Thread: Do you agree with me when I say this is slightly unfair?

Guerilla, neither of us claimed that men were superior except for one picture which was clearly a joke by the German.

Otherwise; the rest of our points are entirely valid about women's attraction to what you woud call assholes and their natural want of the alpha male rather than "love" or nice guys.


So the majority of your responses are completely unfounded.

Who's the German?

Guerilla, you said that when men have many sexual partners it is considered good.

That is completely not true. Where do you get this information?

Originally Posted by Omicron

Guerilla, neither of us claimed that men were superior except for one picture which was clearly a joke by the German.

Otherwise; the rest of our points are entirely valid about women's attraction to what you woud call assholes and their natural want of the alpha male rather than "love" or nice guys.


So the majority of your responses are completely unfounded.

well next time, realise that on the internet there is no way to detect sarcasm, and my responses were not unfounded.

Usually, when arrogant guys post pictures of a man with a > to a woman, a bell goes off in my head saying "sexist"

Originally Posted by Omicron

In all honesty, on at least a subconscious level, all women want men to be assholes to them. Although a women will say she wants a nice guy, she would cheat on him in seconds for a complete asshole who doesn't care a bit for her. The point is this is how we are made, and you have to accept that the romantic ideas really have no application in reality, on a fundamental and primitive level.

amen brother!

Originally Posted by kingofclutch

Guerilla, you said that when men have many sexual partners it is considered good.

That is completely not true. Where do you get this information?

its common knowledge, atleast in america

most men ive come across brag about how many girls theyve slept with.

their considered 'pimps' as in, they get alot of action. and most guys praise guys who get alot of action, proving that men having many partners, is considered a manly, and good thing.

what planet do you live on?


Now when a woman has many men, she's labeled a slut


where's the fairness in that?





where have you been for the past century?

Originally Posted by guerilla

well next time, realise that on the internet there is no way to detect sarcasm, and my responses were not unfounded.

Usually, when arrogant guys post pictures of a man with a > to a woman, a bell goes off in my head saying "sexist"

But when that is combined with "/thread" and we know from previously seeing his posts that he is intelligent, then it actually makes more sense to assume a joke.

Anyway this is silly bickering. enough.

I can see your point, but you have only seen one side of the story so its very easy to see why you might feel the way you do. You are looking at these guy's through the same glasses as the women they scorned and you know how the saying goes 'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.'

Women lie, they cheat, they manipulate...they just get away with it more often. There are just as many bitches as their are bastards out there.

Originally Posted by guerilla

The general idea i've come to realise, is that everyone but me and JD in this thread SO FAR, are completely utterly immature and arrogant, men aren't better then women, in fact, i believe women are superior.

Neither gender is 'superior' to the other outright and if you are going to say women are superior to men, you are no better than someone saying a man is superior.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Who bear's the children that determines the future of our ENTIRE RACE?

WOMEN

You're right, they do bear the children but without a man they couldn't do that. Thus both sex's are required for the future of the entire race to be anything but extinction.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Who does all the majority of the house work?

WOMEN

Are you still living in the 1950's? Sorry, but no. Men can do house work just as easily and these days I see a man doing it just as often as the woman. Which ever one puts in less time at a job can take care of most of the house, or it can be divided equally.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Who do the kids go running to when their upset?

their mom, a WOMAN

Not always, good job with the blanket statements.

Originally Posted by guerilla

lets see, what do married men do in a relationship:

They watch sports, eat food, sit on their lazy asses, and expect everything to be done for them by their wife.

typical, stupid, lazy men.

You should really get out and meet more men, because your opinion of them is rather horrible and misguided as it is.

Originally Posted by guerilla

its common knowledge, atleast in america

most men ive come across brag about how many girls theyve slept with.

their considered 'pimps' as in, they get alot of action.


Now when a woman has many men, she's labeled a slut




where have you been for the past century?

Well, I thought you meant at one time. That is what people were talking about.

Originally Posted by kingofclutch

Guerilla, you said that when men have many sexual partners it is considered good.

That is completely not true. Where do you get this information?

Actually it is true.
To most women, this is a sign of attractiveness because it shows that the male in question is capable of attracting other females as well. This is basic sexual selection based on social hierarchy.

And well, as for evidence... real life should provide evidence, does it not?

Originally Posted by Korittke

Actually it is true.
To most women, this is a sign of attractiveness because it shows that the male in question is capable of attracting other females as well. This is basic sexual selection based on social hierarchy.

And well, as for evidence... real life should provide evidence, does it not?

Truth.


Although if you ask an average woman she will make it clear hates such behaviour. She may even believe this on a conscious level. But as far as her animalistic attractions go, and her subconscious mind goes, these men ooze sex appeal. This is just natural sexual hierarchy and appeal for the survival of the species.

Originally Posted by Daeva

I can see your point, but you have only seen one side of the story so its very easy to see why you might feel the way you do. You are looking at these guy's through the same glasses as the women they scorned and you know how the saying goes 'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.'


You should really get out and meet more men, because your opinion of them is rather horrible and misguided as it is.

You're probably right, haven't met many nice men in my life, or nice women, seems to me i keep meeting mean people.

maybe i should vouch for gay guy friends instead of straight guy friends, or good girl-friends


but yea what i posted, let me clarify

I DO NOT THINK that ALL men are that way

had to clarify that.

my father is your typical alphasshole male :cough: alpha....maybe thats why my views on most straight guys is so, cynical?

and my mother is wonderful, maybe thats why my views of all women is like, goddesses?

wow, i think that's EXACTLY what's my problem

Originally Posted by guerilla

You're probably right, haven't met many nice men in my life, or nice women, seems to me i keep meeting mean people.

maybe i should vouch for gay guy friends instead of straight guy friends

When a disproportionate amount of people one meets seem to be nasty; and no-one else seems to have the same problem, one should stop asking why people are nasty, but start asking why they are nasty to you.

Originally Posted by Omicron

Truth.


Although if you ask an average woman she will make it clear hates such behaviour. She may even believe this on a conscious level. But as far as her animalistic attractions go, and her subconscious mind goes, these men ooze sex appeal. This is just natural sexual hierarchy and appeal for the survival of the species.

I can agree with that.

Also to the statement that Guerrila said that men do nothing in a relationship, who gets most of the money in the relationship?
Who protects the family?
Who buys most of the stuff for the family?

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

I can agree with that.

And so this leads nicely to the solution to your original question. Although outwardly and socially this behaviour of males seems horrible, and I'm inclined to agree in some cases; the men enjoy and do it naturally, and the females like it naturally, because it is how we as animals naturally work. And so although it may seem bad, it is in fact neccesary, and inevitable, but also the biggest victim is you, the observer; you probably are more distressed than the women subjected to it.

Originally Posted by kingofclutch

Also to the statement that Guerrila said that men do nothing in a relationship, who gets most of the money in the relationship?
Who protects the family?
Who buys most of the stuff for the family?

okay you've got a good point there, but now a days more and more women are supporting the family too silly

Originally Posted by Omicron

When a disproportionate amount of people one meets seem to be nasty; and no-one else seems to have the same problem, one should stop asking why people are nasty, but start asking why they are nasty to you.

because im too sensitive? im too nice myself? i dont freakin know why so many have bullied me in the past, or bossed me around, or treated me like a walking rug.


anyways, well alot of these mean people actually niced up eventually after getting to know me, and stopped being so mean.


I have a way with people really, if I can't make them smile, SOMETHING is wrong with them, my internet personality is sorta different from my real personal self, I may say irrational things at times online and things which make no sense...

expect that from me

I just like observing things, it's a fact that's not for me, I know.

Originally Posted by guerilla

anyways, well alot of these mean people actually niced up eventually after getting to know me, and stopped being so mean.

In that case work on your first impressions.

Well in my opinion some of the stuff he said was true, but knowing my memory I've forgotten what they were.

Originally Posted by Omicron

In that case work on your first impressions.

Yea maybe, I'm a nervous first impression person, especially around attractive guys or girls.

just before as I was walking out of my companies office to the main building area this nice cute guy smiles at me and like sorta stares me down and i blushed so bad and nearly hit the wall walking away out of sheer nervousness and attraction.

meh i think women have more power over men. They can twist them to their will!

Why is it that when in town, i see the guy carrying the bags and generally pretty bored of the shopping( fool..).( in fact last weekend when i was shoe shopping with some friends, while browsing, browsing and not buying must piss people off.. anyway!! I saw a guy sitting at one of those places you try on shoes with his girlfriend two isles away, he was sitting with his hands on his knees, at the point of tears. Seriously it was a sad site, you could see how damn bored he was, poor guy.. )

anyway also people are right about bitching, GIRLS BITCH, GIRLS EXAGGERATE. Trust me you have to get that into your head, the girls you talk to on MSN may be moaning about how mean boys are and stuff, they are probably just a little pissed that their boyfriend hasn't texted them in three days or he never talks enough( I've heard it all)

Also about the mean guy and good guy. That really depends on the girls personal [reference. Just like some guys may love sluts, other may love intelligent girls etc. Generally at younger ages more girls may talk about the "bad boy" and how hot and great he is. However you'll see those relationships can be rather short and end badly, generally with a very annoyed girl because surprise surprise, he wasn't very nice, he always looked at other girls, in the end he just didn't care and cheated.

Hmm, I agree. There's a good point, loads of people generally are trying (and failing) to get relationships young when it usually ends in tears. Nicely said there Cuddley.

Originally Posted by Korittke

But: There's also an evolutionary aspect, considering that alpha males get multiple females per default.

That's not cultural, it's genetic.

WHAT. Yeah maybe if you're a monkey or a wild cat. Humans have different rules! You will not survive in this society if you actually hold that mentality. Honestly, WHAT is the point of wasting your time thinking like THAT?


(And I totally didn't read any responses after that one, so sorry if it's been addressed.)


Oh and about the cheating thing, yeah, as far as I know, both sexes do it about equally. Shame on them all.

ALSO, adult relationships are generally quite different from adolescent ones, so if you see a lot of crap going on, don't give up hope. There is a brighter side!