Thread: Was It A Lucid Dream? Ask Here!

One problem.... If our noobs have never been to the forum before, how are they going to find this?

Well, the hope is that such new members will have read up on lucid dreaming enough to know the definition of the term, but of course there will be those who are a little excited and just jump right in with their questions. I imagine with the amount of activity regarding those topics I keep seeing, this topic won't be disappearing into the forum's past topics for a while.

I don't know if this is considered an important enough topic to get pinned/stickied, to ensure it doesn't get lost, considering it's such a simple question to have answered, but that would be one more answer to how this would be found by the new members: when the go into the Lucid Experiences board, this will be in there for them to find.

And one more thing, this should pop up in a search of topics, so assuming users are following the rules about searching before posting on such matters, this will likely be a catchall for most of the future threads asking the question.

no, this is ridiculous!
who are you to tell people if they have a lucid dream or not?
if they already know the definition, then they should know if they have a lucid dream or not.
it's funny, because if you say in a dream "oh I'm dreaming, I know I am in my bed" and the dream becomes a bit more vivid, and you start to control the dream a bit by flying and all of those things....IT'S DOESN'T NECESARILY MEANS THAT YOU REALLY KNOW YOU ARE DREAMING!
often newbies experience this and say "was this a lucid?"
WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT MY FRIEND!!!
they are the only who can answer that, already knowing the definition...
Dreams can have any plot, even the plot can be about you "knowing" you are dreaming, and wanting to wake up. the problem is knowing how to diferentiate between the plot of the dream, and the conscious decisions!

now, we must answer this, to them:

"¿did you KNOW you where dreaming? it's doesn't matter what you said, what you done, what matters is what you KNEW."

when they have this doubt: "was this a lucid?" the most probably answer is NO.
because if you don't know what happened, we can't answer you this because we are not YOU, even if we are in your mind, we can't tell you if you were lucid or not, because the only who can answer that is the dreamer!

If you say "I am dreaming," and you really are dreaming, your most likely lucid. If the dream world becomes clearer and you start to fly, your lucid. End of story.

Originally Posted by YYNYM

If you say "I am dreaming," and you really are dreaming, your most likely lucid. If the dream world becomes clearer and you start to fly, your lucid. End of story.

Not necessarily. I've had many dreams where I've made the declaration that I'm dreaming, but never actually become conscious of my Dream. Its only a Lucid Dream if you (Ego) know you're dreaming. It isn't lucid simply because your dream self/character/representation (Id) states it.

Only when you are conscious of the fact that you are Dreaming. A statement is merely words. Its the experience that dictates a lucid dream.

Did you know you were dreaming? Yes. It was Lucid.
Did you know you were Dreaming? No. It was not.

Originally Posted by Mariano

no, this is ridiculous!
who are you to tell people if they have a lucid dream or not?
if they already know the definition, then they should know if they have a lucid dream or not.
it's funny, because if you say in a dream "oh I'm dreaming, I know I am in my bed" and the dream becomes a bit more vivid, and you start to control the dream a bit by flying and all of those things....IT'S DOESN'T NECESARILY MEANS THAT YOU REALLY KNOW YOU ARE DREAMING!
often newbies experience this and say "was this a lucid?"
WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT MY FRIEND!!!
they are the only who can answer that, already knowing the definition...
Dreams can have any plot, even the plot can be about you "knowing" you are dreaming, and wanting to wake up. the problem is knowing how to diferentiate between the plot of the dream, and the conscious decisions!

now, we must answer this, to them:

"¿did you KNOW you where dreaming? it's doesn't matter what you said, what you done, what matters is what you KNEW."

when they have this doubt: "was this a lucid?" the most probably answer is NO.
because if you don't know what happened, we can't answer you this because we are not YOU, even if we are in your mind, we can't tell you if you were lucid or not, because the only who can answer that is the dreamer!

Wait, so you proved the point of this topic? You're pretty silly, Mariano. I mean, you said that being in control and saying you're dreaming isn't enough to be lucid - that you have to actually KNOW you're dreaming. Well, if you would actually take the time to read posts instead of jumping on them and accusing them of things they never said, you just may have seen that in my original post, I explicitly used the Wikipedia and Dictionary.com definitions of lucid dreaming, both of which say that you have to be aware that you're dreaming, not that saying it was a prerequisite, not that having control was a prerequisite.

And, that's what this topic is here for. For those who just haven't figured out that lucidity is based upon whether or not you know you're dreaming, or may have forgotten it, or are just not quite sure one way or another, that's what this topic is for. Did that help you understand what I said better? If not, it's right up at the top of the topic.

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Not necessarily. I've had many dreams where I've made the declaration that I'm dreaming, but never actually become conscious of my Dream. Its only a Lucid Dream if you (Ego) know you're dreaming. It isn't lucid simply because your dream self/character/representation (Id) states it.

Only when you are conscious of the fact that you are Dreaming. A statement is merely words. Its the experience that dictates a lucid dream.

Did you know you were dreaming? Yes. It was Lucid.
Did you know you were Dreaming? No. It was not.

Couldn't have explained it better myself.

Wow.

I think it's a good idea, actually.

Lots of people post threads asking if their dreams were lucid or not, because sometimes dreams are complicated.
I think this is a good idea for a thread.

Thanks Clyde.

I like this thread, a lot.

oh man, yes, weird, because I already read the whole topic.
oh sorry =P.

but exobyte explains it perfectly.

Originally Posted by Mariano

oh man, yes, weird, because I already read the whole topic.
oh sorry =P.

but exobyte explains it perfectly.

'Sall good, man.

hmm, interesting thread, especially exobyte's post considering I recently had a dream where I tried to RC, didn't work so I RC'd again maybe a minute later and declared that I am dreaming at which point I teleported out of the place and then lost my lucidity. In comparison to my first LD, I didn't get the same conscious feeling though, so, I assumed that it was a moment of lucidity, since, I was able to just teleport out, however, the camera got stuck after the teleportation

Yeah but sometimes it is difficult to clarify. I mean, sometimes your dream ego thinks your dreaming, as you're sort of passively observing him/her thinking that, but whether YOU think it and realise its a dream version of you is different.

I actually had 2 last night, in the same dream where I gained and lost lucidity (after waking up from one dream STILL IN MY DREAM, I dreamed I wrote in my DJ and went back to sleep, and had another one...). I had WILDed IN MY DREAM to produce a lucid dream my dream ego dreamt. Then I woke up for real, and looked at my DJ ready to expand on some of the notes, but it wasn't there. Still, I recorded it, but I'm pretty sure I was lucid, and I fought to control the dreams. I flew too, and was more awesome than normal as I was consciously trying it with a 3-jump-method and got pretty high...usually, when I'm non-lucid, I struggle for height, then sorta float down.

Anyways, enough rambling...good idea for a thread, though.