where people practise AP.. some people say they have done it since childhood.. |
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Can you explane: |
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where people practise AP.. some people say they have done it since childhood.. |
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In very many cases, the visionary quality, the quality of the vision so to say, spills over, into the external world, so that the experiencer, when he opens his eyes, sees the outer world transfigured...
Some say? |
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you do what you want groffse, but AS and meditation aren't strictly for religeous purposes. just because you're christian doesn't mean you can't explore your own mind, or be at peace for that matter. |
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lol i didn't see the next page. it's good that you're open minded at least, and you're doing research to see what suits you, but again some people use it for "spirituality" and some just use it to explore. |
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To my mind, neither AP or LD is religious, it's simply spiritual. |
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Last edited by Writermind; 06-20-2008 at 07:07 PM.
I bet primitive man naturally experienced lding and AP long before spiritual and religious concepts were considered, or even before we had the capacity to contemplate a higher power. |
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Last edited by lucid4sho; 06-20-2008 at 08:34 PM.
"If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa
I don't want to attack here, but using music is very effective for some people's meditations as is evidenced by Mr. Redd's experience. Further, you don't have to to be sitting upright to meditate. Most meditation books say that you can meditate laying down, but sitting upright is more effective. There are so many ways to meditate and I would like to commend Mr. Redd on what sounds like an incredibly moving personal experience. |
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Meditation is not religous. It stems from many religions and you can find the history yourself but meditation at its base is simply a mind exercise. It doesn't require belief in any religous area whatsoever. |
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lucid4sho, what kind of mantra do you mean? like a sentence repeated over and over? i try to repeat to myself "calm. sleep" and poicture the words in front of my closed eyes. Is that right? So far, it doesnt work for anything but calming me down :\ |
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i'm almost certain that a mantra can be anything you want it to be. the words hold no significance, it's just to keep your mind away from distractions, as i understand it. |
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Exactly what forgotten said. It takes awhile to see the benefits of mantra in your dreams. One pointedness meditation calms and centers your vision and mantra does the same for your thoughts. When your thoughts and vision are centered its easier to perceive dreams and become lucid. |
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"If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa
Thank you Nightmare it was very exciting. I like to listen to godspeed! you black emporer it is kind of like orchstral experimental? Tough to explain, but very calming. |
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Don't worry mate, some Christians have been meditating for centuries, its not all mumbo jumbo. |
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