Thread: The Source of Consciousness

Heavy stuff, man, heavy stuff...

Thanks for that Awaken. Although its the same stuff that's been around for thousands of years with a new technological twist, if it helps someone jump-start their awareness of who they are, I'm all for it!

There's much much more science behind it than I ever thought I can't wait for it to happen. It's gonna be something like, but infinitely better than, the most amazing lucid dream any of us have ever had. Imagine a stable world with absolutely no limits? We could keep our physical form, but knowing this is a holographic projection of our minds, we could essentially go to the source and change anything we want on a whim. It's all about frequency. When we become One our frequency rises, and a new world takes shape. Essentially, a new dimension. The 5th dimension, I'd call it...That's where we have fluid objects and one collective mind. But we're being forced down by another aspect of Oneness which is the darkest force imagineable. We're polarized, creating a specific wavelength, which powers another wavelength in order for this "Matrix" to exist. So in order to get past this, we must all remember our connection to the collective mind. Then we fall back into the ocean of consciousness and become all-knowing as we once were, but because of an inherent contradiction in consciousness, we are ABLE to be made to believe something to be real, even though it's not! It's literally hypnotism! It's a non-lucid dream, just on a stable frequency! Come on let's just give this a shot, people! Even if it sounds crazy, try it. I've only been on this for a month and my life is 1000% better internally, and it's already filtering into my day-to-day life. It's like I have a navigator. Listen near the end for his description on how to actually put this stuff into motion. It doesn't fix your whole life in a day but it really opens your eyes and explains many philosophical, religions, political, social and personal problems easily and scientifically. Anyway yeah, definitely worth a listen

My friend coined the term "perceptual dynamics", god I think that is the most perfect description for this phenomonon.

Hi awaken,

I just listened to the recording and have some comments. As you have proberly figured I am a total beliver in this school of thought and believe every mr Icke says is or could be true, however at the risk of sounding pessemistic I do not believe we as "cultured" human awareness are at the level that would recalibrate the scope of reality universally.

I have my reasons for saying this as the geometical construct of "reality" is not merely a human experience but something that is enforced by all levels of life no matter how great or small. Given the diversity of creatures that walk this earth and their total suscription to the rationality and complete utility of this world I dont know if it is something the coginition of humans alone can set in motion.

Another thing is that we are for the moment transient beings, our dna encoding into us a limit of time and space to inhabit this "experience" and may well in the state of death, be reborn or liberalated into the realm of inorganic existence.

If we struggle now just to attain lucidity in dreamstates you can understand just how much harder the disipline of a metaphyics as a sole reality is to swallow in consciousness.

I truely believe we are capable of what he describes are we capable of anything but the universal consciousness at its current level may take at least another millienium in order to break our chains of physicality.

The seeds to this future lay in our children as infants are much like a sponge in their adaptability to outside infuence. You could say we are born into bondage merely by the aparatus we are given. We can only percieve energy and cognition in visual or audiological terms, and are yet limited in terms of psi-conic activity. Such senses are intergral to understanding and thus acheiving universality. And not to mention should be treated with caution and respect, attaining truth and not madness can be a perilous path to tread. Sadly polarity has in it's capacity the plausability of infinite hate as well as love.

I look forward to reading his book and his suggestions of how to break the geometical constructs of our dual existence. In the meantime I would suggest enjoying the experience? Being an individual entity in a sea of existence can make for endless possibilities of creation, and we are more then capable with the faculities we have to create. And that great ball of energy out there is enjoying our experiences, let me tell you.

Great inspiration though, very enjoyable. The scientific scope and explanation is fresh new material I will have to look into. They say crop circles are just the symbloic nature of our dna expressing itself? Maybe one day we will have the scope and intellegence to know.

LB

Thanks for the comments and mostly I agree.

The thing I disagree on is the time span in which this will all turn around. You say a millennium, I say 20 years. Ever heard of the law of accelerating returns? It basically outlines how certain processes accelerate on an exponential scale as to their complexity. The most prominent and demonstratable is the world of technology. 15 years ago progress by todays standards was extremely slow, and today it is "exploding". Imagine 5 years from now in relation to 5 years ago! The same law applies to how we understand our world, and huge changes are happening already. This thing is gonna happen in our lifetimes. Once global consciousness has been reached (beginning of the Internet pretty much kick-started this), things start happening, and only speed up as time goes on.

The other thing was about a full-on metaphysical understanding taking a long time to implement. To this I also say it isn't that difficult. People are waking up to it by the day all over the world. The world is ready to support this "new" reality, and there are enough people in the right state of mind for it to work, but the resistance is too great as of yet. The switch will be a tedious process but I believe the only reason it seems so difficult right now is because of humanity's ignorance to it, and the continued pressure to put matter over mind. Think about going to another country where the language is foreign to you. At first it seems overwhelming. After a couple years you should be conversing fairly fluently. I'd imagine the same thing would apply to our concept of reality. If we just have the tools available, it's easy as hot apple pie

Thanks again for the comments!

I think you have to deconstruct the processes involved in unilateral intergration. What changes would we have to undergo to exist in such a manner? Intergration is not totally compatable with duality. So, to intergrate, what does this mean for our own indivuality? If we are required to dissolve, or worse even, share indivuality, the ramifications are staggering. If it requires sacrificing barriers that protect us at an interpersonal level, our privacy is privy to total violation. Our most secret thoughts are no longer sacred. If we are talking about a total cultural revolution, only the refined process of evolution may eventually place us in a situation where we can again obtain the state of total oneness which spawned our existence. And when that happens we will have gone full circle.

Did you know that in the distant past, certain cultures, namely south American, placed great emphasis on metaphysical exploration. So called sorcerers of antiquity were so advanced and enraptured in inorganic life, that they eventually lost the totality of their existence into these great voids of energy and consciousness they were exploring. Following on the legacy of such great talents, modern day decendants are much more cynical about surrendering their individuality over to such power. The idea was to observe as much of their metaphysical origins as is possible, without being fully consumed by them.


We live in a world of absolutes created by inpenatratable modern logic, and seek security in such ideals, when in reality there is only one absolute, one that invalidates every other conception of empericalism or truth. Like you said, this a deceptive path we follow, confined by prisons of our own creation. Logical positivism is a constrictive and deabiliting prospect - one only modern man has the audicity to propose. Things like this are detrimental to the overall cause. I only hope the technological results of such strict and rigourous scientific thought can somehow be used as tools to enlighten the greater consciousness of mankind to their origins. But many things need to be shed. Human ignorance in religion, arrogance in knowledge, and ineptitude in perception, and adulteration in materialism are embedded at institutional levels.

I hope I am wrong, though. When you think of the big bang and the way inert matter went within seconds to accelerate the creation of an entire universe. Well, that is a staggering exponential force, and makes me hopeful as well. While we are not as devine as the will of nature, each of us as a fractional hologram of the whole has the will to recreate the true nature of our existence. that it is possible is enough for me. I dont believe there is need for any haste. In the 60's the space race capivated us that the universe was within a fingertips reach. We now know today that it is not as accessable as we would once think. We just know that it is out there in its entirety. The mystery is simply part of the package.

You are a wise cookie, perhaps too wise

I understand what you're saying about all that, I just think it's all going to turn around in a generation. I don't think most people would want to keep secrets to themselves. Deep down I believe people want others to know their secrets. I know I do. I wish I could walk out in the streets and say exactly who I am and what my interests are. But unfortunately in a prejudiced society I would be called insane, I'd have the poo beaten out of me, or I'd even be killed. Nothing wrong with me, just a very biased view is pervasive in our so-called "civilized" world. Once people realize how beautiful of a thing it is to be all-knowing, and it only takes a simple choice, they will be elevated to that spiritual level, gradually but surely. Perhaps it will get better and better over the millennium you talk about, but I truly believe that the major transformation is happening right now, and will be happening in the next decade or two. The world is going to go through huge huge changes in our lifetimes, and we will witness things we never thought possible. Doors will open, as I talked about, exponentially. Possibilities will flood the collective subconscious and we will be reconnected with the grand spirit of all-knowing. All it takes is realizing that this is all a trick of the mind, nothing more. It's no more complicated than seeing a picture in a Magic Eye book or an optical illusion, and recognizing it as such It's the nature of consciousness, and the scheme which holds us apart is violently trying to keep from a fiery death. But it's nearly over. Some bloodshed and a bad motive, but the other side is unlimited freedom of expression and eternal bliss for those who choose it. Sounds worth it.