not like I give a fuck, most times I agree.

      Quiet people who are shy are fine, quiet people who are deep thinkers are fine,
      quiet people who kill their families while they sleep are not fine.

      You're getting sleepy......

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      [quote]But some quiet people just mutter some crap every now and then... <=//quote]


      like what?

      it may seem crap to you, but if it makes a quiet guy/girl.whatever mutter it, it seems like it is somewhat important, because after all: why would someone quiet mutter something if it is just \"crap\"?




      round 1 commencing

      Well I am very quiet around people I don't know... and when I saw something then, still being insecure, I mutter some random shit that no one really listens to and I can't blame them

      So I was just talking out of personal experience. Often quiet = shy = incertain = not talking like freaking M.L. King ^___^
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      Usual Suspects, anyone?

      Inane talking is immensely cool (but only when plotting a devious heist at the same time)

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      Quite people usually have nothing to say because they think slower. Loudmouthed bitches might have irritating thoughts, but at least they're thinking. Or something.

      Yeah that was the best I could come up with to defend my overinflated humongous ego. Watch out or it might hit you.

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      Originally posted by R.Carter
      I never shut the fuck up. 75% is worth hearing ( so I've been told )
      20% is trivial and 5% is usually the kind of shit that makes people want
      to smack me silly. Not like I give a fuck, most times I agree.

      Quiet people who are shy are fine, quiet people who are deep thinkers are fine,
      quiet people who kill their families while they sleep are not fine.
      heh.


      and OpheliaBlue, you are right in that many people are too quiet, meaning you have to squeeze information out of them, instead of them speaking up like an adult.

      however, unless i need to communicate, i generally stay silent. if somebody asks me a 'filler' question that requires no answer from me, i will often look at them silently until they realize that such questions are a pointless habit. whereupon they usually label me an asshole, but whatever...

      for instance, lets say its pouring rain outside

      questioner: "so, sure is pouring outside eh? you get wet?...."

      myself (standing with spots of rain on my shirt, two feet from a window): "......................."


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      I think the idea of this topic came from something I said on another one
      Here and there...

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      Originally posted by Asher

      for instance, lets say its pouring rain outside

      questioner: \"so, sure is pouring outside eh? you get wet?....\"

      myself (standing with spots of rain on my shirt, two feet from a window): \".......................\"
      lol, exactly. Consider this: I show up to work a few weeks ago, it's winter.

      Coworker asks, "So's it pretty cold outside?"

      ".. it's still winter." (you know, ACTUALLY! Surprisingly! I know, it's amazing!)

      >_<

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      Originally posted by Asher

      for instance, lets say its pouring rain outside

      questioner: \"so, sure is pouring outside eh? you get wet?....\"

      myself (standing with spots of rain on my shirt, two feet from a window): \".......................\"
      Originally posted by theroguechemist


      lol, exactly. Consider this: I show up to work a few weeks ago, it's winter.

      Coworker asks, \"So's it pretty cold outside?\"

      \".. it's still winter.\" (you know, ACTUALLY! Surprisingly! I know, it's amazing!)

      >_<
      Its called common courtesy (you know like holding a door for a stranger); by acknowledging someone elses presence and asking how they are doing or making a comment about the weather or some other trivial thing is a pretty common social response, especially if you are estranged the person and cant ask anything too personal. Im surprised you find it that odd, haven't you ever worked at a customer service industry job? its part of the job description to make small talk. If you expect to exist and thrive in today's interacting society you'd better get used to responding the proper way whether you like it or not. Shit or get off the pot, I always say. Sure you can be a so-called pioneer and come up with some quick retort to their pointless question but did you ever think that they knew it was a pointless question and were just being polite by today's societal rules? On top of that, the fact you ALL are on this forum conversing albeit in binary/ascii text format makes you equally, if not, more social than those claimed talkative people, which unfortunately makes anyone judging others- a hypocryte.

      Honestly, What makes your form of dialogue here at Dream Views any more genuine/important? Who knows? Maybe, if you actually took the time to answer peoples questions properly you could have a greater rapport with them and get to this same conversational level with people in the real world as well, not just binary and ascii.

      Sure, I agree that those questions we ask each other on a day-to-day basis are innane and pointless but they are an unfortunate requirement of the times.

      Success is not had by being an overtly unique snowflake all the time but rather by being that wolf in sheep's clothing, lying in wait. It's always better to be malleable to any situation and be complacent until the time dictates rather than let your real intentions be known too soon.


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      For now I'll leave alone the fact that you defended talking too much with a long winded post and skip to the real issues.
      Originally posted by SolSkye+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SolSkye)</div>
      Its called common courtesy...[/b]
      I have another word for it: annoying.
      <!--QuoteBegin-SolSkye

      Sure you can be a so-called pioneer and come up with some quick retort to their pointless question but did you ever think that they knew it was a pointless question and were just being polite by today's societal rules?
      Did they ever think that their \"politeness\" was royally pissing me off?

      So-called pioneer, please.
      Originally posted by SolSkye+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SolSkye)</div>
      On top of that, the fact you ALL are on this forum conversing albeit in binary/ascii text format makes you equally, if not, more social than those claimed overtalkative people, which unfortunately makes anyone judging others- a hypocryte.

      Honestly, What makes your form of dialogue here at Dream Views any more genuine/important?
      [/b]
      Maybe it's the fact that this is a forum about a specific topic, and therefore anyone who joins can be assumed to be interested in that topic and therefore conversing about said topic can be assumed to be interesting to said people. I don't recall signing up to be talked to by my coworkers about mundane topics such as the weather or how my day is going (often before it has even started).
      Originally posted by SolSkye@

      Sure, I agree that those questions we ask each other on a day-to-day basis are innane and pointless but they are an unfortunate requirement of the times.
      No, they aren't.

      <!--QuoteBegin-SolSkye

      Success is had not on being an overtly unique snowflake all the time but rather being that wolf in sheep's clothing, lying in wait. It's always better to be malleable to any situation and be complacent until the time dictates rather than let your real intentions be known too soon.
      So, in other words, don't talk too much and make your intentions known. Here, let me try one of my own; Success is not had by standing around idly pointing out the [obvious] weather conditions.

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      The difference is I havn't judged you, Professor Peach. I did a "long-winded" post because the hypocrisy was racing around the very idea of this thread, in my opinion. Dont you think, true silence would call for no interaction of any kind with anyone in the Digital or Actual world? Therefore, the lurkers are the truely quiet people, not you.

      You can sit and bitch until you are blue in the face about the small things in life that wont EVER change or you can accept those things for what they really are. In this case- Greetings and Social cues. Case closed...

      I never said I liked it either, but thats just life...

      As I said before... Shit, or get off the pot


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      Yep, I agree with you there. It is a fact of life and it seems like it's here to stay. Doesn't piss me off any less, though. I accept that people make small talk, but that doesn't mean I'm going to participate.

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      Originally posted by SolSkye+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SolSkye)</div>
      Mr. High and Mighty
      The difference is I havn't judged you[/b]
      I'm sorry? Are you implying that I have judged you? Please point me to the part of my post(s) where I have judged you.
      <!--QuoteBegin-SolSkye

      Professor Peach...
      Ahaha, \"Professor Peach\". I like that.

      Originally posted by SolSkye
      I did a \"long-winded\" post because the hypocrisy was racing around the very idea of this thread, in my opinion. Dont you think, true silence would call for no interaction of any kind with anyone in the Digital or Actual world?
      Yes, 100% silence would require no audible interaction. I never claimed that people should be 100% silent, only that many people talk way too much, especially when unnecessary or unwanted.
      Originally posted by SolSkye
      Therefore, the lurkers are the truely quiet people, not you.
      I never claimed to be a "truly quiet" person.

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      Originally posted by Mark75
      I'm sorry? Are you implying that I have judged you? Please point me to the part of my post(s) where I have judged you.
      You did have cynical undertone to your initial post, whether you intended it or not. If you cant see it, I dont feel it necessary to point out. Anyway, I'm done with it. No hard feelings


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      Originally posted by SolSkye


      Its called common courtesy (you know like holding a door for a stranger); by acknowledging someone elses presence and asking how they are doing or making a comment about the weather or some other trivial thing is a pretty common social response, especially if you are estranged the person and cant ask anything too personal. Im surprised you find it that odd, haven't you ever worked at a customer service industry job? its part of the job description to make small talk. If you expect to exist and thrive in today's interacting society you'd better get used to responding the proper way whether you like it or not. Shit or get off the pot, I always say. Sure you can be a so-called pioneer and come up with some quick retort to their pointless question but did you ever think that they knew it was a pointless question and were just being polite by today's societal rules? On top of that, the fact you ALL are on this forum conversing albeit in binary/ascii text format makes you equally, if not, more social than those claimed talkative people, which unfortunately makes anyone judging others- a hypocryte.

      Honestly, What makes your form of dialogue here at Dream Views any more genuine/important? Who knows? Maybe, if you actually took the time to answer peoples questions properly you could have a greater rapport with them and get to this same conversational level with people in the real world as well, not just binary and ascii.

      Sure, I agree that those questions we ask each other on a day-to-day basis are innane and pointless but they are an unfortunate requirement of the times.

      Success is not had by being an overtly unique snowflake all the time but rather by being that wolf in sheep's clothing, lying in wait. It's always better to be malleable to any situation and be complacent until the time dictates rather than let your real intentions be known too soon.
      good points, and i was aware of the seeming irony of communicating on dreamviews when i made my initial post. obviously the difference is my own subjective opinion of what is interesting. i feel the ideas discussed her are worth the time.
      i find this topic interesting, and so i am communicating. i feel interacting with you will benefit me (or perhaps the interaction will benefit you )

      i have worked customer service jobs, and was always refered to as 'friendly'.

      i have no problem with small chat, if it is intended to 'break the ice', and open the door to further, more meaningful dialogue. however, if someone is just talking to me because they are bored, and like hearing themself talk, i feel no need to respond. i also have little desire to communicate with people who don't think before they speak. my given example is quite clearly of someone who asks pointless, meaningless questions with no thought behind them.

      i should note that when i refuse to respond orally i always look the person straight in the eyes (mine are smiling). every so often someone will understand,laugh, and say something more meaningful. good, this is the kind of person i will become friends with.

      usually the rest of the time they look away with some form of negative emotion and i never hear from them again.

      or very rarely, they look embarrassed or shy, as if i am snubbing them, whereas i make an effort to make amends.


      being polite is mostly an empty social custom. you yourself said "Sure, I agree that those questions we ask each other on a day-to-day basis are innane and pointless but they are an unfortunate requirement of the times"

      politeness is no substitute for respect. i respect people enough not to indulge in empty conversation with them. when someone expects me to i feel they do not respect me, or themselves.

      we create 'the times'. i would rather they be based on meaningful communication and respect, than conventional drivel.

      that is why i am writing this, in case you felt i have no respect...


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      geez, doesn't take long for a thread around here to go down the debate toilet

      guess I'll rephrase some of what I said for the sake of peace

      Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
      people who are too quiet suck because they expect people to read their minds to meet their needs
      I was refering to people who are afraid of confrontation, so they expect people to meet their needs by some kind of magic, rather than expressing them with words. Granted, if they show it in their expression that something is wrong, and someone asks, isn't it fair that they at least communicate it somehow? If they want their needs met, that is.

      I feel that human beings are at a point now where it is beneficial in a relationship to communicate feelings and needs with words. Animals use sounds and scents and other instinctual behavior to get their points across, but we have the ability of speech. We should use it and see where it goes, instead of fearing what other people think if we speak. I guess that's what it boils down to: the 'quiet people' I'm refering to are the ones that are AFRAID to speak, therefore never get their needs appropriately met. The ones who CHOOSE quiet sometimes (or all the time) are just fine, so long as their loved ones aren't suffering for it.

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      Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
      geez, doesn't take long for a thread around here to go down the debate toilet

      guess I'll rephrase some of what I said for the sake of peace


      I was refering to people who are afraid of confrontation, so they expect people to meet their needs by some kind of magic, rather than expressing them with words. Granted, if they show it in their expression that something is wrong, and someone asks, isn't it fair that they at least communicate it somehow? If they want their needs met, that is.

      I feel that human beings are at a point now where it is beneficial in a relationship to communicate feelings and needs with words. Animals use sounds and scents and other instinctual behavior to get their points across, but we have the ability of speech. We should use it and see where it goes, instead of fearing what other people think if we speak. I guess that's what it boils down to: the 'quiet people' I'm refering to are the ones that are AFRAID to speak, therefore never get their needs appropriately met. The ones who CHOOSE quiet sometimes (or all the time) are just fine, so long as their loved ones aren't suffering for it.
      Take it from a guy whos said alot of stupid stuff in his life, some people don't want to be quit they just can't find anything good to say, so ya I'd be the type of guy that used to expect people to come to me, so I had to learn how to think before I speak. 8)

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      Originally posted by R.Carter
      I never shut the fuck up. 75% is worth hearing ( so I've been told )
      20% is trivial and 5% is usually the kind of shit that makes people want
      to smack me silly. Not like I give a fuck, most times I agree.
      I would have to say my percentages are 5% worth hearing and 95% trivial. However, I do my best to make the trivial entertaining. ~
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      Originally posted by LucidDreamGod+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LucidDreamGod)</div>
      Take it from a guy whos said alot of stupid stuff in his life, some people don't want to be quit they just can't find anything good to say, so ya I'd be the type of guy that used to expect people to come to me, so I had to learn how to think before I speak. 8)[/b]
      fair enough

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      Originally posted by Kaniaz
      Quite people usually have nothing to say because they think slower. Loudmouthed bitches might have irritating thoughts, but at least they're thinking. Or something.

      Yeah that was the best I could come up with to defend my overinflated humongous ego. Watch out or it might hit you.

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      I reckon quiet people generally think about what they are going to say BEFORE they actually say it , and as such sometimes they wont say something because they decide against it for whatever reason . I am a quiet person IRL , but i find that the internet is a good tool to use to allow you to express your opinions without worrying about what others will think . Cos i dont care if someone halfway around the world thinks im wrong about something , whereas if im talking to someone IRL i may have reservations about saying certain things .

      Compare that to an 'extrovert' who is saying whatever comes into their mind and worries aobut the consequences later , i dont think quietness has anything to do with people being simple minded or slow but more to do with their character , and how their mind works . They care more about how people see them and as such refrain from just saying the first thing that comes into their head .

      Those are my thoughts on the subject , though there may be other reasons why certain people are quiet and others not so . Maybe also bad life experiences as a young child could make the person very insecure and therefore they may not speak very often .
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