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      Reading in a LD.

      Hi all;

      Today i had a LD.
      I had the ability to well stabilize it and it lasted a lot.

      But i have a problem ...
      Which is, that i read before here in the forum, that reading in a dream is nearly impossible.
      That's why trying to read in a dream could be a reality check.

      But in this LD, the dream was so vivid.. I can read .. I can read it very well.
      And i was trying to record it in my mind, in order to recognize it when i wake up.
      I cant somehow recognize it now .. But not very well.

      That means, that my dream was very logical ... It didnt look like a dream either.
      But it was a dream, and i knew that.

      Im afraid that subconscious mind, get used to my reality checks that i do in the physical world, then it gives me the same results in dreams that it gives in the real world.
      This will make me so confused, and can make me insane!

      So, what if i found my world so logical, and then "oops", it is a dream ?!


      Thnx


      Hadeka.

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      What you are allowed to do in a dream depends upon the teacher. Job 33:14-17
      I have tried reading what I wanted to read, and failed, however I have been given things to read and remember quite well.
      I was given a message once, in answer to a question I asked.
      "Express C.M." I got this message years before I understood what it meant. It is best to either never forget some messages.
      It is always a good idea to note the environmental presentation with the message. Mine was next to the White House. Both were metaphors.

      Now, you are familiar with normal reactions to communications when the person does not understand. The fits and arrogance and all and they never apply themselves at all to understanding.

      It took me decades to acquire the experiences, through study.

      The White House is the center of leadership for the nation as the mind is the center of leadership for the body.
      C.M. are initials. Initials are a pattern that determines class inclusion. There are two, and only two methods of building a class, one does not have anything to do with judgment, but the other does.

      Then there is the foundation of language--shared experience. It would take me a long time to acquire the experience to understand the message.

      The message then has to do with judgment and the human mind--and I would have to do a lot of work to understand it.

      That Expess C.M. was written, and the metaphor of mind visual, the relationship between words and perceptual data.

      We understand everthing, even dreams commensurate with our current mental ability. We cannot see with our mind that which it is incapable of doing.

      Your mind is an open book. Some call it God. That is how a child would see it. Others might see it as being a child in a much vaster universe than one could imagine.
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      Thank u


      I just remembered something about that dream

      This thing that i was reading, was in a paper that a "Dream Guide" was showing to me.

      It was the first time for me to meet my dream guide.

      I felt that he is my dream guide .. I asked him if he is .. i cannot remember if he answered or not .. but i guess he said yes.

      This LD was very stabilized ...

      And thid dream guide looked very calm, very pure .. i guess i knew that im in a LD through him.

      How can i meet my dream guide again?
      Im very interested in meeting him again

      could it be the only time ?!


      Interesting to know your thoughts



      Thnx a lot.

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      @ Philosopher8659;
      i will re-read your last reply again after u have edited it now.

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      I look at the entire dream as communication. The DG is constructed for perhaps psychological need. I met what is called a DG once, it was because I had a temper tantrum about learning visual metaphor. I wanted simple english. It was after the temper tantrum my DG came to me, set me down and asked me just one question. "What do you feel about your progress." That one question crushed me and I woke up crying. Personally, I am ashamed at how slow and stupid I am. Secondly, since when is it up to the student to set learning goals and benchmarks? I was spoiled and stupid.

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      Pay no mind to philosopher. He's a pretty big nut job.

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      Quote Originally Posted by goldenaxel321 View Post
      Pay no mind to philosopher. He's a pretty big nut job.
      Then you have seen him? I have been looking for years. I think your bragging.
      Last edited by Philosopher8659; 09-06-2010 at 07:59 PM.

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      That is very interesting. It is a bit scary that the reality checks you normally use still work inside a dream, O_o It could possibly lead to not knowing which reality is actually real (inb4 Inception reference).

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      I can read in dreams as well, depending on how vivid the dream is. The best solution to your problem would be finding a RC that works for you constantly. I've found counting my fingers works well for me, and almost everyone has luck with plugging their nose and trying to breathe.

      If you find that your RCs start to fail, you can always switch them up and try something else. Also, keep in mind that dreams actually feel slightly different than the waking world. The more you pay attention to your surroundings while awake, and the more you pay attention to your dreams in general, the easier it will be to tell them apart.

      I pick up a half-eaten copy of a book by Neil Gaiman, and decide this is all his fault.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Samael View Post
      The more you pay attention to your surroundings while awake, and the more you pay attention to your dreams in general, the easier it will be to tell them apart.
      The converse is also true, the more you are aware in your dreams, the more you exercise reason, the more you do so while awake. In other words, lucid dreaming increases the time of mental exercise decreasing maturity time for certain mental processes.

      The distinction is that, while awake, the environment is general, in the dreamstate it is particular--aimed at one's particular psychology.
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      Philosopher's comments are somewhat less deliberately obfuscating this week.

      But yeah, that's a good way to put it. When you're dreaming, the world revolves around you, so you should notice a distinction from reality. Assuming the world doesn't revolve around you, of course.
      Last edited by Samael; 09-09-2010 at 02:43 AM.

      I pick up a half-eaten copy of a book by Neil Gaiman, and decide this is all his fault.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Samael View Post
      Philosopher's comments are somewhat less deliberately obfuscating this week..
      Maybe your just getting use to me. You have to just keep in mind, no matter what I say, i am still only counting on two fingers.

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