Thread: LSD Inventor Dead at 102

well it's time i track some down! love the stuff. i have never had a "bad trip". If anything the drug seems to clear my mind. through it the world seems perfectly articulated.

Originally Posted by StephenT

Don't worry, I've done tons of research. Read nearly every page on Erowid, know people who've done it, etc.

I have the mind for it, and I'll be very cautious. I always am with things like it.

I'll be sure to have fun, though.

I want to add that you need to avoid the Hell out of conversations with people who are not tripping and who are not your close friends. I have on two occasions been in groups that included drunk retards while I was tripping, and too many of those drunk retards just did not get the fucking point that I was tripping. Drunk idiots who have never done acid or who have done acid and still don't get what it is about (because they think you are supposed to go to techno bars and twirl glow sticks and do nothing in the way of philosophical advancement) will talk to you like you are just another drunk person and want to argue with you about who rides in the front seat and why you don't want to go hang out at the nearest bar full of dumb ass drunk rednecks. It is unbelievable. I still want to kill somebody who wouldn't shut the fuck up about something really stupid on the beach ten years ago.

Also, LSD can leave you loopy and/or depressed and/or an insomniac for weeks after you do it. It seems like it rarely does that to people, but I know it does it to me and a few others I know. Prozac snaps me out of it. Remember to talk to a psychiatrist after you trip if you need to.

I have never tried LSD..I've always been too scared or nervous..

But maybe now..I'll give it a try...And perhaps..live forever ..mwhahaha

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Also, LSD can leave you loopy and/or depressed and/or an insomniac for weeks after you do it. It seems like it rarely does that to people, but I know it does it to me and a few others I know. Prozac snaps me out of it. Remember to talk to a psychiatrist after you trip if you need to.

That fact alone is enough to deter me from doing acid. Sounds like if you aren't careful, that shit can fuck with your mind.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

That fact alone is enough to deter me from doing acid. Sounds like if you aren't careful, that shit can fuck with your mind.

Yeah, it can. I always feel like I should mention that when I talk about LSD. Also, people who have any form of psychosis, such as schizophrenia, in their family histories should never do LSD. It has the potential of bringing on a psychotic episode. It is not lethal or addictive in its pure form, but it does have its negative issues.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

That fact alone is enough to deter me from doing acid. Sounds like if you aren't careful, that shit can fuck with your mind.

But the positives far outweigh the negatives, IMO.

But like UM said, be careful, respect her and take the necessary steps to ensure a safe trip.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

That fact alone is enough to deter me from doing acid. Sounds like if you aren't careful, that shit can fuck with your mind.

He said it can become loopy/depressed/insomniac, not that it will happen every time, or to every person.

For instance, every time I've dropped acid so far I haven't had any of this. I wake up the next morning feeling refreshed (mentally + physically).

PS. Going downtown tomorrow after school to pick up 25 hits for myself.

Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed

He said it can become loopy/depressed/insomniac, not that it will happen every time, or to every person.

For instance, every time I've dropped acid so far I haven't had any of this. I wake up the next morning feeling refreshed (mentally + physically).

PS. Going downtown tomorrow after school to pick up 25 hits for myself.

Word, I have an amazing week or so after, my after high is like the complete opposite of what UM said.



(And pick me up some while you're there lol... it's so dry up here )

It's weird, my after high is kinda just like the way I feel everyday. Which either means I'm constantly feeling that way or the acid just completely disappears overnight.

Oh, and I'll be happy to pick you up some... another 25?

Its amazing how easily the two threads on this subject managed to bypass the no drug conversation rules simply by starting out being about Hoffman's death.

I didn't doubt it for a second.

Shiva hemp.

Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed

Oh, and I'll be happy to pick you up some... another 25?

Shit, I'd be happy with 5.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Its amazing how easily the two threads on this subject managed to bypass the no drug conversation rules simply by starting out being about Hoffman's death.

?? I didn't know such a rule existed.

It still might be wise to refrain from statements like, "I, User X, having provided more than adequate information to locate and identify me, am proceeding to a location of type Y in my known geographical range to obtain a specified quantity of substance Z." 9 times out of 10 it will vanish down the series of tubes, but the other 1 in 10 can fuck you up.

Oh well.

My celebration of Albert Hoffman is a little late, but here's to you big guy.

I'd rather do mushrooms than acid. From what I've heard, there are pretty much no side effects other than a possible bad trip.

Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed

Oh well.

My celebration of Albert Hoffman is a little late, but here's to you big guy.

Sending good vibes for an enlightened trip your way bro.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

I'd rather do mushrooms than acid. From what I've heard, there are pretty much no side effects other than a possible bad trip.

Whoever told you there were "pretty much no side effects" is either a liar or they have no experience at all with magic mushrooms.
Other than the fact that you have no way of telling whether the mushrooms you just bought from that guy actually contain psilocin or psilocybin, or if they're not poisonous.
You can die from eating a bad mushroom, the only thing that'll happen if you eat bad acid is you'll be pissed you just lost that money.
Plus mushrooms make you physically ill every time(varying degrees for each person) and you can get chills and sweats.

LSD is a much safer drug that mushrooms when you add up all the possibilities.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

I'd rather do mushrooms than acid. From what I've heard, there are pretty much no side effects other than a possible bad trip.

Mushrooms are far cleaner than acid, at least in my experience. The times I did mushrooms, I never felt sick at all, and I did not have emotional or clarity issues after more than a day later. I just still felt like I was tripping a little bit the next day when I smoked weed. Acid, on the other hand, is a dirty drug with a negative edge and other bad side effects, and it can leave your brain doing some weird stuff weeks later in some cases. I don't think I am ever going to do acid again. I have fun on it, but there is just too much negative baggage that comes with it, in my case.

The same warnings I gave about LSD in the other thread, in terms of how to deal with the experience, also apply to mushrooms. If you do them (I will not encourage it or discourage it.), you have got to make sure you are in a positive environment. Stay far away from idiots you cannot trust to completely respect the fact that you are tripping. You would be amazed at how some people are just not capable of getting it. Also, don't do it at a time and place where somebody might find you to discuss serious business.

(for medical information purposes only)

Originally Posted by Elis D.

Whoever told you there were "pretty much no side effects" is either a liar or they have no experience at all with magic mushrooms.

Other than the fact that you have no way of telling whether the mushrooms you just bought from that guy actually contain psilocin or psilocybin, or if they're not poisonous.

You can die from eating a bad mushroom, the only thing that'll happen if you eat bad acid is you'll be pissed you just lost that money.

Plus mushrooms make you physically ill every time(varying degrees for each person) and you can get chills and sweats.

LSD is a much safer drug that mushrooms when you add up all the possibilities.

It is true that there are imitation mushrooms that are poisonous. I am only talking about the real thing. I have never felt physically ill from them, but I have heard others say that they have. I see a possiblity that they took the poisonous kind, but I am not sure. I live where the psilocybin mushrooms grow, and I know how to pick them. Nobody has ever gotten sick while doing mushrooms with me. I guess that does not prove nobody ever could.

Originally Posted by UM

Acid, on the other hand, is a dirty drug with a negative edge and other bad side effects, and it can leave your brain doing some weird stuff weeks later in some cases. I don't think I am ever going to do acid again. I have fun on it, but there is just too much negative baggage that comes with it, in my case.

What makes LSD so much worse than a poison? Don't associate acid as a dirty drug just because you are affected negatively by it.

I'm sure many would agree that acid feels a lot cleaner than mushrooms (scientifically speaking, of course).

Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed

What makes LSD so much worse than a poison? Don't associate acid as a dirty drug just because you are affected negatively by it.

I'm sure many would agree that acid feels a lot cleaner than mushrooms (scientifically speaking, of course).

I kept specifying that I was talking about my particular case and the cases I have seen. I also never said LSD is worse than poison. What you talking about, Willis?

The way you talked about it made you seem like you were claiming fact. Especially since you compare it to the mushrooms. It was like a subprint to the whole spiel. It should be:

Originally Posted by UM

Acid, on the other hand, can be a dirty drug with a negative edge and other bad side effects, and it can leave your brain doing some weird stuff weeks later in some cases. I don't think I am ever going to do acid again. I have fun on it, but there is just too much negative baggage that comes with it, in my case.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I want to add that you need to avoid the Hell out of conversations with people who are not tripping and who are not your close friends. I have on two occasions been in groups that included drunk retards while I was tripping, and too many of those drunk retards just did not get the fucking point that I was tripping. Drunk idiots who have never done acid or who have done acid and still don't get what it is about (because they think you are supposed to go to techno bars and twirl glow sticks and do nothing in the way of philosophical advancement) will talk to you like you are just another drunk person and want to argue with you about who rides in the front seat and why you don't want to go hang out at the nearest bar full of dumb ass drunk rednecks. It is unbelievable. I still want to kill somebody who wouldn't shut the fuck up about something really stupid on the beach ten years ago.

Also, LSD can leave you loopy and/or depressed and/or an insomniac for weeks after you do it. It seems like it rarely does that to people, but I know it does it to me and a few others I know. Prozac snaps me out of it. Remember to talk to a psychiatrist after you trip if you need to.

Thanks, I'll definitely keep that in mind.

If I do trip before college, it would be me and one or two friends in a seclusive place. I have it all for a great set and setting, and minimal if any interaction with things that can mess it up (like people).

If I trip in college (which I will), depending on which college I go to, I found the best place.

Also, thanks for the tip about depression and all. I'll definitely consider that if it happens to me!

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Also, people who have any form of psychosis, such as schizophrenia, in their family histories should never do LSD. It has the potential of bringing on a psychotic episode. It is not lethal or addictive in its pure form, but it does have its negative issues.

I won't go Syd Barrett. No history of any insanity... if you met my Dad and uncles, you might think they are, though.

Mushrooms are well safer than LSD. I have never had a bad trip on shrooms.. on acid I have had 2 really hardcore ones.

Mushrooms are natural for a start.

You can buy them online. Or even grow your own. Dr Hermans in England was an amazing shop. They sold loads of different types. If you aint done LSD I sugest you do shrooms first. Just so you know what to expect on some level.

Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed

The way you talked about it made you seem like you were claiming fact. Especially since you compare it to the mushrooms. It was like a subprint to the whole spiel. It should be:

I said this...

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I don't think I am ever going to do acid again. I have fun on it, but there is just too much negative baggage that comes with it, in my case.

I want to be clear about this. Both drugs have had people reporting rotten stuff, but in my personal experience, mushrooms are much better, and the long lasting, megahorror bad trip stories I have heard have never involved mushrooms. I have heard people tell me about bad trips on mushrooms and even thinking for brief periods that they were going to die (mixed in with moments of major fun), but the bad acid trip stories I have heard have been things like, "I stayed all the way under my covers in the fetal postion for six hours, completely accepting the fact that I was going to die," and, "I was terrified by the demons I saw at the concert, and that is when I became a Christian." I am only reporting what I have experienced myself and what friends have told me.

I also want to stress again that I am only talking about the real thing. There are mushrooms that look pretty close to being psilocybin but are not. They can make you really, really sick. Everybody make sure you know for a fact you are not eating those.


Stephen, be careful.