Thread: No One Knows What Gaba Is?!?!?!

Hello to all!
P.S. Sorry for my English, I don't speak in it for a long time..
Please, tell me what should I buy to get maximum effect of relaxing and falling asleep? I mean GABA or Phenibut (beta-phenyl- gamma-aminobutyric acid, also spelled fenibut, originally known as phenigamma) is a derivative of the neurotransmitter GABA that crosses the blood-brain barrier) or Theanine (increasing the level of gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) production) or maybe Green Tea Extract (wich have theanine).
Thaanks for your attention.

Originally Posted by maybe

Hello to all!
P.S. Sorry for my English, I don't speak in it for a long time..
Please, tell me what should I buy to get maximum effect of relaxing and falling asleep? I mean GABA or Phenibut (beta-phenyl- gamma-aminobutyric acid, also spelled fenibut, originally known as phenigamma) is a derivative of the neurotransmitter GABA that crosses the blood-brain barrier) or Theanine (increasing the level of gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) production) or maybe Green Tea Extract (wich have theanine).
Thaanks for your attention.

Well, phenibut seems to be a lot more effective than pure GABA. With GABA you have to overdose massively since it does not really cross the BBB. With phenibut you experience slight effects with just 500 mg. With 1500 mg it really feels like having taken a spoon of Valium (diazepam) but the good thing is: you can still dream intensely.

The effects are said to wear off quickly (after a week of use or so). And it feels "too heavy" for me, personally I wouldn't drive a car the next day I have taken it. And it seems to ruin my erectile function. Sleep paralysis can be reached very quickly while on phenibut and go back to sleep is very simple but I think to get lucidity simultaneously, you need other stuff also.

If you search for something less heavy I would recommend l-theanine. It is completely without sideeffects for me and falling back to sleep even while on cholinergic supplements is very easy. It is the relaxing part of green tea and can be bought in capsule form also. You could also drink green tea, but it also has caffein in it..

lucidus, thank you for your information, it's very intresting
Today I bought Phenibut, I desided to try it first, cause it's very cheap and also I read that some people (wich don't know about LD) have LDs as a side effect!! But they eat it much more, I don't recommend to do it.
About erectile function, some people had it too, but some said that it became better..
About to drink green tea, I read that theanine is staying in leaves. You must boil it (with 127 degrees), if you want to get a theanine in your tea
If I like Phenibut and it helps me witn LD and sometime with insomnia after I'll try L-theaninen or Green Tea Extract, cause it will more naturally
If some people will interested my experience I will describe it.

Sure Maybe, let us know about your results with phenibut.

In the meantime, i've had another three nights of wbtb with gaba. No lucids unfortunately. It does make me sleep more and it does give me great, vivid dreams. So i guess it can help with lding. Will continu using it at least untill my jar of gaba is empty.

I'm going to give GABA one more chance. I took it last week, 5 pills at WBTB and recalled absolutely NOTHING for the next two nights. That may have been a fluke, so I'll give it another chance tonight.

Originally Posted by unseen wombat

I'm going to give GABA one more chance. I took it last week, 5 pills at WBTB and recalled absolutely NOTHING for the next two nights. That may have been a fluke, so I'll give it another chance tonight.

How many grams per pill? .75? or 1. Did you get the tingles. As I said since everyones system is different you have to go by personal tolerance and lucky enough its easy to find with GABA. If you get tingles you are at the right amount. Too much is depending on who you are. Same with too little.
Take it prior to bed time and see if that helps. When you WBTB your sleeping hormones should be higher than before. So it will still affect you at that time

Yeah, .75g. I took it last night, 8 pills this time. It gave me some strong tingles. It felt like my hands and face were on fire. I did get lucid at the end of my first dream after taking it. Short, but that was my fault for freaking out probably. It was clear and realistic. I got it by spontaneously remembering to do a reality check. I should mention that I also used autosuggestion last night saying "I will remember to do a reality check in my dream." It was the first time I've used that phrase. Still, I don't want to detract from the GABA. It probably did have an effect.

Anyway, the problem was that after I woke up, 2:40 after taking it, I was so nauseous, I had to stay home from work today. I went back to bed and had no recall, but when I woke at about 10:30, about 6 hours after taking the GABA, I was much better. For me, I have to make sure that I have enough time to stay in bed until the effects wear off.

I'm kind of afraid to use it again though. If I do, I'll use fewer pills, or perhaps I will take it before bed.

So what about the body building part? Is it really effective? And how much of an advantage does it give you?

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Originally Posted by unseen wombat

Yeah, .75g. I took it last night, 8 pills this time. It gave me some strong tingles. It felt like my hands and face were on fire. I did get lucid at the end of my first dream after taking it. Short, but that was my fault for freaking out probably. It was clear and realistic. I got it by spontaneously remembering to do a reality check. I should mention that I also used autosuggestion last night saying "I will remember to do a reality check in my dream." It was the first time I've used that phrase. Still, I don't want to detract from the GABA. It probably did have an effect.

Anyway, the problem was that after I woke up, 2:40 after taking it, I was so nauseous, I had to stay home from work today. I went back to bed and had no recall, but when I woke at about 10:30, about 6 hours after taking the GABA, I was much better. For me, I have to make sure that I have enough time to stay in bed until the effects wear off.

I'm kind of afraid to use it again though. If I do, I'll use fewer pills, or perhaps I will take it before bed.

yea you want to have tingles but, you don't want them to be too strong like that. Being everyone is different you have to find your exact dose for you

Originally Posted by Elwood

So what about the body building part? Is it really effective? And how much of an advantage does it give you?

it is effective its not like a steroid obviously. But, my HGH levels are higher than pretty much everyone. And I'm always the biggest person that is truly natural. I think its a combo of things that help me do good. Not just GABA but, it does help

I tried Gaba the other night. Not to whine but I wouldn’t classify the effect as tingling. I think a better description would be more like anxiety attack meets a stroke and or heart attack. Tingly is your arm or foot falls asleep. This is way more intense.

Now mind you I thought it said 1 teaspoon = 5 grams what it actually said is 1/4 tsp = 5 grams. I put a huge heaping tsp into a glass of orange juice. The first half I sipped the second half I downed. About 8 minutes later I was chatting with my business partner and told her she might need to take me to the ER. I hung up the phone in a hurry and started doing deep breathing to calm myself down. You are correct in 2 minutes it was over but 10 minutes later it hit again. I looked at the container and realized what I had done. I estimate I had quite a bit more than 5 grams. For my size I think I will actually do 5 grams next time. Hopefully it won’t be so intense.

I did have really good dreams a lot of false awakening no lucidity but very entertaining to say the least. I woke up wired at 5:00 a.m. and that lasted the whole day into the night is that another side effect because that would be classified as a good one. I can see where that would kick start a work out.

I’m going to try again tonight. Is there any warnings for 30 somethings using it. I’m not sure on the age range in this group. I don’t want to offend anyone.

Can you also take your other supplements around the same time or should you spread the time out? Is there any kind of interactions with other supplements or supplements you shouldn't take with Gaba?

I first tried the GABA a little over a week ago, taking 6mg after having slept 4 hours the first night just to be safe, and really didn't feel or experience anything.

So the next night I took 8mg, and took it with 500mg of choline and a B Complex vitamin after having slept about 4 hours, and sure enough my face, neck, and shoulders started tingling, and I got very relaxed, and had 3 short lucid dreams.

I then went on vacation for week.

While on vacation I was having a difficult time getting to sleep at night because of the different environment and time zone, so I started taking 8mg of GABA before going to bed each night, and it worked wonders at helping me relax and get to sleep.

After catching up on my sleep a little I tried not only taking 8mg of GAMA before going to bed, but then took another 4mg of GABA with 500mg of choline and a B-Complex vitamin after 4 hours of sleep, and although I did not have a lucid dream this night, I had a total of 16 dreams, several of which I should have become lucid in.

So, I'm sold on GABA myself and plan to make it a regular part of my supplements.

Thanks for starting this thread hercules!

hercules,

do we get the tingle feeling after drink the gaba with water?
i took 1 teaspoon yesterday night before going to bed, i felt no tingle and not remember any dream...

IADR, You took 8 milligrams of GABA? or 8 grams?

Hi all!
Phenibut is a rather cool stuff! When I took it, I was like this I mean it gaves you a very very good mood
And what about Lucid Dreaming?
First of all, you must know that I don't have a DJ.
- After taking Phenibut my dreams became much more realistic. And I think if you do RC in real life you necessarily will do it in dreams like this.
- My LDs became longer, maybe it's Phenibut, maybe it's my experience
- Yesterday I took Phenibut and Fezam (1 capsule contains pyracetam 400 mg, zinnarizina 25 mg) and I has DILD and it was about 30 minutes. And if not my alarm it could be longer
Today I bought 5-Htp and I will experiment with it together.

Originally Posted by unseen wombat

IADR, You took 8 milligrams of GABA? or 8 grams?

Better make that 8000 mg or 8 grams. I wasn't looking at my cannister when I wrote that up.

Since 1/4 teaspoon of my powder = 470mg, I just multiplied that by 4 to come up with 1 teaspoon being 1880mg, then took that times 4 that to get 7520mg.

So I just take 4 very full teaspoons of the powder to get 8000mg or 8 grams.

8 grams does seem to be the magic number that causes the face and neck to start tingling.

I'm still experimenting with this, but I am thinking that since it does affect the brain in a healthy way, that it will probably make the galantamine more effective when I take it.

Yea if you all think the effects are too strong like the stroke comment haha. That is TOO MUCH. Some people are more sensitive to this stuff than others. I let one of my friends try this stuff with me he got tingles at 10g. I got them at 5g. At 15 I feel like I'm dying with a shortness of breath and body numb haha. He took 15 and didn't bother him at all. So it has to be personal tolerance.

hi iadr,

i thought 1 full teaspoon is around 5 grams??

thanks

chong

Originally Posted by iadr

Better make that 8000 mg or 8 grams. I wasn't looking at my cannister when I wrote that up.

Since 1/4 teaspoon of my powder = 470mg, I just multiplied that by 4 to come up with 1 teaspoon being 1880mg, then took that times 4 that to get 7520mg.

So I just take 4 very full teaspoons of the powder to get 8000mg or 8 grams.

8 grams does seem to be the magic number that causes the face and neck to start tingling.

I'm still experimenting with this, but I am thinking that since it does affect the brain in a healthy way, that it will probably make the galantamine more effective when I take it.

I have been taking a tsp the last couple of nights and no tingling.

The night I had all the drama is I took a regular teaspoon not the measuring kind and put a huge heaping tsp in my orange juice. I won't make that mistake again.

My thought is it has to do with body weight and height. Maybe even muscle mass vs body fat.

I think the best way is to start out light and increase until you get the sensation. Which at 20.00 for this containter thats pretty cheap compared to all my other supplements.

I haven't experienced any Lucidity but I have lots of great dreams. I feel awesome the next day. I will keep increasing until I find the perfect dose.

I've been finding that the GABA works extremely well when taken a couple of hours after making a lucid attempt with galantamine/choline.

A few days ago I made an attempt using galantamine/choline with a 7mg nicotine patch which produced a lucid dream of about 30 minutes, after which I got up, took off the nicotine patch, took 4 grams of GABA, and went back to bed, and had an even better lucid dream lasting an hour with even better control than the first lucid.

Last night I took galantamine/choline with alpha-gpc, and after 2 hours woke up without even having gotten a buzz, probably because I have been trying it every other day lately which is too often to keep it effective.

After taking 4 grams of GABA though and going back to bed, I had a lucid lasting about an hour where I floated all over the place, which was then followed by an incredible non-lucid dream where I was spending the night someplace within 50 feet of a military landing strip where I was watching all of these incredible jets landing just feet from where I was staying.

Although I am also taking 8 grams of GABA when going to bed for the relaxation and body building effects as it seems to be helping me get a ripped stomach, I also feel the tingling later when I get up and take another 4 grams at WBTB time.

Originally Posted by Lexy

Can you also take your other supplements around the same time or should you spread the time out? Is there any kind of interactions with other supplements or supplements you shouldn't take with Gaba?

yea it's fine to stack it with most supplements, just google what you take and gaba to make sure there is not a crazy side effect somehow

Originally Posted by Lexy

I have been taking a tsp the last couple of nights and no tingling.

The night I had all the drama is I took a regular teaspoon not the measuring kind and put a huge heaping tsp in my orange juice. I won't make that mistake again.

My thought is it has to do with body weight and height. Maybe even muscle mass vs body fat.

I think the best way is to start out light and increase until you get the sensation. Which at 20.00 for this containter thats pretty cheap compared to all my other supplements.

I haven't experienced any Lucidity but I have lots of great dreams. I feel awesome the next day. I will keep increasing until I find the perfect dose.

they say its lean mass, because fat tissue is useless no veins run through it or anything. So the digestion only does it for your mass and how much blood is total in your body. Kind of like alcohol, and the more I think about it the more easy to explain it is. Just like alcohol, some people take more to get the feeling because of size, then its tolerance too. So its both. Gaba is also both, but, it doesn't get less effective it just depends on the person overall..