Originally posted by Umbrella
I agree with you where you say it really doesn't matter that much, but there are tons of threads with people asking whether or not they were lucid in their dream, because they did know they were dreaming but it wasn't very vivid/they had no control or w/e.
Now I haven't known about lucid dreaming for a very long time yet, but from the things I've read about it the definition of lucid dreaming is "dreaming while knowing you're dreaming", so unless I'm somehow mistaken about that, saying you reject that definition is the same as saying a number is not necessarily even if you can divide it by 2 (and get another integer >.>). This is just an example of course. Just saying it to show that would be strange.

So yeah... I'm with Ryden
BINGO

it's pretty cut and dry folks, but if you want to go ahead and blur the lines of the definition just to make yourself feel better, then fine...just don't expect alot of support from the general masses here if you go around screaming "I find I can know I am dreaming and not be lucid, I reject your definition and substitute my own"

Originally posted by Umbrella
there are tons of threads with people asking whether or not they were lucid in their dream, because they did know they were dreaming but it wasn't very vivid/they had no control or w/e.
you hit something there, I find that alot of confusion on the definition of 'lucid' comes from the fact that yes, they KNEW they were dreaming, but the control wasn't there, or vision was fuzzy etc. Lucidity and dream control are 2 separate things. But they are specific with specific definitions.

Quit trying to confuse all the n00bs with your rebellious definition rejections y'all, sheesh