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      Post Spirit Materialization via the Lucid Gateway

      During a lucid dream you are in the deepest state of mind you can be in, and this opens a powerful gateway to your Higher Mind. Here is an example of what you can do with this power:


      I thought about how easy it was to leave the body when you realize your dreaming. I figured it must be because you are in the deepest state of mind you can be in; much deeper than hypnosis or meditation. I thought of the Lucid Dream state as the "Philosopher's Stone" like the Rosicrucians say. Only I never understood what they meant until this very night.

      So I figured I'd try to materialize a spirit instead. Sure enough, that night I realized I was dreaming, and I tried to materialize my spirit guide. I simply said "I ask my Higher Mind to material my spirit guide". This is essentially asking for God. The dream turned to black, and I felt a huge amount of electric energy rush through my body and center in my brain. Then I felt a cobweb forming on my face. I wiped it off because I thought spiders had formed a web on my face, which made me angry that somehow I had a spider infestation in my house and they chose my face as the spot for a nice thick web. I figured the materialization was a failure, but then 3 months later I found a book that described materialization of spirits.

      It said that when you materialize a person, a cobweb forms on your face just before the body is made. Now I understood why the Rosicrucians claimed elemental spirits would materialize as people and marry the members of their Order. Suddenly a fairy-tale story that seemed completely impossible was now proven to actually be possible.

      Much latter on in life I would come to realize the beauty in materialization, and the awesome power the brain posses over this Universe; able to so easily arrange trillions of atoms to form an object as complicated as a body. This is an ability every advanced species eventually learns to use as they're brains evolve. It seems to be something that requires the brain, and can not be done without the brain. Which makes me wonder how many people who've passed away might have went somewhere in the 125 billion galaxies in our Universe and got someone to materialize a body for them. What if most of these departed souls are living on an actual physical heavenly planet somewhere? And what about aliens that have far better technology than us? We've only just begun our development with technology and yet we already have made a way of arranging electrons they are positioned like they are around a nucleus, and these "false" atoms can be instantly changed because they are electrons controlled by a computer. And the "false" atoms have the physical appearance of normal atoms. Soon we will literally be able to create halograms that are actually physical! We can watch 3d TV that's also PHYSICAL! Let that boggle your mind for a while.

      Once while waiting for another lucid dream so I could materialize a spirit, I read a book about DMT. I opened the book to a random page, and it was about a lady who had just taken a dose of DMT. She said "what if you had a dream you picked a rose, and when you woke up, it was there in your hand?" She had the same name as my spirit guide I was always trying to materialize! And when you lucid dream, your brain produces DMT. I also thought of the rose as the symbol for the stone of alchemy.

      Another coincidence happened when I was watching TV. I accidentally pushed the wrong channel number and a Christian channel came up right when the priest was saying "This is it! Here in Revelations we are promised new bodies!" And he was talking about materializing bodies from thin air.

      Other times, right when I tuned on the TV, there would be a movie and they would be yelling the same name as my spirit guide. Once I was thinking about it, and I said "I wish I could just get a second chance to try this", then I walked downstairs and past the TV, and it said "Wish Granted" for some car commercial.

      I also came across a video about DMT by Terrance McKenna and he was talking about using the DMT experience to materialize objects.

      But now I've said too much about materialization, and you surely think I'm crazy by now, which is exactly what I thought of the Rosicrucians when I read the book "A Rosicrucian Notebook" ...but think about this -if your mind can move an object, then what's so hard about moving atoms into position? After all, this is God that you contact to do this through you. It's not actually your ability, but it does require your brain, which is the most complex creation nature has ever produced in this vast Universe. So why is it so hard to believe it can change the Universe to make something 'materialize'? We are made of the universe; and we are the universe.



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      That is truly amazing, if you are telling the truth about all those coincidences atleast, but I believe you.
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      Why would I waste my time writing lies about lucid dreaming? I always try to help people discover the real power that can be tapped by lucid dreams. I'm so tired of seeing people wasting their lucid dreaming ability to just run around and be silly.

      I now have all 5 senses in my dreams, and I dream in R.E.M. all night long continuously. A normal human has black-out periods with no R.E.M. sleep. Scientists theorize this is because the brain needs time to sort through the activities that happened that day.

      But I'm living proof that the black-out period is useless, and the human brain is most likely supposed have dreams continuously all night.

      By simply tapping the power of the Higher Mind repeatedly during my lucid dreams, and experiencing the effects of that energy, it has cause a real physical change in my brain chemistry which is evidenced by the fact I have all 5 senses in the dreams and have constant REM sleep.

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      I don't see how light energy can become matter through that means. I know energy can become matter, and vice-versa, but I can only think of atomic bombs at the moment. Keeping an open mind here, I'm sure it will be possible in the future.

      I really like the part about our souls' reincarnations through alien technology. It's a very comforting view on the afterlife. I see a couple questions I could ask (why would they fix our dead souls as opposed to creating new ones?), but if you guess that these people are enlightened, it makes much sense... Good idea for a novel, actually, if a few twists are added (already bubbling in my brain). Anyway, it's unfalsifiable, which means I will never thoroughly believe it, but it sounds highly benevolent, so I like the concept.

      The coincidences are coincidences. I could rattle off to you on my clairvoyant dreams (what with accurately portraying blood type, exam scores, and whenever my fish give birth), but that could also be called coincidence. (I know a few slight-of-hands that add to my 'clairvoyance.' It's really fun to trick family members. They ask me for lottery numbers... But I give them an excuse about how the gift of clairvoyance is not to be used as such, blah blah blah. They eat it up. Best of all is I somehow manage to keep a straight face through all of this). Anyway, I don't really accept your coincidences as evidence of spirit materialization merely because of their nature. Pretty cool coincidences, nonetheless.

      The cobweb thing is the most convincing piece of your discussion. The nature of your realization is more believable than the rest. I instinctively feel that the cobweb will be related not only to your discussion, but to some other, as of yet hidden purpose (much like the several reports of spinning platonic solids).
      Abraxas

      Quote Originally Posted by OldSparta
      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

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      Quote Originally Posted by NDC View Post
      Why would I waste my time writing lies about lucid dreaming? I always try to help people discover the real power that can be tapped by lucid dreams. I'm so tired of seeing people wasting their lucid dreaming ability to just run around and be silly.

      I now have all 5 senses in my dreams, and I dream in R.E.M. all night long continuously. A normal human has black-out periods with no R.E.M. sleep. Scientists theorize this is because the brain needs time to sort through the activities that happened that day.

      But I'm living proof that the black-out period is useless, and the human brain is most likely supposed have dreams continuously all night.

      By simply tapping the power of the Higher Mind repeatedly during my lucid dreams, and experiencing the effects of that energy, it has cause a real physical change in my brain chemistry which is evidenced by the fact I have all 5 senses in the dreams and have constant REM sleep.
      You've lost me here. What I mean by that is that you've lost even more credibility. Your reasoning is circular, as follows:

      I have proof of Higher Mind God because I have no NREM sleep because I have lucid dreams where I ask Higher Mind God to make me have no NREM sleep.

      Please explain your methods further, as at the moment I'm not sure I understand you. Exactly how did you reach this continuous REM sleep? I know that through proper meditation (or binaural visuals) you can achieve theta wave states, which decrease the need for NREM sleep. Is this apart of your secret?
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      Quote Originally Posted by OldSparta
      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

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      I too would like some insight on this no R.E.M sleep. That would be the best "find" of all.

      Oh, can you give some more details of materialization? I would like a new Xbox 360 cause mine broke. >

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      LOL elwood. TC you barely make sense... everyone has R.E.M. Second TC how do you have all senses? dreams are random- thats like saying I train my lucid skills such as flying etc. -Impossible why? because dreams are RANDOM. Thirdly just IMO... you shouldnt try to summon or make spirits- it says its wrong... but what do I know but dont start crying when things start going bad for you. I totally agree with Abra, you lost credit by that statement.
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      I personally have only REM sleep. I can achieve REM sleep instantly, I know this because I can feel my body and lucid at the same time, and I can feel my eyelids moving.
      "There’s a place I go when I’m alone. Do anything I want, be anyone I wanna be." - Dream Catch Me by Newton Faulkner

      "It's hard to say that I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep 'Cause everything is never as it seems" - Fireflies by Owl City

      My dream blog: http://www.oneironaught.org

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      First of all, I'm not looking to prove myself to anyone here; I'm simply explaining what I've discovered about the power of lucid dreaming.
      And why is lonestarx calling me TC?

      And when I say I have all 5 senses in the dream, that means I can hear, see, smell, taste, and most importantly FEEL everything as solid and detailed as reality. I thought that was self explainatory, but apparently lonestarx didn't get it.

      I can touch a person's skin in the dream and it 100% accurate, with every pore and every goose bump. Pleasure feels just as good as reality, but so does pain. I've often been bitten and stabbed in the dream and the pain was unbelievable.

      And as far as coincidences are concerned, you have to learn to PAY ATTENTION to them add see when they are guiding you. There are wonderful books written about it. I've achieved a great deal by paying attention to what the universe is trying to tell me via coicidences, including the true Philosopher's Stone. Hence my alchemy website with over 100 photos of lab alchemy. And if you think materialization of a spirit is hard to believe, you'd never believe what I've done with the Philosopher's Stone. Not only is everything written about it true, but there are even more incredible wonders that can be produced from it's use.

      People with common sense will simply read what I've wrote, and then try it in their next lucid dream, and when the power over takes them, and the spirit materializes, they will see that yes indeed, NDC tells the truth. You can sit here all day writting your opion about me and what I've written, or you can simply give it a try.

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      Quote Originally Posted by lonestarx View Post
      LOL elwood. TC you barely make sense... everyone has R.E.M. Second TC how do you have all senses? dreams are random- thats like saying I train my lucid skills such as flying etc. -Impossible why? because dreams are RANDOM. Thirdly just IMO... you shouldnt try to summon or make spirits- it says its wrong... but what do I know but dont start crying when things start going bad for you. I totally agree with Abra, you lost credit by that statement.
      The five senses are quite possible in lucid dreams, if you remember to concentrate on them. In one of my earliest lucids, I literally immersed myself in a pile of leaves, feeling them, smelling them... I even ate one (it tasted like paper.). If you remember to include all five senses, they'll come. I suggest immersing yourself in real life. When walking down a street, feel the bouncing of feet on pavement, listen to the far off cars, taste the cool air. To experience vivid dreams, one must first experience vivid life.

      I disagree with your notion that dreams are random (as well as the outcome of attempted skills). This is based on personal experience. Dreams usually have a meaning, most likely tied to something you've seen/heard/thought of recently. (I'm not saying they are symbolic, just that they have a pattern).

      As for skills, I believe that just as any other real life skill, practice helps it to improve. I'm sure you'll still have off days where you can't fly, just like you have off days in real life where you can't seem to hit a baseball. It's a little random, but it's not like these skills can't improve over time.

      If summoning exists, I doubt any harm could come to the physical, tangible being that summoned the ethereal, intangible spirit.
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      Quote Originally Posted by OldSparta
      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

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      And as far as coincidences are concerned, you have to learn to PAY ATTENTION to them add see when they are guiding you. There are wonderful books written about it. I've achieved a great deal by paying attention to what the universe is trying to tell me via coicidences, including the true Philosopher's Stone. Hence my alchemy website with over 100 photos of lab alchemy. And if you think materialization of a spirit is hard to believe, you'd never believe what I've done with the Philosopher's Stone. Not only is everything written about it true, but there are even more incredible wonders that can be produced from it's use.
      Coincidences are what you make of them. I find they can be pretty freakin' accurate to the conclusion I wish to make at times. Other times, they are completely off the mark. Therefore, I consider them unreliable, and would never sensibly base a decision on previous coincidences. That's my viewpoint: because coincidences happen less likely than more, they are unreliable as evidence.

      I will not try it in my next lucid, as I'm currently finishing up the last stage of my personal task. After I complete this task (I plan to complete it tonight, as always), I will try your method. It sounds incredibly interesting. Have you tried it more than once? Did you see the person after the cobwebs formed (assuming you experienced the cobweb feeling again)? I am very curious~

      the awesome power the brain posses over this Universe; able to so easily arrange trillions of atoms to form an object as complicated as a body
      The brain does not create the body. Sperm and egg merge and multiply through preset DNA blueprints. Unless, of course, you mean to say "the awesome power the brain posses over this Universe; able to so easily control trillions of atoms that form an object as complicated as a body." Then it makes perfect sense.
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      Quote Originally Posted by OldSparta
      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

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      I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that your not lying NDC. I would very much appreciate it if you wrote a tutorial on this technique.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Elwood View Post
      I too would like some insight on this no R.E.M sleep. That would be the best "find" of all.

      Oh, can you give some more details of materialization? I would like a new Xbox 360 cause mine broke. >
      I'm banned from XBL because i have a hot 360, hot as in modded.

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      Its not worth it. You should have two 360's so you can have XBL. :0...

      Mine was so hot it melted. T~T
      Last edited by Elwood; 01-17-2008 at 05:28 AM.

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      TC means topic creater- which you are... my bad if I dont metion your user name. What I mean by 5 senses is you act like we cant do that already. Maybe Im gifted because in my LD I have all my senses, even exp fear which was a thousand times worse. Also I ment that dreams are random so most of time its not always recuring and I agree Abra its not random in that sense. Was there a method? Im sorry but I read that wall of text and all I got was your ideas. I agree on a tutorial for your method in attain Luc.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Elwood View Post
      Its not worth it. You should have two 360's so you can have XBL. :0...

      Mine was so hot it melted. T~T

      I'm more a PC gamer so it doesn't matter, i can get games cheap from my boss at work and play it offline. My first 360 had the famous red button of doom and stopped working. Overheated i believe.

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      Quote Originally Posted by NDC View Post
      But now I've said too much about materialization, and you surely think I'm crazy by now, which is exactly what I thought of the Rosicrucians when I read the book "A Rosicrucian Notebook" ...but think about this -if your mind can move an object, then what's so hard about moving atoms into position? After all, this is God that you contact to do this through you. It's not actually your ability, but it does require your brain, which is the most complex creation nature has ever produced in this vast Universe. So why is it so hard to believe it can change the Universe to make something 'materialize'? We are made of the universe; and we are the universe.

      Not really, i used to post on a spiritualist message board and they say they can materialize spirits, why would they all be wrong? oh and everyone can see them as if they are real flesh and bone people, not just 1 person. Of course i don't believe in dreams turned into where you can materilize real spirits, i'd just be like "another one of my subconcious thoughts".

      edit- watch all of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVtHB...eature=related (all of the parts..it's interesting), the guy mentions materialization somewhere in one of the parts.
      Last edited by LucidFlanders; 01-17-2008 at 06:30 AM.

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      My 360 had the red ring of death as well. X...(

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      I think I'll give it a try. Just ask my 'Higher Mind' eh?
      Spirit Guide.. hmm..

      Man if only I hadnt seen that 1 episode of ghost hunters

      As far as the elimination of the NREM, very interested..


      PS: I need a new 360 too

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      To Abra, I was talking about the brain controlling atoms to make the body during the birth cycle -- I was talking about when you materialize the body for the spirit.

      As for coincidences, if they aren't giving you correct answers, then you aren't talking about coincidences by the way I define them. You are talking about something different than what I mean apparently.

      As for the 5 senses in the dreams, I'm not talking about only lucid dreams. All my dreams have the 5 senses, and I dream in REM all night. Neither of those is supposed to be possible for the human brain to do. I've gotten many neuroligists and neuroscientists interested in how my brain could be doing this and yet I'm not suffering ill side effects. They theorized that if anyone has REM sleep all the time, it would cause you to be tired all day because you wouldn't be getting any deep sleep. But I dream in REM in the deeper levels of sleep like Theta and Delta. This makes no sense to them. The brain also needs to produce more chemicals to keep up and keep producing the REM dream state.

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      And there is no need for a tutorial. It can't get any easier -- you simply say the one sentence and wait patiently.

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      So all I have to say is, "I want to materialize a Xbox 360. (for instance)"

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