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      Quote Originally Posted by Lord Toaster View Post
      There's not physical addiction to marijuana like there is to nicotine or heroin, but users can get very dependant on the high that you get, until they can't do without it.

      Is that not what I said?

      Quote Originally Posted by Adam
      You may feel a dependency on it but Marijuana is not addictive,

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      Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
      In a lot of situations, people who smoke pot are simply self-medicating for severe anxiety or depression, they just don't realise it.
      Yeah, you clarified what I meant by the 'wrong reasons'. Addiction usually has roots. For instance, if you're using any sort of drug (alcohol, weed, pills) as an escape method it will always come back to bite you. Always.


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      ok

      Ok them last two posts were good yes i do mix it with bacca and i smoke cigs at work to keep me feeling better but i also have tried to not smoke pot and just tobacco and i still get got and angry but some people i know in real life said its in my mind because if im at work all day (which i am now) and if i know i have weed at home (which i have) its not so bad but if i was sat here knowing that i dont have any and cant get any all i think about is getting some and to the over guy yeah its mabie not addictive but after smoking for 5 years on a daily basis your dependant on it. If people in my family and friends seen me when i havent had none all day i would be acting weird to them because im like anyone else when i have smoked its when i dont smoke i seen weird.
      If you cant understand what i just typed just tell me which bit and il try type it different.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
      Is that not what I said?
      You were saying that he's addicted to the nicotine, and only thinks he's addicted to the marijuana. I tried to say that he's mentally reliant on the marajuana (not the nicotine) to get him through the day.

      I thought you were putting it rather lightly when you said that marajuana is only mildly habit forming. It's still addictive, just mentally and not physically. It's a depressant, and can lead to paranoia and schizophrenia. Just saying, there are reasons that it's an illegal substance.

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      Cannabisman, although I can usually decipher your posts, most of the problem is that you use absoloutely no periods and that makes your post a huge, intimidating lump of text that seems to go so fast you feel you can hardly keep up.

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      Cannabisman although I can usually decipher your posts most of the problem is that you use absoloutely no periods and that makes your post a huge intimidating lump of text that seems to go so fast you feel you can hardly keep up.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lord Toaster
      It's a depressant, and can lead to paranoia and schizophrenia. Just saying, there are reasons that it's an illegal substance.
      Get your facts straight, kid.

      Alcohol is an inhibitor, and can lead to liver diseases and poor physical/emotional/mental health - there are reasons it's a legal substance. ... wait, what?

      Just because something is illegal doesn't mean there's something wrong with it. Oh, and just so you know, smoking weed doesn't lead to schizophrenia. Paranoia, sure, but schizo? Hahahah. Maybe if there's an underlying mental disease then it's possible for marijuana to flesh it out, but that's like anything really ("If it didn't happen now it would've happened later").


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      I first tasted alcohol in '99-'00 i have been drinking since , i mean every day , one day i would drink only a beer but the other day i would get totaly wasted and so on , from beer to vodka from vodka to cogniac (everything) , here in transilvania we have a spirit called SZILVA PALINKA it is very strong about 70%-75% alcohol i used to drink that as well (it is distilled from peaches) . I guess i will never put it aside completely , oh and cigarettes as well , i am working very hard to lay this one aside.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed View Post
      Get your facts straight, kid.

      .......
      The facts you quoted are straight. Here's a quote found from a google of 'marijuana schizophrenia' :

      Quote Originally Posted by About.com
      Last year, Netherlands researchers reviewed five studies and concluded that the use of marijuana (cannabis) approximately doubles the risk of developing schizophrenia.
      ... Link

      Wikipedia also says:
      Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
      cannabis use confers an overall twofold increase in the relative risk of later schizophrenia
      Link

      You were half right when you said that it would have happened sooner or later anyway... this appears to only affect people 'at risk' from schizophrenia, but it may cause the onset of the illness when it would otherwise never have emerged, and may worsen it if it is already present.

      And just for the record, I'm all for legalising marijuana. But it's not completely irrational that it's a class C illegal drug. It can mess with you badly if you do it too much.

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      I'm on neither side here but.... I think anyone can admit that the sources you are using are known for being unreliable.
      Besides surely weed has got to be better for you... they put formaldehyde in cigarettes not to mention thousands of other chemicals just as toxic

      Then think about the small fraction of the human population who have schizophrenia. Only a small part of that population were weed users.

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      This is going to sound so stupid, but please don't get the wrong idea.
      I'm totally, completely, dangerously obsessed with an online game or "virtual reality" called Habbo Hotel. It's a bit like sims or imvu but better than both of those. I say it's not a game because there's really no "point", no "mission" and there's no way you can "win". Virtual reality or 3D chat room is the best way I can describe it.

      Now, here is where you're probably going to write me off as a gaming nerd and completely skip the rest of this, but that's how I know it's an addiction and not just a personality thing.

      I've never been into gaming of any sort. Don't like game consoles, not even card games interest me all that much. I'm not a loner who relies on the internet for friendship.. on the contrary I have (well, used to.. this game is taking over my life) loads of friends and wherever I go people seem to like me but recently I prefer my online friends to real people 100%.

      I may describe myself as a bit of a dork in that I'm slightly clumsy and I like odd things, but I'm not a geek. I used to get straight As and I used to love doing math and even enjoyed studying, but only because I was born with a stupidly high IQ and so school was always easy for me, which left room for it to be enjoyable. Also I started school a year early and skipped 2 grades, so I was 4 in 2nd grade. Now, because of Habbo, I'm failing every one of my classes, and I'm risking having to put off university for a year and repeat the last year of school.

      I didn't think I had an addictive personality, but the first time I played this I made myself ill by not sleeping or eating for a week.

      My new friends are the only ones pointing little things out to me so I'm only now starting to realise it but I've noticed I usually prefer staying on Habbo to going out, I schedule my life around activities my online friends and I plan on Habbo, and I haven't been to school for more than a day or two a week for the last month or so.

      It's really becoming worse than it was 3 years ago but it's also becoming seriously uncontrollable.

      I don't know why I made this post so long, lol, I'd only intended to write the first paragraph but I've actually never admitted to any of these things out loud (or whatever you call this) before so it's quite.. liberating I suppose. You're probably not even reading this far, but it felt good to get it out there.

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