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    1. 03-07-2007 12:30 PM #26
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      I disagree.
      There is a (at least one, that I know of) very sound, scientific argument for our bodies, as well as everything else in the universe, being nothing but a fabrication of consciousness and that "collective consciousness" being broken down to create us as individuals, all perceiving the same illusion of physical reality. In this sense, our bodies may very well not be physical, but it would have to consist of the Earth being immaterial (sp) too, so I don't agree with the whole "earth physical / bodies not" thing.
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      Well, you can't have one and not the other, I mean if the body isn't physical then surely the earth isn't either?

      Could you post a link to that theory so I could have a look at it?
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      Yeah, that's what I was saying (just in case there was any confusion) - that I don't see how the earth could be material and we wouldn't. But as far as the possibility of us both being immaterial:

      Links to different aspects of the same theory:
      Holomovement
      Implicate Order Note wikipedia's article warnings, but the theory, itself (Implicate/Explicate Order) can be found many other places.
      Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?
      That one is taken from the book the Holographic Universe, which is a book I'd really recommend you read, if you're into this kinda stuff^^^
      Information about the physicist who was a main proponant(sp?) of this theory: David Bohm
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Yeah, that's what I was saying (just in case there was any confusion) - that I don't see how the earth could be material and we wouldn't. But as far as the possibility of us both being immaterial:

      Links to different aspects of the same theory:
      Holomovement
      Implicate Order Note wikipedia's article warnings, but the theory, itself (Implicate/Explicate Order) can be found many other places.
      Does Objective Reality Exist, or is the Universe a Phantasm?
      That one is taken from the book the Holographic Universe, which is a book I'd really recommend you read, if you're into this kinda stuff^^^
      Information about the physicist who was a main proponant(sp?) of this theory: David Bohm
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      Awesome, I'll check it out...
      Hmmm, reminds me about a theory I read on how the brain stores memories holographically. I'll see if I can get hold of the book :yumdumdoodledum:
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      Quote Originally Posted by 13redfan View Post
      Hmmm, reminds me about a theory I read on how the brain stores memories holographically.
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      Yup. The book touches on that, too.
      http://i.imgur.com/Ke7qCcF.jpg
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