Thread: If you are wondering if you were lucid...

Originally posted by Seeker
One thing that always confuses me is how people can say that they have control of a non-lucid dream? Are they confused with dream incubation where you set the stage for what you are going to dream about before you go to sleep?

well here's what happened to me once: I dreamt I had magical powers, but I believed it was really happening, like I just accepted that I was magic, and then I turned an old truck into a cool supped up model with my mind, but I never once thought "Oh this is a dream"

that's what I mean when I say control w/o lucidity...same with some flying dreams I've had where I wasn't lucid, but I could control where I went...I just accepted it as normal

does that make sense or am I off my rocker

Originally posted by Leo Volont+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leo Volont)</div>

If you have to ask...

You weren't Lucid.[/b]

I thought that that was what Ryden was going to say in the first post, based on the title.



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well here's what happened to me once: I dreamt I had magical powers, but I believed it was really happening, like I just accepted that I was magic, and then I turned an old truck into a cool supped up model with my mind, but I never once thought "Oh this is a dream"

that's what I mean when I say control w/o lucidity...same with some flying dreams I've had where I wasn't lucid, but I could control where I went...I just accepted it as normal

does that make sense or am I off my rocker

Yes, that happens to me quite often. I value Control (that is, being myself in the present moment, not overcontrolling and wrecking the dream) much more than Lucidity. Really I feel that the only use of Lucidity is to augment Control; Lucidity without Control is worthless, although it is a sign that you are going in the right direction.

Originally posted by Feeble Wizard
Lucidity without Control is worthless, although it is a sign that you are going in the right direction.

I have to disagree with you there man. Lucidity without control = exploration

Exploration of the things your mind is trying to present to you is priceless

Originally posted by &#091;Alpha
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Did he have COMPLETE control, or did he do a shitload of magnificent stuff that made it appear as if he had ultimate power.

eg.: let's say that in a dream I fly, I cast spells, I summon vehicles, I summon people, I create whole new worlds.

You'd assume that I am god right? And Can do anything?
But basically because it wasn't lucid, I did nothing more than that.

I'm not sure I understand your question. This guy apparently had total control, like a god, but he was not aware that he was dreaming and therefore he was not having a lucid dream. That's the point that is being made in this thread and OpheliaBlue gave a nice example. I've also had dreams where I was flying and thought I had finally done it in real life. (I want it really bad)

I’m with Seeker on the importance of lucidity vs. control. I see people have dreams where they become Power Rangers and kill zombies. This may show a lot of control but in my opinion it has as much value as playing a video game. I am just expressing my preference. Many people are doing Lucid Dreaming just for the fun; so control is important. I place more importance on the spiritual/self-discovery potential of Lucid Dreaming.

Originally posted by Seeker+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Seeker)</div>

I have to disagree with you there man. Lucidity without control = exploration

Exploration of the things your mind is trying to present to you is priceless [/b]

That isn't what I meant by control. Without the control I am talking about, you would not even be able to explore. You would just know that you are dreaming but you would not be your true self; you would just go on with the dream as senselessly as you would non-lucidly. I am talking about control over your mind. I don't really think it is good to control things outside myself in a dream either.

That is what I meant by:
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I value Control (that is, being myself in the present moment, not overcontrolling and wrecking the dream) much more than Lucidity.