Thread: Question for LDers: Realness of LDs

All of my LDs so far have felt like normal dreams :\

But I've only had DILDs, and I think I read that WILDs may be a lot more vivid and real.

They feel extremely vivid.



I used to doubt that they would be any more realistic, but then I had my first

Amazing!

I've had lucid dreams like that, but I've also had some amazingly vivid dream (and just about everything in between)

Well, while I'm dreaming, I'm always amazed at how real the dream seems. Afterward, though, I have similar experiences to yours - the dream seems somehow less real, or like it was a memory from a long time ago, rather than happening only hours before.

I'm not any more experienced than you are, though (I've only been doing it for a year or so, but I've had more than a dozen LD's).

my LDs are very vivid and realistic. But, like naikou said, after when i wake up and remember the dream, i dont remember it being so significantly vivid and realistic. But i know that it realy was extremely realistic.

Originally Posted by rookybeats

They feel extremely vivid.



I used to doubt that they would be any more realistic, but then I had my first

Amazing!

Did your LD(s) feel just as real after you woke up?

My LDs can be vivid, but after the fact, the memory is always disappointing. I think it's because in all my LDs so far there has been a fundamental difference between waking experience and LD experience that my dreaming mind has yet to overcome: namely, I'm sleeping, I'm dreaming. It just doesn't seem like my brain is responding in the same way, no matter how real it may seem at the time.

-Lux

Originally Posted by Scarred_for_life

I've had lucid dreams like that, but I've also had some amazingly vivid dream (and just about everything in between)

Did it get better over time, or is it just totally random? Are there influencing factors, techniques, perhaps?

But, vividness is not necessarily the thing I'm after. Most of my LDs are vivid: I remember seeing amazing colors, feeling real textures, etc. But, remembering them it seems like I wasn't every really there. They don't have the same immediacy of waking life, for me.

-Lux

Ok I'm just going to say it. I think that there is no such thing as a "lucid dream"

I think that you are only dreaming that you are in control.

See the more you think about something when your not sleeping the more likely that you will dream about it. (I.E. Lucid dreaming)

I really think that you have no control what so ever, you just think you do.

My LD are extremely real, I can feel the coldness of the air, the ground underneath my feet, my shirt on my shoulders.

My LDs are always very realistic. I can taste food or the strong burn of alcohol, or feel cold winds, or feel the pain from a pinprick...I remember a dream character's unique voice or looks, or the the pattern on the walls of the house I'm in. Even though I'm able to do things like fly, the dream feels as real as when I'm awake.

Sometimes when I'm in an LD, it feels like I'm there for hours. I've tried to keep track of time, but it's just about impossible. Logically I know that dreams last around 10 minutes, but LDs seem to be a lot longer to me.

Anyway, after I wake up, it kind of feels like the dream is as real as a memory from two days ago.

Originally Posted by Naiya

My LDs are always very realistic....

Anyway, after I wake up, it kind of feels like the dream is as real as a memory from two days ago.

Has it always been this way for you, or was it different in the beginning? How does this differ from normal dreams in terms of how real it feels (not just having sensations, but feeling like you really experienced them) during and after the dream?

-Lux

Lux-

Yeah it's always been that way. A normal dream doesn't feel as real to me, no. Non-lucid dreams aren't as stable as lucid dreams (for example, the environment), and I don't usually get realistic sensations in them, let alone complex ones such as the taste of a particular food.

Originally Posted by Donutdude123

Ok I'm just going to say it. I think that there is no such thing as a "lucid dream"

I think that you are only dreaming that you are in control.

See the more you think about something when your not sleeping the more likely that you will dream about it. (I.E. Lucid dreaming)

I really think that you have no control what so ever, you just think you do.

That doesn't explain how LD'ers can use eye signals to communicate to the outside world.

Yeh I know what you mean Lux. I've been LDing for about a year and a half and most of them have not seemed very real.

The last LD I had however was pretty real- probably because it was a FILD not just a DILD so it was far more stable and vivid and I remember thinking how everything was so real and true to life in my house. It still wasn't as real as real life though- well the dream was, but the memory of it wasn't if that makes sense. It's amazing at the time but the memory of it fades a bit when you wake-up.
I think it will get better though as this is a big improvement for me and it took me about four years to have a lucid dream in the first place and now I've had nearly 40. Maybe saying "I will remember my dream to be as real as real-life" before sleep or in a LD or some similar auto-suggestion may help?

Good luck.

I often have vivid dreams, lucid or not, and so my LDs are usually quite vivid. I'm not sure if WILDs are more, less or the same vividness as I've never had one; but I would say that the key to a vivid LD is a good dream recall.

When it comes to a sensation of "realness" I have three categories of LDs.

The first, most common type of LD feels vaguely unreal. It is often this sensation that clues me in to the fact that I'm dreaming. Yes I have strong sensations of touch, heat, cold, taste, smell, etc. But it all seems just a little bit strange.

The second type are the LDs that feel "ultra" real. It is kind of hard to describe. It all feels real, just more intense. When I dream about food or sex it is usually this kind of dream.

The third type, which are rare for me, are the LDs that feel absolutely normal. Everything feels just like waking life, as far as I can tell.

When I wake up from a dream, if I don't do something that helps me remember it, the memory (and the sensations from the dream) rapidly fade. However, if I write down some notes about the dream as soon as I wake up from it the memory (and sensations) stay clear in my mind. I am able to remember it as well as I recall things from waking life.

Originally Posted by LuxAeterna

Did it get better over time, or is it just totally random? Are there influencing factors, techniques, perhaps?

A lot of it's random, but usually dreams I have in the 5:00-7:00AM range are clearer and less detatched

Originally Posted by Jules2007

The last LD I had however was pretty real- probably because it was a FILD not just a DILD so it was far more stable and vivid and I remember thinking how everything was so real and true to life in my house. It still wasn't as real as real life though- well the dream was, but the memory of it wasn't if that makes sense

It does make sense. That is exactly what I'm talking about. It's like when you wake up all your left with is the aftertaste of the dream.

Originally Posted by Scarred_for_life

A lot of it's random, but usually dreams I have in the 5:00-7:00AM range are clearer and less detatched

After how much sleep?

-Lux

I really think that you have no control what so ever, you just think you do.

Some people have the same theory on waking life. It's called determinism. Doesn't mean either you or them are correct.

Oh, was about to start a thread on this.

Very, VERY real since I started taking a new supplement cocktail. This afternoon I had an LD, a nice one which lasted for a long time, woke up and had another one, but I was tricked into thinking it was real, because I was UNABLE to wake up, and everything looked just like in real life, no noticable weird dream processes like going from one place to a completely different place (for example, from my bathroom to my school=)

When I have Lucid Dreams they always tend to feel so real that I forget there is such thing as the physical world. I like watching my dreams in third person though because I tend to always have good story lines in my dreams.

They are as realistic as walking life. End on all realistic-ness threads..

I LD quite frequently and easily... at least that's what I thought.
However, as more and more of these occur, I am beginning to doubt that I am lucid dreaming at all. I feel very disconnected from them, like I am having a dream about having a dream in which I am lucid, if that makes sense. The decisions I make after realizing I'm lucid often make very little sense, and even when then do, something feels a little wrong about them.

Some LDs for me have been so real that I wasn't sure for the rest of the day if I actually woke up or not. This is especially entertaining when you've got an LD inside an LD.