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Some years ago.... I saw a really strange dream and I will only discribe it as a void.. empty dream... I will like any sujestions if this was a lucid or not dream |
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a bad dream that you gained lucidity in |
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I only want to know if this is some kind of dreaming other than lucid dreams... How the lack of physical senses is explained.... I had other dreams that I knew that they were dreams and in some of them I gained control but this was totally different. |
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I believe its a non-REM dream. |
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"we may accept dream telepathy as a working hypothesis." Stephen LaBerge, page 231 Lucid Dreaming 1985
But what do you mean by the term non-REM dream. I know that dreams happen during the REM stage of sleep.... |
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during non-REM sleep, you are completely unconcious, so I don't see how your brain could try to perceive your surroundings like it supposedly does in dreams when you're in deeper sleep. In other words, I don't think dreams outside of REM-sleep are possible, but hey, I don't know everything. Anyway, besides that, I don't see why there would be no visuals connected to a "non-REM" dream if they did exist since the visuals of a dream are created by your imagination. |
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A dream
is a reality that others cannot see.
Reality
is a dream you share with others.
its possible to experience anything in a REM dream, including nothing at all (the void) iv experienced states simalar to what your discribing directly after leaving a dream, its totally normal (and very possible during REM) |
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80% of subjects report dreams in REM state. |
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"we may accept dream telepathy as a working hypothesis." Stephen LaBerge, page 231 Lucid Dreaming 1985
before i answer even more - could you answer the following question? |
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"What if I were to tell u that you can take control...of all of this? Look at all these people. Seems as though they're just all chatting away? Nothing to do with u. And yet., maybe they're only here because u wanted them to. U are their god. U can make them obey u or even destroy u."
-- Vanilla Sky (movie)
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A dream
is a reality that others cannot see.
Reality
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Interesting thoughts in this thread! I know during meditation one can go into a complete "void". Now if someone were to have a dream of that "void" and hadn't experienced that before I can see how one might have a panic attack reaction and come out of it similar to a night terror episode. Of course can't say for sure that is what happened. |
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I only clearly remember one “void” dream that I had. As stated above, it could be several things, including a “regular” LD with no imagery, which can be disconcerting and therefore become nightmare-ish. I wasn’t actually scared in the void – I just stayed there for a while, thinking, hearing a few voices, and that was that. |
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"And if in our sleep and dreams we perceive, more distinctly than in the day-life, signs of the highest beauty and the purest bliss, - should we not then give them our closest attention?"
Frederick van Eeden
I am going into the void 3 to 5 times a week now, after having non-void LDs for over 25 years. The first few times going into the void "by accident" resulted in fear because there is nothing.... I felt like I would die if I entered. Who was I in the void? For the last 20-30 trips into the void, I have chosen to go - to confront my fear of death. To work toward eliminating the self concept. Now these visits to the void bring peace and joy. |
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"we may accept dream telepathy as a working hypothesis." Stephen LaBerge, page 231 Lucid Dreaming 1985
I would estimate that the LDs in the void last from 1-5 minutes each, but they usually don't end with me waking up. Almost always I eventually drop into a pre-made dream set - just like a Hollywood movie set. I see it from above and land in (am moved into) the set. Then a dream starts and I use all the techniques I can to stay in them as long as possible. Sometime I then go back into the void and some times I wake up. Total lucid time is anywhere from 5-20 minutes. Last week I went into the void, over and over again, without waking up - I estimate total time in void was 10+ min. |
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Im with JimVano on this one. My times if my lucid dreams when I randomly feel like walking through a door a jumping through a morror I endup in a void like place. I never know what to do there so I usually just leave the same way I entered. I dont think this is nonREM sleep or a night terror. I just think its like space in your mind that hasnt been givin a chance to form a dreamscape. But thats just my opinion. |
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"If you don't change your beliefs, your life will be like this forever. Is that good news?"-Douglas Adams
While searching for writtings about the Void, I went to Andrew Cohen's website (www.andrewcohen.org), a spiritual guru and the editor of "What is Enlightenment?" magazine. I found the following: |
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