Thread: US officials: Core al-Qaida 'essentially gone'

As long as muslims exist, this problem with terror won't diminish. We need to fight the root cause.

Treat the disease, not the symptoms.

Originally Posted by Fechtel

As long as muslims exist, this problem with terror won't diminish. We need to fight the root cause.

Treat the disease, not the symptoms.

I agree.

We need to kill Allah.

So what is this "war on terror" for? US started war in the name of "war on terror", that terrorists is Al Qaeda.

Now after ten years, Al Qaeda is still in Afghanistan.

There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq (Saddam's regime). After US' invasion, there were Al Qaeda everywhere in Iraq to bombing the people. Now US withdraws from Iraq, Al Qaeda is still there.

There was no Al Qaeda heard in Gaddafi's Libya, now Al Qaeda is a force liberated Libya.

There was no Al Qaeda heard in Syria too, now it becomes part force of Syria opposition.

Al Qaeda now is everywhere in Mid-east. It becomes stronger and stronger and works with US interest.

Tell me what is this "war on terror" for? After ten years.

Originally Posted by katsung47

Tell me what is this "war on terror" for?

Oil and expansion of an already burgeoning empire of military bases.

Originally Posted by DV Paperboy

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A year after the Navy SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaida that carried out the Sept. 11 attacks is essentially gone but its affiliates remain a threat to America, U.S. counterterrorist officials say....

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This is a lie. Al Qaeda are everywhere once US is in need.

German Intelligence: "al-Qaeda" All Over Syria

2012-07-25




By John Rosenthal

German intelligence estimates that "around 90" terror attacks that "can be attributed to organizations that are close to al-Qaeda or jihadist groups" were carried out in Syria between the end of December and the beginning of July, as reported by the German daily Die Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ). This was revealed by the German government in a response to a parliamentary question.

German Intelligence: "al-Qaeda" All Over Syria

Germany is in America. Good one.

Originally Posted by Xei

Germany is in America. Good one.

Texas to be precise

Core al-Qaida 'essentially gone' ? Gimmick: Bin Laden's death

When Pentagon admits it has no photo evidence of Bin Laden's death. I wonder what those high ranking government officials were watching in situation room? Was it just another gimmick to fool people?

　


Pentagon admits it has no photo evidence of Bin Laden's death Special
　
Elliott By Elliott Freeman
May 1, 2012 - yesterday in Politics

　
Pentagon officials recently disclosed to the Associated Press (AP) that they could not find any photo or video evidence to confirm that Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden was killed in the Navy Seal raid in Pakistan a year ago.

AP has submitted more than 20 requests for information surrounding the raid on Bin Laden’s Abbottabad compound to the U.S. Government under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

In response to the request for visual evidence of Bin Laden’s death, the Pentagon stated that it could not find any pictures or video footage of the raid itself or of Bin Laden’s dead body. It also told AP it could not locate any images of Bin Laden’s body that were taken on the U.S.S. Carl Vinson, the Navy aircraft carrier that reportedly lowered him into the sea after his death.

In addition, the Pentagon admitted that it could not find an autopsy report, death certificate or results of a DNA identification test for Bin Laden, in spite of claims made by President Obama and reported by CBC News that a DNA test was performed.

Read more: Pentagon admits it has no photo evidence of Bin Laden's death (Includes interview)

Bin Laden denied involving in 911 attack. That’s conflict to what US says. So they wouldn’t let him go alive. Bin Laden died soon after 911.

Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
Published December 26, 2001

FoxNews.com

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader

Read more: Report: Bin Laden Already Dead | Fox News

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Has Osama Bin Laden been dead for seven years - and are the U.S. and Britain covering it up to continue war on terror?

By Sue Reid 11 September 2009

Read more: Has Osama Bin Laden been dead for seven years - and are the U.S. and Britain covering it up to continue war on terror? | Mail Online

Bin Laden died ten years ago. He was an important witness of 911 attack. Bin Laden denied he involved in 911 attack. It was conflict to US government theory. So they wouldn’t let him alive.
Proof Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11; 3 simple points
blueridge
Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:52
75.109.16.198
1. Usama Bin Laden's absolute, unequivocal, immediate denial in Pakistan press after he was blamed:

“I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people…
...What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United States? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. " --Osama bin Laden interview with Ummat, 28 September 2001

Sources: Ummat, Urdu-language daily newspaper based in Karachi, Pakistan - Friday, 28 September 2001 - pages 1, 7. - Source: BBC Monitoring Service
Bin Laden: AUTHENTIC INTERVIEW
[this writer found it shortly after, along with others, and retained original links to Ummat's article to this day]


2. The government's spurious video evidence, claiming that he "boasted" (while he denied it above):

“It’s bogus,” says Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s Religious Studies program.

The video is further examined here:
Proof that Bin Laden had no links with 9/11 and the Bin Laden tape is a hoax! (Video) « Ahmed Ismail

3. The testimony of the FBI:

a) The FBI "Mosted Wanted" terrorist poster on Bin Laden does not show that he is "wanted" for 9/11. FBI — USAMA BIN LADEN

b) and here is what they have stated:

“The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”

--Rex Tomb, FBI spokesman, in interview with Muckraker Report

[Muckraker also did a follow up article in further confirmation]

The FBI is well informed of the video (proves Muckraker Report), but, nonetheless, still considers that there is "no hard evidence" to connect Bin Laden with 9/11. Thus again, the video cannot be considered said evidence.

There is therefore no sustainable evidence except politically-convenient allegation and propaganda, to make such a false and spurious claim. This also kills the idea of Al Qaeda which they claim also was connected directly with Bin Laden. The BBC documentary "Power of Nightmares" documents that Al Qaeda was "an invention" of the U.S. government, and that videos of Bin Laden "were faked for the western media", with "militants" called in for the purpose.


Quote, "SO WHY DOES THE MEDIA, GOVERNMENT, AND OFFICIALS ALL TALK AS IF THIS IS A PROVEN "FACT"? ONLY BECAUSE IT IS POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT TO DO SO, TO CONTROL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND FOREIGN POLICY AND THE RESTRUCTURING OF AMERICA'S GOVERNMENT AWAY FROM CONSTITUTIONAL RESTRAINTS.

LOL.

Bin laden didn't die 10 years ago.

Man people believe anything they read online.

I get all my news from "Pakistan Observer"

LOL

They kept Bin Laden alive because they needed a false flag for their “war on terror” so they could keep on asking money and power from people.
In 2011, the US decided to start war on Iran. Like they justify the Iraq and Afghan war with 911 attack, they needed a similar “terror attack” to justify war on Iran. They created “Operation Geronimo” to justify a “nuke terror attack” in the name of “Al Qaeda revenge for Bin Laden’s death”.
Al Qaida seems to have access to the toppest secret of US government. They knew "kill Bin Laden Operation" in advance.

Quote, "

Al-Qaeda Threatens to Unleash ‘Nuclear Hellstorm’ if bin Laden Caught

Posted by Ingrid Turner on Apr 25, 2011

Guantanamo Bay, Cuba (NEWSTABULOUS) – According to news reported by WikiLeaks, threats have been received from al-Qaeda terrorists, stating that they will “unleash a nuclear hellstorm” upon Western countries if Osama bin Laden is ever caught or killed.

http://newstabulous.com/al-qaeda-thr...n-caught/9761/

WikiLeaks: Al-Qaida Has Nuclear Weapons
Author: ICWN | Monday, April 25th, 2011


The militant group al-Qaeda claims to have nuclear weapons and did not hesitate to use them if their leader, Osama bin Laden captured or killed by the United States. Not yet known exactly where al-Qaeda’s nuclear weapons are stored, but are found in Europe.


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Five days before May 1st, Wikileaks and Al Qaida knew of “Bin Laden’s death” would have happened and announced a warning. The news is a clumsy product of the “disinformation office” of the Feds. It means:

1. Al Qaida have nuclear weapon. They haven’t used it because Bin Laden hadn’t been caught or killed.
2. Wikileaks and Al Qaida knew Bin Laden would be killed several days later so issued a warning.

Al Qaida are so powerful that they knew everything, have everything and can do everything even though they are chased from the cave to cave, because they have the Magic Lantern of Alladin. They always come out in time when the Feds need them. They activated 911 attack to help justify Mid-east war. This time, will they have a nuke attack to justify war on Iran?

Is there anything you read online that you don't believe?

From time to time, the government release different edition of story. Should they have a report after each mission? Or they have no ability to describe an event?
This is another cover up effort. When you argue which one was the truth, you fell into the trap that they want you to believe - that Bin Laden was dead in a corpse less Operation and picture less case even though he died ten years ago already.

Navy SEAL on Bin Laden Raid Speaks Out
By LEE FERRAN and LUIS MARTINEZ | ABC News – Wed, Aug 29, 2012.

The reported account appears to differ from earlier versions of the raid given by U.S. officials, including that of White House spokesperson Jay Carney, that the SEALs had entered the room before bin Laden was shot, that one of bin Laden's wives charged the SEALs and that bin Laden had "resisted" before he was killed, even if he was unarmed.

Navy SEAL on Bin Laden Raid Speaks Out - Yahoo! News

So you believe everything you hear online, gotcha.

I'm sure Bush was holding onto Bin Ladens corpse so his political opponents could use it.

Makes perfect sense..

All the SEAL did was expose that the raid didn't go as planned. Not that Bin Laden was dead 10 years ago.. foolio.

Originally Posted by DeathCell

All the SEAL did was expose that the raid didn't go as planned. Not that Bin Laden was dead 10 years ago.. foolio.

Seal is only a tool of the insider group. They died twice for this cheating operation.

Seals died on crash in May 1 "Operation Geronimo". So no one could prove there was no Bin laden killing in that operation.

The rest of seal team 6 unit who knew their missing fellows were dead in another helicoptor crash a few weeks later in Afghanistan. So no one could prove the team 6 who joined "Operation Geronimo" were missing. (died in helicoptor crash)

All witnesses died in two helicoptor crashes. Cleaned all trace of a fake "kill Bin Laden" hoax.




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August 6, 2011 5:11 AM
22 Navy SEALs dead in Afghan chopper crash

KABUL, Afghanistan -- A helicopter crash in Afghanistan's eastern Wardak province has killed 30 U.S. special operation troops and seven Afghan soldiers, the country's president said on Saturday.
More than 20 U.S. special operations forces killed, most of them Navy SEALs, according to CBS News correspondent David Martin in Washington.

22 Navy SEALs dead in Afghan chopper crash - CBS News

Originally Posted by katsung47

Seal is only a tool of the insider group. They died twice for this cheating operation.

Seals died on crash in May 1 "Operation Geronimo". So no one could prove there was no Bin laden killing in that operation.

The rest of seal team 6 unit who knew their missing fellows were dead in another helicoptor crash a few weeks later in Afghanistan. So no one could prove the team 6 who joined "Operation Geronimo" were missing. (died in helicoptor crash)

All witnesses died in two helicoptor crashes. Cleaned all trace of a fake "kill Bin Laden" hoax.




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August 6, 2011 5:11 AM
22 Navy SEALs dead in Afghan chopper crash

KABUL, Afghanistan -- A helicopter crash in Afghanistan's eastern Wardak province has killed 30 U.S. special operation troops and seven Afghan soldiers, the country's president said on Saturday.
More than 20 U.S. special operations forces killed, most of them Navy SEALs, according to CBS News correspondent David Martin in Washington.

22 Navy SEALs dead in Afghan chopper crash - CBS News

Omg.. All you people say the same damn stuff on repeat. Misinformation spreads fast. None of the Seals that died in the chopper were a part of the mission that took out Bin Laden. So go crawl back into your den of paranoia where everyone is out to get you, lurking around every corner to control every aspect of world events. Amazing..... that people still believe whatever they read without fact checking.. when will humanity learn and embrace reason?

Originally Posted by DeathCell

Omg.. All you people say the same damn stuff on repeat. Misinformation spreads fast. None of the Seals that died in the chopper were a part of the mission that took out Bin Laden. So go crawl back into your den of paranoia where everyone is out to get you, lurking around every corner to control every aspect of world events. Amazing..... that people still believe whatever they read without fact checking.. when will humanity learn and embrace reason?

And you want people to believe you? For what sake?

OSAMA KILL MISSION BY US NAVY SEALS: AN EYE WITNESS ACCOUNT
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by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts / Jeff Prager

This is a translation of the video linked at the bottom and was translated by my friend Khan Taashk. THANK YOU my dear friend. I wish there were a way for ALL Americans to read this translation.
Anchor: Welcome back, Mohammad Bashir is a resident of Abbootabad’s Bilal Town. Muhammad Bashir might seem an ordinary guy but he is no ordinary guy. Muhammad Bashir lives in front of Osama Ben Laden’s house in Bilal Town Abbottabad. On 2nd of May, Muhammad Bashir was present on his rooftop from where he saw the whole American operation against Osama Ben Laden with his own eyes. Yesterday when our team was present In Bilal Town, Abbottabad, near Osama Ben Laden’s house, Muhammad Bashir came to us and said, “Sister, I need to tell you something, something that is a burden on my heart and soul”, just listen to what he said.

Anchor: Muhammad Bashir told us something that no one said before. So we checked his identity card, we also onfirmed that he really lives there, we asked from the senior fellows about him. We were very astonished by his story just see and listen what he said.

Bashir: We were awake, not asleep, a helicopter came, some men came down from that, into that house, then that helicopter went away.

Reporter: How many men?

Bashir: 10-12, then that helicopter took rounds of those rear hills, then he came bac…k and when he came bach, two more helicopters arrived, one from the west and other from the north, there was a blast in the first helicopter and it was on fire, we immediately came out, when we reached there, the helicopter was burning, then after about 20 minutes the army and police arrived, they pushed us back, now we are asking that if Osama was here then who took him to America because all those men that came in the helicopter died in the blast, now if Osama was in that helicopter he must have died and got burnt in that helicopter too, then how they took him? This is a question of serious concern. America claims they they killed him and picked him up. How they picked him up? This is what we are thinking .

Reporter: Was there only one helicopter?

Bashir? Yes the other that came, flew away to Mansehra, there was only one that landed the men and came back to pick them but as he was picking them up, it blew away and caught fire.

Reporter: Then they were in it when it blew?

Bashir: Yes They were.
Reporeter : How you know?

Bashir: We saw it with our own eyes
Reporter: You saw dead man?

Bashir: Yes, dead men,

Reporter: How many?
Bashir: I couldnt count them because then the compound was on fire. The gate was open, we went in, the army and police hadnt arrived then, there were some people but they werent stopping them. The whole neighbourhood has seen that but they are silent now.

Bashir: We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing

The real story behind the so-called bin laden raid/ killing « Wonders of Pakistan

Look more stuff having nothing to do with some secret plot to kill the people involved in the raid omgz

They killed a local Pakistan resident, said it was Bin Laden.

That's Not Osama bin Laden, That's My Neighbour

Bin Laden denied involvement in 911 in the interview. US mainstream media censored this news.

The Osama bin Laden Myth

Paul Craig Roberts
November 26, 2012|

The interview below with Osama bin Laden was conducted by the Karachi, Pakistan, daily newspaper, Ummat and published on September 28, 2001, 17 days after the alleged, but unsubstantiated, al Qaeda attack of September 11, 2001, on the World Trade Center twin towers and Pentagon. The interview was sensational. The alleged “mastermind” of 9/11 said that he and al Qaeda had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack. The British Broadcasting Corporation’s World Monitoring Service had the interview translated into English and made public on September 29, 2001.

Osama bin Laden’s sensational denial was not reported by the US print and TV media. It was not investigated by the executive branch. No one in the US Congress called attention to bin Laden’s refusal of responsibility for the greatest humiliation ever inflicted on a superpower.

To check my memory of the lack of coverage, I googled “Osama bin Laden’s interview denying responsibility for 9/11.” Some Internet sites reproduced the interview, but the only mainstream news source that I found was a 1 minute YouTube video from CNN in which the anchor, after quoting an al Jazeera report of bin Laden’s denial, concludes that “we can all weigh that in the scale of credibility and come to our own conclusions.” In other words, bin Laden had already been demonized, and his denial was not credible.

The sensational news was unfit for US citizens and was withheld from them by the american “free press,” a press free to lie for the government but not to tell the truth.

The Osama bin Laden Myth - PaulCraigRoberts.org

Wow you believe everything you read huh?

Osama bin Laden corpse photo is fake

Image of bloodied man picked up by British newspapers has been circulating online for two years

guardian.co.uk, Monday 2 May 2011
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...-to-sh-004.jpg

An image purporting to show Osama bin Laden's bloody corpse, right, is a composite of two separate images, left and centre. Photograph: twitpic


An image apparently showing a dead Osama bin Laden broadcast on Pakistani television and picked up by British newspaper websites is a fake.

Osama bin Laden corpse photo is fake | World news | guardian.co.uk

...That photo has been known to be a fake since at least a few days after the White House announced they kill OBL. It's a hilariously bad photoshop too.