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      The T.V. Controls us all

      The purpose of this thread is to discuss how the T.V. controlls us all, and how we bend to the wishes of this new media culture. Of all the news you watch 80% of the facts have been misprinted, mislabled, or the FACTS HAVE BEEN ALTERED.

      I think the media and marketing industries are brainwashing us...we are now buying rediculous stuff we DO NOT NEED. I understand luxury's and all, but this is going way too far.

      To quote the movie Fight Club: "The things you own, end up owning you"
      It is an amazing move, i suggest everyone watch it a few times at least.

      And finally to quote Incubus, from the CD S.C.I.E.N.C.E.

      "Idiot Box"

      You keep your riches and I'll sew my stitches,
      you can't make me think like you, mundane.
      I've got a message for all those who think that
      they can etch his words inside my brain

      T.V., what do I need?
      Tell me who to believe!
      What's the use of autonomy
      when a button does it all?

      So listen up,
      glisten up closely all,
      who've seen the fuckin eye ache too.
      It's time to step away from cable train
      And when we finally see the subtle light,
      this quirk in evolution will begin
      to let us live and recreate

      T.V., what do I need?
      Tell me who to believe!
      Whats the use of autonomy
      when a button does it all?

      T.V., what should I see?
      Tell me who should I be?
      Lets do our mom a favor and drop
      a new god off a wall.

      Let me see past the fatuous knocks.
      I've gotta rid myself of this idiot box!
      Let you see past the feathers and flocks,
      and help me plant a bomb in this idiot box!
      From the depths of the sea
      to the tops of the trees
      to the seat of a lazy boy...
      staring at a silver screen!!
      "i am the crumpled sheets of paper behind an artists' attempt at perfection"


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      wow 80%...
      You guys suck.

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      kill your tv. -- survivor. fear factor. the real world. the newly weds. ALL SHIT. south park pumps it's propaganda into every episode. cnn. abc. nbc. cbs. fox. mtv. ALL SHIT. do yourself a favor and kill your tv. listen to talk radio... they at least stick to the "down to earth" issues, while giving you a heads up on what bias is talking. on tv you have to sift through the shit, you have to understand motives... sports are ok though seriously, you can't get a bias baseball game... you can get bias announcers... but the game is the game.

      *holds fist in the air* fight the man! kill your tv!
      clear eyes. strong hands.

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      Never!!!! *grabs tv and glances around nervously*
      You guys suck.

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      I've stopped watching TV, simple as that.

      It's subliminal suggestion. If you're told to do something enough times you will do it.

      "You change the channel and you change their minds."

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      I've stopped watching it, save for every now and then. It's amazingly addictive, and I don't even turn it on anymore. Programming is funner anyway. (And more productive!)

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      I dont really watch too much t.v either... I'll catch a few Simpsons eps. every now and then, but more movies and my beloved Naruto.
      Wanna play a joke on your chiropractor? The next time he starts working on you, go limp and soil yourself.
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      Great! I'm not alone! I though I was the only person, who wasnt watching TV in the past couple of years.

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      Dont watch much TV either..
      "You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection."
      ~Buddha

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      I watch way to much tv heh.

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      TV controlling us.

      I completely agree with the notion that the TV networks are the true power brokers in the American State. They decide who the president will be, they decide who will and will not have human rights, and the list goes on and on. One sucj example is what is going on with Sen. Edwards and Mr. Kerry. Once the people hear a good debate between the two, most people are checking their voting intentions and are reconsidering their vote. Edwards has a clean background, is less contraversial, and is a moderate. The conservative media however, do not want a democratic nominee who is capable of beating President Bush. Thus, they are doing everything in their power to pursuad the public that Kerry will be the nominee. It is sickening to watch.

      Paul
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      In wakefulness the eye sees only for a short distance, but in dreams he who is in the East sees the West: awake he sees the present, in sleep he sees the future. In sleep, in the twinkling of an eye, he traverses the East and West.
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      I haven't stopped altogether, nor have i consciously tried to cut back - i just naturally do not want to. i never really did enjoy it much, it's just always been a decent way to spend some "quality" time with others. i'd say i watch about an hour, hour and a half a week...and approximately all of that feels like a chore.
      i can scarcely see myself owning a TV when i'm on my own...well perhaps to occassionally project my movies and nintendo. 8)

      ooh and LS, how about some new incubus? "Talk Shows on Mute" or "Made For TV Movie" are also very fitting...

      ..."you're so much more...
      so much more...endearing with the sound turned off"

      "we build your young, we build you too...
      we see you all..."

      sorry, no time for more detailed quotes, gotta go
      "Nothing is true. All is permitted." -last words of Hassan i Sabbah X
      "As understanding reaches everywhere can you be innocent?" -tao te ching 12

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      First, Welcome dreambahai

      Interesting screen name! What does it mean?

      Secondly, i watch about 1 hour a day, mainly when trying to relax with my wife before bed.

      I wish all TV's would turn into small mushroom shaped clouds. Useless little boxes!!!
      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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      Originally posted by theroguechemist
      Programming is funner anyway. (And more productive!)
      Ditto to the max!

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      They want bush to win? Most the Tv networks want to see him lose badly.

      Personlly I say its up to the person to decide. If your to lazy to think for yourself tv is going to do it for you. If tv doesn't newspapers will, and if they don't your just going to listen to anyone who happens to walk by.

      That is really only news on tv though. Most tv is entertainment though. I think most people tune out commercials, there so many of them and no one buys any of that stuff.

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      To quote some more INCUBUS, from their new CD: A Crow Left of the Murder

      "Talk Show On Mute"

      Take a bow
      Pack on powder
      Wash 'em out with buzzing lights
      Pay an audience to care
      "Impress me" personality

      Still and transfixed
      The electric sheep are dreaming of your face
      Enjoy you from the chemical
      Comfort of America

      Come one, come all
      Into 1984
      Yeah, three, two, one
      Lights, camera, transaction

      Quick, your time is almost up
      Make all forget that they're the moth
      Edging in towards the flame
      Burn into obscurity

      Still and transfixed
      The electric sheep are dreaming up your fate
      And judge you from the card castle
      Comfort of America

      Come one, come all
      Into 1984
      Yeah, three, two, one
      Lights, camera, transaction

      Your foundation is canyoning
      Fault lines should be worn with pride
      I hate to say it but
      You're so much more
      You're so much more
      Endearing with the sound turned off

      ================================================

      "Made For TV Movie"

      I heard a word from on high
      Glare like a light in the sky
      It said, "quit blowing each other up"

      The voice seemed so crystaline clear
      Something's unclean in your ear
      When only blood fills your cup

      Hello
      I'm trying to focus, but my eyes decieve me
      Focus
      I'm witnessing history repeating

      It fell like a tear from my eye
      Flying machines so up high
      Well, there goes the neighborhood

      A scene set to singe innocence
      Upheave, unhinge, and pit against
      Like every made for TV movie should

      Hello
      I'm trying to focus, but my eyes decieve me
      Focus
      I'm witnessing history repeating

      Focus, Focus
      Focus (I can see now)

      We are, we know, we see, we think for you
      The who, the what, the when, the where, the why
      We build your young, we build you too, we see you all

      Hello
      I'm trying to focus, but my eyes decieve me
      Focus
      I'm witnessing history repeating
      "i am the crumpled sheets of paper behind an artists' attempt at perfection"


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      I don't really watch too much either... Just occasional movies and the discovery channel... Hell yeah!

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      And Ed the sock
      Wanna play a joke on your chiropractor? The next time he starts working on you, go limp and soil yourself.
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      Originally posted by Naruto
      And Ed the sock

      I remember that show! woo HOO, saturday morning cartoons!!!
      Now i just sleep in.
      "i am the crumpled sheets of paper behind an artists' attempt at perfection"


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      TV is more addictive the heroin, then crack...
      It is the most major epidemic of social sickness we face today.

      Every corporation has the RIGHT to lie about EVERYTHING they say
      Every corporation is the same, their are only 7 ceos in the world
      (the rest are poser bitch ceos who are fronts for their true masters)

      Every show I have ever seen is completely biased to the right
      The left is right, too.. This is simply shown:
      EVERY TV SHOW WORSHIPS CONSUMERISM
      EVERY PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE WORSHIPS CONSUMERISM
      EVERYTHING ON TV WORSHIPS THE GOD OF IDOLISM

      The ONLY Tv worth any truth is

      FREE SPEECH and
      WORLD LINK TV

      that's it!!!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes Simpsons, Daily show, South Park, Chapelle,
      ...sometimes...

      But TV is like shootin up, Commercials are Burkean.
      Burkean speech: Defined by Burk, first used in mass communication by none other then Adolf Hitler, now employed by corp commericals.
      The speech works like this:
      Tell the crowd how much they suck, how bad their lives are
      Attribute this to your opposition
      Tell the crowd that it is not their fault, that they are controlled by the opposition
      Tell the crowd that you have the solution, tell them that you have the truth, tell them anything they wanna hear, cause you are their salvation.

      It is truly evil. Burk HATED being associated with this speech method, he merely defined it, he never used it.

      TV is evil. It is a Nazi propaganda machine to keep us semi-sick, working, and at WAR. The sins of American media cannot go unpunished like this!!!

      But the addiction...ppl won't leave Tv, cause they WORSHIP it. They BELIEVE in it. Tv is this nation's god....football, movies, sitcoms....

      IDOLISM!!!~

      ...to be continued....

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      TV plays a major role in today's world.

      For example, if TV did not exsist today, the Twin Towers would not of collapsed. There would not of been extensive coverage of it.

      Perhaps more people would have car accidents. Adverts today urge us to wear our seatbelts.

      England would be German. Television helped create the radar in WWII.

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      As long as I can afford my own house, support and love a family in the future, have enough money for a TV, nice computer, decent car, vacation once in a while, and food on the table every day, what do I care about big ass corporations. I spend my money on their mars bars and coke cans once in a while, so what.

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      Yep and all of these Reality Shows are getting way out of Hand. I mean it's turned into a Reality Show Frenzy. Im telling you someones going to get seriously hurt on one of those Reality syndications before they put the brakes on them.

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      Its not really about the programs that we watch, although there are only a couple of exeptions to otherwise mindless programs. I is about the lifestyle, the culture that we live in is based on it. I won't lie to you, I love to watch T.V. I watch plenty of it everyday. I just don't believe anything they tell me too. That doesn't mean its good, it just means that hopefully I am more resistant to the crap they feed us everyday, and the lives they teach us to live.

      I only watch about 10 shows, and every so often I will watch something that seems interesting. Most of these are pretty much comedies, such as Seinfeld(my personal all-time favorite), Simpsons, Malcolm in the Middle, Futurama, Family Guy, Late Night with Conan O'Brien, News Radio........

      Nothing to be taken seriously......

      Anyway, we are already in to deep, the downfall of T.V. wouldn't even do much good now. We have already assimilated its culture into our lives, and people are living the ways that we are told to so we can be as cool as the pretty people wearing the X brand genes. It is alive, and in every one of us. All we can do now is to try to refuse every single thing we are taught, for it all comes from the same source, the same idolized idiotized lifestyle...


      Go and watch fight club again....and again....and again. Perhaps it is the only answer, the only way to live.......
      If I hadn't made me
      I'd be more inclined to bow
      Powers that be would have swallowed me up
      But that's more than I can allow...

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      the only TV i watch is adult swim on cartoon network...that is to say futurama family guy and a bunch of anime...hooray

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