Thread: Can any of you LD every night?

Uh, yeah, I can LD every night for long periods of time, sometimes even 8 hours. I have done so since I was a child, because WILDs to me were insomnia busters, and still are.

But some people do it out of persistance, and so I believe it is possible. Many times, I do practice being someone else in a LD, and getting them to do the RCs (I still know I am dreaming).

You could reach any level if you keep trying.

Originally posted by nesgirl119
Uh, yeah, I can LD every night for long periods of time, sometimes even 8 hours. I have done so since I was a child, because WILDs to me were insomnia busters, and still are.

But some people do it out of persistance, and so I believe it is possible. Many times, I do practice being someone else in a LD, and getting them to do the RCs (I still know I am dreaming).

You could reach any level if you keep trying.

That is so cool! If I could do what you just described and have really vivid, tripped out dreams when I do it, that would be absolutely phenomenal. It would be the be all end all of all altered states techniques. I would easily go the rest of my life without touching marijuana again because I would be into something a trillion times greater. Such a pattern of lucid dreaming would be an excellent exploration of what I consider the ulitmate frontier. I have seen what lucid dreams can be, and it is some of the most unbelievable stuff I have ever encountered. I just haven't gotten to where I can have the extremely long ones or have them on the time basis I would like to achieve, but I plan to keep striving. I'm about to go full blown obsessed. Looking back, I think I was only half way to obsessed during the last phase. This time, I am going all out. That means regular reality checks, well kept dream journal, all of it.

You have a very unusual and beautiful talent. That is an incredible thing.

Anybody else?

Naw, I cannot. But I recently learned all of my siblings can, and have since they were children.

Kind of a kick in the pants to take at first, but I guess if in my very very half assed attempt to LD, I've managed to have a few means I have potential?

I deffinitly believe, with enough work and the belief you have the ability that you will achieve what you desire.

Not right now, but sooner or later I will manage.

Couldn't you materialise your sub conscious as a DC and make it let you have LD each night.
Would that be possible?

Originally posted by Universal Mind


That is so cool! *If I could do what you just described and have really vivid, tripped out dreams when I do it, that would be absolutely phenomenal. *It would be the be all end all of all altered states techniques. *I would easily go the rest of my life without touching marijuana again because I would be into something a trillion times greater. *Such a pattern of lucid dreaming would be an excellent exploration of what I consider the ulitmate frontier. *I have seen what lucid dreams can be, and it is some of the most unbelievable stuff I have ever encountered. *I just haven't gotten to where I can have the extremely long ones or have them on the time basis I would like to achieve, but I plan to keep striving. *I'm about to go full blown obsessed. *Looking back, I think *I was only half way to obsessed during the last phase. *This time, I am going all out. *That means regular reality checks, well kept dream journal, all of it. *

You have a very unusual and beautiful talent. *That is an incredible thing.

Anybody else?

Yeah, I know it is cool, but on the downside I rely on it always to fall asleep. Because WILD takes a while to activate, I can look around my room, and remember where I am.

That would be so cool if you did that. Currently, I am trying to unlock new powers in my LDs as well, like studying inside a LD, finding others that are really good and DS w/them (sorry, couldn't help it!), doing the Lucid tasks before they are assigned, doing the Lucid tasks more than 1x, finding out what my day is going to be like, and hanging out with Cody in an original ...?.

Good luck!

Originally posted by nesgirl119
Uh, yeah, I can LD every night for long periods of time, sometimes even 8 hours. I have done so since I was a child, because WILDs to me were insomnia busters, and still are.

But some people do it out of persistance, and so I believe it is possible. Many times, I do practice being someone else in a LD, and getting them to do the RCs (I still know I am dreaming).

You could reach any level if you keep trying.

I know this is been said a thousand times, but that is amazing. I currently LD about once or twice a week since I started RCing w/ self-suggestion 3 weeks ago. I still don't have real control, but I get closer to stability and control with nearly every LD. I believe that the control and skill nesgirl has is achievable with enough effort, and hope I get to this point at some point. It is that kind of achievement that inspires me to keep trying.

P.S. How do you use WILD as an insomnia buster? I heard it's extremely difficult to WILD while falling asleep.

I can, but at the end of the week I'm exhausted. I like to try for lucidity about 3 or 4 times a week.

I just learned about WILD when I joined this site, so I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. One of these days I'll give it a go.

Originally posted by PenguinLord13

P.S. How do you use WILD as an insomnia buster? I heard it's extremely difficult to WILD while falling asleep.

Well, when I was a child, I had a very difficult time falling asleep due to a dreaded insomnia spell. My mom would turn on movies (Christmas ones were most common due to the fact this thing started in November, but lasted all of December as well, and my mom had to put me downstairs C.Eve, and it took until 2AM to fall asleep, and I woke up at 5AM). The basic problem was even though I was unable to talk then (even at age 3), I was so full of energy all the time that I could never sleep or take naps. I would watch the movies until 1AM, when my body would be fully asleep (my bedtime was 9PM, but because of my insomnia spell, I couldn't fall asleep then), and I would fade into a dream pretty smoothly w/o losing consciousness, b/c my energy level was just too high. When I would fade into the dream, I would know that I was dreaming, since I spent the last 6 hours with a dreaded insomnia spell, but though I knew I was dreaming, I didn't gain full control until I learned how to talk. Insomnia would be busted temporarily, but sometimes I would wake up in the middle of the night either in SP, or really sick to the stomach (and oftentimes, I would walk to the bathroom to barf, and go through the whole process again), because my health is great, but my stomach has huge issues. SP never bothered me though (the only thing I was frightened of back then was the furnace, and knew it couldn't just walk up the stairs to get me). I just thought I was asleep and dreaming, so I would do the same, and faded off into another dream.
Though once my body and mind got used to doing this, I became really dependant on this method to fall asleep all together, and have been ever since. Still, WILDs will usually take at least 1/2 hour average. RCing never was a problem, because of the fact I would remember being in my room (or somewhere).

I kind of started naturally, but really, it was all due to that dreaded Insomnia spell. And I really don't remember if I LDed as a baby or at 2 years old (but maybe I did, but I cannot recall anything further than my 3rd year).

And this is also why I use nesgirl119 as my username. Nintendo Girl 11-9. On the morning I was 3 years old at about 1AM, I scored my 1st LD, but unfortunately, woke up too many times in SP, and only slept until 7AM (I was too excited for goodies).

That's an amazing story, LDing at such a young age. I'm curious though, how can you fall asleep into WILD? I thought you had to have been asleep already before REM starts?

The reason I ask is, I too have a really hard time falling asleep and sometimes spend hours just laying there trying to fall asleep. Could I try WILDing that way?

it is theoretically possible to retrain yourself to start sleep in a REM period (as shown with the uberman's sleep schedule, except you train yourself to do it at night when you normally would go to bed rather than at 3 hr intervals) (I've never met a person on the uberman's schedule thus the reason i say theoretical)

nessy: that story makes perfect sense, you couldn't sleep but 3 hrs a night so your body realised it had to go straight into REM rather than go through deep sleep first, you utilised this on accident by sitting in the bed mindlessly watching movies without moving for long periods of time, one night your body went into SP while you were doing this and you fell into a REM stage thus also falling consciously into a dream. and you've done that ever since

so yeah, there's how your story would make a lot of sense

You've inspired me, I'm gonna start WILDing to bed now

PS. could you explain what you do to WILD to bed?

Originally posted by nesgirl119
Uh, yeah, I can LD every night for long periods of time, sometimes even 8 hours. I have done so since I was a child, because WILDs to me were insomnia busters, and still are.

That's the biggest load of bull I heard in a long time.

1. Even with severe sleeping disorders, it's virtually impossible to be relatively healthy without a good load of dreamless deep-staged sleep every night. Body and brain need recovery, bingo! Some sleep disorders mess up sleep-cycles, but still enable a healthy sleep by incorporating deep sleep, for example some hours into the night.

2. Dreams in non-REM-sleep are rare and very hard to remember. They are almost never lucid because the brain is far from being cognatively active.

3. Staying conscious for longer periods of time during sleep is nothing anybody does as a child. Serious meditation experts who have thousands or tens of thousands of hours of meditation behind them and mastered dream yoga - they have chances to reach sleep like stages with full consciousness - or maintain consciousness during deep sleep.

4. You want to tell us that, theoretically, you could stay conscious for your whole life? Refer to point 3. If you were that big of a natural talent, you could have made quite some money from getting your stuff researched.

5. You lose consciousness during changes of sleep stages (or you wake up).

6. LDing as a baby? Stop talking please.

6. (a) Babies are barely conscious at all. They're more like stupid animals.
(B) It's impossible that you remember that phase of your life that detailed. It's impossible that you remember your sleeping habits as a BABY, before you could even talk.

7. You try to find out what your next day is gonna be like, in sleep? Oh wow, you kow what, I think you should be put in a shredder.


Whenever I read a post of yours, I want to throw up. Who would want to write such a load of nonsense on a forum. It's the stupid PSI shit that you try to make believable, it's a bunch of other stupid crap. You're full of shit! Seek professional help.

Korittke: We do not condone harsh attacks on our forum's users. There is certainly a more amicable way to express doubt upon one's audacious claims. You should consider this an official warning.

nesgirl119: Please stop posting story fabrications on the forum. As you can see that can upset people, and it's especially not fair to new users who are just becoming introduced to lucid dreaming. For instance, it's not true that you know the "lucid task of the month" before it is released, and yet you continue to insist that you do. Doing so only misleads new users in regards to what is really possible with lucid dreaming. We've also asked that you stop confusing users with your own terms (such as using the term "sci-fi" for an OBE), and yet you continue to do so (masking it with dots and question marks or underscores is equally as confusing). Please be honest with your posts and try not to introduce confusion.

Thanks to all who have replied so far. I started this thread because I am trying to get a feel for how much of a lifestyle lucid dreaming can be. For me so far, it is something I am fortunate to come upon here and there, especially when I get really dedicated to making it happen. I want to get an idea of how much further I can go.

If somebody leaves a post that seems to be possibly far-fetched or dishonest and you want to express disagreement, please be respectful about it. The admin are working to keep all of the forums here (except the at-your-own-risk Religion/Spirituality forum) peaceful, and hostile exchanges can get threads shut down. So please be cool with my thread here. I want to keep it up for a while so we can all better understand how much lucid dreaming can potentially be part of our lives. Thanks.

Oh thank God icedawg came here to set Universal Mind straight on nesgirl's tendencies. It frustrates me when she answers questions that were asked in seriousness.

Jack D: could you explain why you are tired after trying to LD each night for a long time? I know failing a WILD takes a lot out of your sleep schedule, but you mentioned that you don't do WILDs, so what is your method?

And to Universal Mind, lucid dreaming has been a big part of my life for short bursts. What I mean is, I will often go a long time without having one, then start researching them, visiting DreamViews often, and trying new techniques. Eventually I get bored of it again. Still, lucid dreaming as a big part of your lifestyle is pretty natural to aquire when you realize that you dream every night, and therefore should pay attention to those chances.

Originally posted by chris_
That's an amazing story, LDing at such a young age. *I'm curious though, how can you fall asleep into WILD? *I thought you had to have been asleep already before REM starts?

The reason I ask is, I too have a really hard time falling asleep and sometimes spend hours just laying there trying to fall asleep. *Could I try WILDing that way?

Though they're not as strong, and have really weird characteristics, ye can dream during SWS. I guess the reason they aren't as strong is so ya don't start enacting them! I'm guessing that could be why WILDs are often not as vivid or stable as DILDs