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      Can anyone tell me when you think the best time to take B6 is ? As ev said:

      Originally posted by Ev
      So far I dont know how to time it perfectly.
      After numerous experiments, it seem to work after 80 min or so for me...
      that is: if you hit your REM period, you have a very big chance of becoming lucid.
      Then wouldn't it be best to wake up after about 5 hours of sleep or so, and take b6, and then go to sleep again, since your REM periods are longer in the morning and atleast i personally seem to be more likely to have LD's in the morning. Or is the B6 active all through the night if you take it just before you go to bed ?
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      i take mine right b4 i go to bed with fish oil pills to help absorbition of the videmins and with other vitmans

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      can malatonin hurt you? is it natural like a vitamin? cuz i dont wanna take any unnatural pills. Not that ima hippy, but i dont wanna be a drugg-addict
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      Melatonin is one of the best things synthesized things you can put inside your bodyu. It helps set your natural sleep cycle..so youre not dependent on it to sleep and dont need to take it every night. Melatonin also doesnt "knock you out" like sleeping pills. It relaxes your body and makes your mind alert(good for dreaming ) Research it and you can find quite a list of the ways melatonin is good for you.

      I lopve melatonin...and Im no melatonin addict. Ive only taken it a maybe 7 times.
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      gday ppl i used to take a lot of b-6 aswell i think mines in 50mg tablets, it says 1 a day, and i took usually 2 a night every few nights when i was going to get a decent enough sleep, and i found it worked really well, but i also think its probably not good to take to many, although if its just a small overdose its not too bad because you can just urinate it out, or so ive heard, correct me if you konw better, but yeah im a b-6 supporter.

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      I've been taking 100mg per night for a week and i havn't seen any results whatsoever, i don't remember my dreams much more than i use to, and i've not had any more LD's because of them, and i don't want to up the dosage, 200mb seems a bit to much. But it's tempting just to see what happens, because at the moment, nothing is...
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      AWWWW I bought vitamin B-12
      "The world we inhabit is a world we habit-in"

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      Originally posted by Tron
      AWWWW I bought vitamin B-12
      Awww ... well I might be wrong but I think all of the B vitamin's (to a degree) help with dream recall, though it's B6 that works the most.

      And I just had to reply to this when I noticed your avatar/picture. It's FRANK!!!! That is so freaky I just watched that movie tonight for the first time. Awesome movie. I even had to do a reality check when I saw your avatar because it was just too weird having just watched it earlier tonight. Unfortunately I was awake. I think. Unless I'm just dreaming of typing this.
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      I don't think the vitamins do much. I think it is just that people are more confident when they take the pills thinking they really can with the help of the pills. It is just confidence that controls everything.
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      Originally posted by the beauty who sleeps+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the beauty who sleeps)</div>
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      AWWWW I bought vitamin B-12
      Awww ... well I might be wrong but I think all of the B vitamin's (to a degree) help with dream recall, though it's B6 that works the most.

      And I just had to reply to this when I noticed your avatar/picture. It's FRANK!!!! That is so freaky I just watched that movie tonight for the first time. Awesome movie. I even had to do a reality check when I saw your avatar because it was just too weird having just watched it earlier tonight. Unfortunately I was awake. I think. Unless I'm just dreaming of typing this.[/b]
      ahahah! Yah, it's probably my favourite movie of all time. "Why are you wearing that silly man suit?"
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      Originally posted by Tron
      ahahah! Yah, it's probably my favourite movie of all time. \"Why are you wearing that silly man suit?\"
      Yep, it was an awesome movie. The more I thought about it afterwards, the more complex it became! lol I'm getting the DVD next week so I can watch it again and again.
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      Originally posted by NebuliRaven
      B-6 totally works! It helps with recall as well as lucidity and clarity.
      You sure that it's not just the fact that you believe it to work like a charm? Selfsuggestion also seems to work for some people. There's also a term that medical professionals call placebo when it comes to pills and such. Has there been actual clinical testing in the area of B6, or is this all just hearsay from one person to another?
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      hey man, don't mess up the placebo's. its all i got!!!

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      Originally posted by voidofform
      hey man, don't mess up the placebo's. its all i got!!!
      Hehe, sorry mate. It really wasn't my intent =))
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      Tripping on vitamins

      When I was younger I took a lot of vitamins. Particularly B vitamins. I noticed whenever I took L-Phenylalanine, I would have cosmic color dreams often developing into lucids. It was during that time that I read about a new technique called Dream Spinning. With the technique, i had my first real controllable lucid dreams.

      For a long time after I couldn't do it anymore. I thought it was because I am getting older. But, I also stopped taking vitamins. Since then. it would happen spontaneously, but not with the same intensity or control.

      Just last night I happen to take a multi B vitamin and guess what. I had a spontaneous spin. Maybe because I am getting older, but I think the vitamins do make a difference.

      if i had to make a theory, i would say that dream spinning requires a lot more brain energy than normal dreaming. that would explain why its so hard to attain and why vitamin supplements help you get there and keep it there.

      anyway, i wouldnt recommend dosing. vitamin b i dont think is porblematic but i've heard some not so great things about L-Phen. all the same, i am enthusiatic about the experience and will give the vitamin B6 plus melatonin thing a try. if that doesnt work i will then add the L-Trip and or L-Phan and post my findings.

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      Re: vitamin B-6

      Originally posted by NebuliRaven
      I was told awhile ago that vitamin B-6 helps in dream recollection, so I went and bought some sublingual B-6, the kind that dissolves in your mouth and goes right into your bloodstream so you absorb it all right away. So I have been taking a tablet every night right as I am laying down to sleep and have noticed that I not only remember my dreams better but also that they are more clear and deeper than normal. Anyone else ever heard of B-6 and dreams? Personally they seem to work, give it a try and see what you think....

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      B-6 is also good in counteracting the deleterious effects of monosodium glutomate as it tends to aggrevate carpal tunnel syndrome. It's good stuff. But many nutritionists advise against an imbalanced taking of isolated B Vitamins, so perhaps it would be wise to take B-6 in conjunction with a full complex of B Vitamins. Also, many people complain that B Vitamins behave a bit like stimulants, and may impede sleep. So it might be good to either take them in the morning, or to take the B Vitamins along with a soporific supplement such as Melatonin.

      I once had a dream in which an Archetypical Character, something of a Wise Old Wizard, gave me a lecture on the benefits of B-6 in supporting the Body's Spiritual Energy System. Apparently the energy comes up the legs and Vitamin B-6 gives the nerves and energy channels a greater capacity to carry added energy without being burned up. He also pointed out another thing -- while some Gurus and Yoga Teachers recommend slowing down Energy Frequencies to very slow rates, for Higher Spiritual Awareness -- Theta and Beta States -- this Old Dream Wizard of mine warned that it was at these very Slow Rates of Vibration where the nerves and energy channels could be in the most danger, not just of being burned but of actually being vibrated back and forth severely enough to actually rupture and break, but if the Energy Frequency is increased just enough, then it all smooths out. The difference is as between jerking back and forth, and rotating evenly.

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      Any B-6 in food?
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      Recently purchased B-6

      I went to the pharmacy and picked up a bottle of 90 tablets, at 250mg a pill, plus 50 mg of Vitamine C.

      Is it best to take the pill before sleeping on a full stomach? Or is it best to take it during the day?
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      The placebo thing only matters if you're doing scientific studies. Is there any scientific study on B6? I think there was one about remembering dreams, but nothing on inducing lucidity. This does not mean B6 does not induce it sometimes, only that it isn't proven scientifically yet.
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      Originally posted by eyeofgames
      Any B-6 in food?
      I think bananas have it..but you'd have to eat loads...
      'all of the moments that already passed/
      try to go back and make them last.'

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      bananas contain some B6 and a lot of potassium they definitely have an effect on your dreams!

      250 mg of B6 is way too much. Try finding 20 or 50 mg tablets. take it after some sleep (about 3-6 hrs)

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      I'm 100% sure someone on this site wrote a list of all foods that contained "B-6".

      I used to take B-6 for about 2 months, i didnt see any major difference in my dreams.
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      Oh yeah, I completely forgot about one little fact I'm taking melatonin just about every night. The combination of B6 and melatonin alters your dreams.

      Ordinarily your pineal gland produces melatonin and you need a very small amount (maybe 500 ug) to fall asleep naturally. I dont know what happens when someone takes 3 mg or so.

      quote from wikipedia : "Additionally, it has been found that the pineal gland manufactures trace amounts of the psychedelic chemical dimethyltryptamine, or DMT. This endogeous chemical in the human brain is believed to play a role in dreaming and possibly near-death experiences and other mystical states. It has been suggested by the researcher Jace Callaway that DMT is connected with visual dreaming."


      it is very likely that B6, melatonin and trace amounts of DMT produced by pineal gland are connected. For example the excess of melatonin may be broken down and reused to create DMT.

      This might explain the alien quality of melatonin + B6 dreams

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      does melatonin help you sleep?
      i find since i've come back from america, my body clock is well and truly hammered, i suffered with insomnia before i left, but now it's a whole lot worse, to the point i go to sleep at 11pm Florida time, which is like four am here in england, and then wake up at 6am Florida time, which is like, gone 11 am English time. I really need to sort this out.
      'all of the moments that already passed/
      try to go back and make them last.'

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      I've been told by many pharmacists that the use of Melatonin deeply relaxes your body (and should be taken before you plan on sleeping), and will eventually put you into a deep sleep.
      I inquired about it before I bought Vitamin B6, and she told me that Melatonin is great with B6, but I still didn't purchase the melatonin because I don't want to overdue it too quick.
      Maybe in a couple months if I'm getting little results with the B6.
      I've taken them twice, the first night I had a really vivid dream that became lucid, but the moment I became lucid I woke up.
      The next night I don't recall having any dreams, and it's been about two weeks since then.
      So we'll see what happens.
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