Thread: is SP really needed to WILD?

I think the kicker for WILDing is that you have to be able to enter REM sleep shortly after having been awake enough to be thinking (no deeper than Stage 1 sleep/hypnagogia). The times when I feel SP vibrations just happen to be the only times (or almost the only times) I fall into REM sleep shortly enough after having been awake or almost awake. I usually pass through Stage 2 sleep, where thinking is minimal, for a while before dreaming, and forget that I was just about to dream.

It's not required, but it usually happens for me anyway. It's just one of those stages that's really hard, and almost impossible to miss if you pull off the WILD properly.

The only way you can really miss SP is if you have a unusually calm episode of it, or slip out of consciousness before it occurs, and become lucid after it has finished.