Thread: Dream views on youtube

Hmm, you've given me an idea.

I remember these. This was back when I was staff. That was good times.

EDIT: Wow. That staff video brings back memories. There's a lot of people I actually miss...

Damn. I feel old now.

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=51986

Originally Posted by oniman7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVM9C...eature=related

Lol and to think, Amaze nearly made staff a few months after making this video. Good times good times. He'd of been the Samuel L. Jackson of DV.

What do you mean, "almost" made staff? What are the requirements to make staff?

Originally Posted by oniman7

What do you mean, "almost" made staff? What are the requirements to make staff?

I was kidding, Amaze-O will never make staff. Though I am curious as to why you inquired. Are you wanting to make staff oniman?

Of course I am. I'm always looking to move higher on DreamViews and help out the people on the website. I just didn't want to ask flat out because then people might think I expected to right away, and that's not what I want.

I nominate myself for staff.
You all know I would make a great addition to the moderator team!
Right?

Damn, all these people who used to be staff. I THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST NORMAL MEMBERS!

There should be some sort of list or something.

Originally Posted by oniman7

'Course I am. I'm always looking to move higher on DreamViews and help out the website. I just didn't want to ask flat out because then people might think I expected to right away, and that's not what I want.

While there's no set in stone detailed list of pre-requisites one must accomplish before becoming a staff member...there are things you can do to put you in good standing to be considered worthy for the job.

1. Post more on-topic than off-topic.

This pretty much goes without saying. Posting in newbie zone and helping newbs is the primary duties for a DG. Help alleviate the staff's job a bit by doing this and you'll get noticed sooner than you think. I would stay away from pseudo-modding though...it'd probably do more harm than good. Also, you need to establish yourself on the board with the community first. Who knows you? Who?

2. Create helpful (tutorial-like) threads in on-topic.

Assist newbs and LD novices in any way that you can. Have them PM you if they'd like.

3. Mind your emotions.

Notice how all the staff seem well tempered? It's because they pretty much have to remain cordial to the community (even to assholes) to set an example and assist people as politely as possible. Look at how many members are currently online. Now look at how many guests are currently online. Though you may not have known it...they're browsing these threads quite a bit and if they see that a staff member acted an asshole back TO an asshole, that might be the deciding factor on whether they should join or not. How leader's conduct themselves speak volumes. Mind your emotions.

4. Get to know the current staff.

PM them, take an interest in what their likes and dislikes are. This is the most important step, if you forget everything else, remember this one. I say this because potentially new staff member candidates are discussed and voted on amongst the current staff in a private forum. If you're cool with one and the rest hate you...you're pretty much screwed. DO NOT take an interest in them for your own narcissistic and superficial reasons. Be genuinely interested in them. I'm friends with a lot of the staff because we shot the shit in chat a lot or because we have common interests on the boards and therefore chatted via PM or on the board about those interests. I don't do this because I want something (Note: I do not want to become staff), I do this because behind those bold colorful usernames, they're just people to me. My friends.

5. Drop hints (after you have a firm grip on the above steps) that you are wanting to become a staff member of dreamviews.

Do this by telling a staff member that your close to to keep a watch on an opening for you and have them support your candidacy for staff in the private forum etc. Be creative with it. There are many ways you can do this. The point is that noone will know what you want unless you first make it known what you want.

6. (Optional) Build real-time relationships by hanging in chat.

Chat is a great way to build relationships in real-time as opposed to "forum-time". The community will rally behind you if they think you are up to the job and adamantly care about their concerns.

Let me give you an example. MoS. MoS is well liked by pretty much everyone. He (unconsciously) worked at building great relationships with everyone pretty much via chat. MoS joined a few months before I did but believe it or not, everyone seemingly liked him when I got here. He's easy to get along with and a great friend at that. He was helpful to noobs and had nice contributory ideas for the forum. His actions didn't go unnoticed.

That's just one example. Xox and ClouD are just a few others (to name a few that I've personally witnessed become staff). Now with that being said...being on the staff isn't all you may think it's cracked up to be. I've seen several people get excited about making staff only to resign from it a few months later. Their reasons are their own but something I'm sure of is that the experience is different for everyone. The duties you did to get noticed now become required of you and if you aren't doing shit at all...that gets noticed to. Hm, speaking of which...anyone seen Wavefunction lately? ba dum bum! xD

From what I see, you're off to a good start oniman. I've seen you posting in on-topic and helping newbs out which is good, just keep doing what you're doing plus a little bit more and eventually that should get you what you want. Presupposing you haven't crossed the current staff in any way already .

Disclaimer: The above steps outlined are "opinions" intended to address some expectations of would-be staff members. Fulfilling the above steps does not guarantee staff promotion.

Christ Jeff. I can't believe you just wrote all that.


You guys are amusing. 8D

Originally Posted by Xox

Christ Jeff. I can't believe you just wrote all that.


You guys are amusing. 8D

I had some time on my hands.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

While there's no set in stone detailed list of pre-requisites one must accomplish before becoming a staff member...there are things you can do to put you in good standing to be considered worthy for the job.

1. Post more on-topic than off-topic.

This pretty much goes without saying. Posting in newbie zone and helping newbs is the primary duties for a DG. Help alleviate the staff's job a bit by doing this and you'll get noticed sooner than you think. I would stay away from pseudo-modding though...it'd probably do more harm than good. Also, you need to establish yourself on the board with the community first. Who knows you? Who?

2. Create helpful (tutorial-like) threads in on-topic.

Assist newbs and LD novices in any way that you can. Have them PM you if they'd like.

3. Mind your emotions.

Notice how all the staff seem well tempered? It's because they pretty much have to remain cordial to the community (even to assholes) to set an example and assist people as politely as possible. Look at how many members are currently online. Now look at how many guests are currently online. Though you may not have known it...they're browsing these threads quite a bit and if they see that a staff member acted an asshole back TO an asshole, that might be the deciding factor on whether they should join or not. How leader's conduct themselves speak volumes. Mind your emotions.

4. Get to know the current staff.

PM them, take an interest in what their likes and dislikes are. This is the most important step, if you forget everything else, remember this one. I say this because potentially new staff member candidates are discussed and voted on amongst the current staff in a private forum. If you're cool with one and the rest hate you...you're pretty much screwed. DO NOT take an interest in them for your own narcissistic and superficial reasons. Be genuinely interested in them. I'm friends with a lot of the staff because we shot the shit in chat a lot or because we have common interests on the boards and therefore chatted via PM or on the board about those interests. I don't do this because I want something (Note: I do not want to become staff), I do this because behind those bold colorful usernames, they're just people to me. My friends.

5. Drop hints (after you have a firm grip on the above steps) that you are wanting to become a staff member of dreams.

Do this by telling a staff member that your close to to keep a watch on an opening for you and have them support your candidacy for staff in the private forum etc. Be creative with it. There are many ways you can do this. The point is that noone will know what you want unless you first make it known what you want.

6. (Optional) Build real-time relationships by hanging in chat.

Chat is a great way to build relationships in real-time as opposed to "forum-time". The community will rally behind you if they think you are up to the job and adamantly care about their concerns.



That's just one example. Xox and ClouD are just a few others (to name a few that I've personally witnessed become staff). Now with that being said...being on the staff isn't all you may think it's cracked up to be. I've seen several people get excited about making staff only to resign from it a few months later. Their reasons are their own but something I'm sure of is that the experience is different for everyone. The duties you did to get noticed now become required of you and if you aren't doing shit at all...that gets noticed to. Hm, speaking of which...anyone seen Wavefunction lately? ba dum bum! xD

From what I see, you're off to a good start oniman. I've seen you posting in on-topic and helping newbs out which is good, just keep doing what you're doing plus a little bit more and eventually that should get you what you want. Presupposing you haven't crossed the current staff in any way already .

Disclaimer: The above steps outlined are "opinions" intended to address some expectations of would-be staff members. Fulfilling the above steps does not guarantee staff promotion.

I hate being staff, especially Admin, definitely not on a forum that I like being trollsy on.

Well, a couple of questions, so just hang with me, if you could.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Who knows you? Who?

I assume you mean staff members. In that case, I would say Ninja9578, Robot_Butler, Snowy Egypt, OpheliaBlue, and I've had contact with a couple others that I would consider to be positive. Did Delphinus used to be staff? I could have sworn he was.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

2. Create helpful (tutorial-like) threads in on-topic.

What if I was in the middle of trying to get a tutorial published? Ninja's supposed to tell me this weekend what I need to edit to get it published.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

being on the staff isn't all you may think it's cracked up to be. I've seen several people get excited about making staff only to resign from it a few months later.

Would I be correct in assuming some of them were excited mostly about the moderator powers they would receive? The reason I want to be a staff member is... well, several reasons. First of all, I like helping the people out on the forum (It's why I adopted three people) and I wouldn't mind having people come to me with questions. It clears up a lot of room on the forum and saves a lot of time on other people's sides. I think I'm a bit different from most people when it comes to wanting the responsibility for a reason. However, maybe you're right. Maybe I'll finally become a staff member and realize it's nothing like I thought. And even if I do end up resigning, nothing ventured, nothing gained, right? Anyways, thanks for taking the time to put in such a detailed post.

Back on topic, I got a reply from one "Exonic Plain" or something like that telling me "oniman, I'm coming to get you.". Not that it really bothers me, but I'm wondering if it's somebody from the website, and who it might be.

There are shortcuts to winning my favor... but you won't like them.

Well, what be they, then?

There's gotta be something else. Anything!

Originally Posted by DuB

Dub wants you to let him molester you.

Lols, I remember when I was almost staff. I would still be staff, because it would be fun, but I would be the Samuel L Jackson of DV, like Jeff said.

Originally Posted by oniman7

I assume you mean staff members. In that case, I would say Ninja9578, Robot_Butler, Snowy Egypt, OpheliaBlue, and I've had contact with a couple others that I would consider to be positive. Did Delphinus used to be staff? I could have sworn he was.

Yeah, he used to be on staff...albeit briefly.

Originally Posted by oniman7

What if I was in the middle of trying to get a tutorial published? Ninja's supposed to tell me this weekend what I need to edit to get it published.

Ninja's a great DG and an even better DG leader. So you're off to a terrific start. Especially if the community finds it very helpful...you'll gain a lot of ground with new members here.

Originally Posted by oniman7

Would I be correct in assuming some of them were excited mostly about the moderator powers they would receive

Perhaps. That very well might have some truth to it, though I can't be sure. In my own personal opinions, I'd just assume the duties required exceeded the time they initially thought they'd have to put into the forum. However, - this is just my opinion, there could be a myriad of reasons as to why new staff members prematurely resigned, but as I said earlier...their reasons are theirs.

Originally Posted by oniman7

The reason I want to be a staff member is... well, several reasons. First of all, I like helping the people out on the forum (It's why I adopted three people) and I wouldn't mind having people come to me with questions. It clears up a lot of room on the forum and saves a lot of time on other people's sides. I think I'm a bit different from most people when it comes to wanting the responsibility for a reason. However, maybe you're right. Maybe I'll finally become a staff member and realize it's nothing like I thought. And even if I do end up resigning, nothing ventured, nothing gained, right? Anyways, thanks for taking the time to put in such a detailed post.

Well like I said earlier, I casually visit on-topic every now and then (mostly to check for new Q's in my thread on the attaining lucidity forum) and I've seen you helping out quite a bit. You're off to a good start, so just keep at it.

Originally Posted by AmazeO XD

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=51986

http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=70479



If you want to be a dreamguide, basically post in the newbie zone welcoming people. This is all that's expected and required of dreamguides.

I vote to put Jeff's post in the Meta Forum sticky. Some good stuff there, man. And not just because you inflated my ego.

I always thought dreamviews was more of a communism or dicatorship. I didn't know we actually had a say in what went on. lol

Anyways, that's a good idea. However, then we might get a lot of people trying to become staff. I think it should be more hinted at, so that anybody who really wants to and thinks they can become good at it can find out how to become staff, without 10+ people trying to become staff everyday.

People shouldn't try to become staff just to be staff. If they really want to help the community, they can be active and help new members. And the people who are the most helpful/active can be offered the opportunity to become staff.