Thread: Aliens...

Any cultural clash ends in disaster... Look at human history.

Space exploration isn't necessarily about 'finding aliens'. It's scientific discovery of the universe, of course we should spend money on it.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

Any cultural clash ends in disaster... Look at human history.

Yeah. I mean, look at the British Empire in India. Abolishing native customs like burning widows with their dead husbands, or executing people by elephant stomp. Introducing law and order, a centralisation of power, beginning the abolition of the ridiculously unfair caste system, creating a unified India with the basis of industry (the railways, for example) that has allowed them to thrive in the modern era, even after gaining independence (non-violently, Americans pay attention).
Bastards ruined India.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

Space exploration isn't necessarily about 'finding aliens'. It's scientific discovery of the universe, of course we should spend money on it.

I was not talking about that... Only the searching for aliens...

And you were saying we shouldn't do it because they might be hostile and invade Earth and kill us all, yes?

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

And you were saying we shouldn't do it because they might be hostile and invade Earth and kill us all, yes?

No, because it's a waist of money!

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

Space exploration isn't necessarily about 'finding aliens'. It's scientific discovery of the universe, of course we should spend money on it.



Yeah. I mean, look at the British Empire in India. Abolishing native customs like burning widows with their dead husbands, or executing people by elephant stomp. Introducing law and order, a centralisation of power, beginning the abolition of the ridiculously unfair caste system, creating a unified India with the basis of industry (the railways, for example) that has allowed them to thrive in the modern era, even after gaining independence (non-violently, Americans pay attention).
Bastards ruined India.

White and blacks, Christians and Muslims, Nazi regime, and the best example would be the extermination of Native Americans.

If aliens came here they must have superior intelligence to us. And may treat us like we treat animals. Although I think that aliens would go crazy for our nuclear bomb.

May. This is entirely speculation. And we're going to have a fundementally different subjective outlook to them. The entire history of humanity, its evolution both biologically and socially, wouldn't be there.

I agree that if aliens come to us, reason suggests they will be technologically superior - at the very least in the field of space travel.

To then make the jump to them 'treating us like animals' is somewhat extreme, and in no way a good enough reason to stop trying to communicate with them - for the vague chance they exist. If we don't try to find them, we're essentially giving up any scientific discovery in that field.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

May. This is entirely speculation. And we're going to have a fundementally different subjective outlook to them. The entire history of humanity, its evolution both biologically and socially, wouldn't be there.

I agree that if aliens come to us, reason suggests they will be technologically superior - at the very least in the field of space travel.

To then make the jump to them 'treating us like animals' is somewhat extreme, and in no way a good enough reason to stop trying to communicate with them - for the vague chance they exist. If we don't try to find them, we're essentially giving up any scientific discovery in that field.

Well they would only come here for technological ideas, or land, I don't really see what else. Also I think humans on there part would treat them like animals. What would organized religions say? They are not children of God, blah blah blah. Same thing that happened to Native Americans. I think we would be ready to coincide with aliens when we are ready to coincide with ourselves. Which might be the reason aliens aren't exposing themselves to let our enter their galactic federation.

Again, they have an entirely different perspecive and subjectivity to us. I can't assert that they would 'only want land or technological ideas'.

The Native American issue isn't a good example unless the aliens are colonating the Earth. The whole cultural clash between the settlers and the natives was largely exacerbated to the extent it reached because it was a constantly rising influx of newcomers who all wanted land and who all wanted prosperity.

I think you're getting somewhat fixated on one possibility, that they arrive and are essentially humans with green skin.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

Again, they have an entirely different perspecive and subjectivity to us. I can't assert that they would 'only want land or technological ideas'.

The Native American issue isn't a good example unless the aliens are colonating the Earth. The whole cultural clash between the settlers and the natives was largely exacerbated to the extent it reached because it was a constantly rising influx of newcomers who all wanted land and who all wanted prosperity.

I think you're getting somewhat fixated on one possibility, that they arrive and are essentially humans with green skin.

If they look anything apart from humans, it would have the same affect. Imagine if they tell us that they created us, and etc. It would cause chaos. I don't see the need of contacting aliens. It only highers the probability of something wrong happening. What about the issue with Africans? They were enslaved because they looked different and were looked down upon because of their lack of technology. An alien would come here not to make friends but for something of their benefit. If they are that different than biological life on earth, we cannot be compatible.