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      Me and my friend were confused about this...
      If it was possible to travel into the 4th dimension, would our minds be able to function once we were in? Or would it be too much information for us to handle and we would shut down?

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      We are experiencing the 4th dimension. The 4th Dimension is commonly believed to be time.
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      The forth dimension is time, however if you travel to the 5th dimension (which come scientists believe there is 11) you would explode.

      Someone once explained the 4th dimesion (of visibility) to me...

      He said imagine the first dimension as a line on the floor, now imagine the line forming a tile (that is the second dimension) now imagine the floor full of tiles and the shelfs in a store being the third dimension... Now the 4th dimension is when you are at a store and they have the shelfs that when you take a can another one appears in its place... When all the cans are gone, that is the 4th dimension
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      I don't get the whole 4th dimension being time thing, sounds kind of science fiction to me.

      Quote Originally Posted by Smileyguy597 View Post
      The forth dimension is time, however if you travel to the 5th dimension (which come scientists believe there is 11) you would explode.

      Someone once explained the 4th dimesion (of visibility) to me...

      He said imagine the first dimension as a line on the floor, now imagine the line forming a tile (that is the second dimension) now imagine the floor full of tiles and the shelfs in a store being the third dimension... Now the 4th dimension is when you are at a store and they have the shelfs that when you take a can another one appears in its place... When all the cans are gone, that is the 4th dimension
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      ...What?

      It's moar liek dis

      Imagine a line on the ground. That is 1d. Now imagine another line extruding out of that, forming a square. This is 2d. Now extrude another line from each of those lines, forming a cube. 3d. Do it one more time, extruding a line from each of these lines on the cube and you get this piece of shit:



      Do it again, 5d:



      Etc etc. You can do this forever, this is apparently supposed to be a 15 dimensional hypercube:



      images credit http://archive.museophile.org/hypercubes/

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      But when you add the fourth set of lines to the cube, you're not adding another spatial dimension, just more lines going in a different direction but still relative to the three dimensions.

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      Well of course, because downconversion is still possible.

      We can still see 3D images portrayed in 2D, no?

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      Alright, thanks for that. That cleared things up a lot actually.

      Well sorry to change the subject, but about wormholes, two dimensional? Three dimensional? Four, five, fifteen dimensional? If anyone has any ideas, that would be awesome.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Flinte View Post
      Alright, thanks for that. That cleared things up a lot actually.
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      Oh yeah? Well let me confuse things again for you. 4th dimension is time? MAybe, if your first three are mundane spatial dimentions.

      But... What if other dimensions are just different frequencies of energy, or a denser area of space?

      http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?opti...0&Itemid=36

      That is a link to a great free online book, the Divine Cosmos. It doesnt get into the dimensional stuff untill chapter 8 and on, but the rest is deffinately worth a read.




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      I think that the 4th dimension is time, and that if you traveled to the 4th dimension, you would see everything that has ever happened in a specific place all at once. Just like a photo with a long exposure.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Elastic View Post
      I think that the 4th dimension is time, and that if you traveled to the 4th dimension, you would see everything that has ever happened in a specific place all at once. Just like a photo with a long exposure.
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      You cant travel into the 4th dimesnion
      we are experiencing it
      it is a commonly accpeted that the 4th dimension is time
      i bleieve we are discussing the 5th dimesnion really, in this thread.
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      What dimension would the thoughts in your head be?


      Sorry if this is a noobish question.


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      Quote Originally Posted by magicrules22311 View Post
      What dimension would the thoughts in your head be?
      Sorry if this is a noobish question.
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      Well, they are electric signals. So they should still be in the same dimension as anything else around you.
      Or no?
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      According to my cal 3 knowledge, the 4th dimension would be time. (ie: f (x,y,z,t) such that f is equal to the function with respect to the variables x, y, z, and t where t = time).

      A way to explain this visually would be like looking at a flip book. Each page has its coordinate which corresponds to the variable t, while the image is generated by the 3 previous variables x, y, z.

      Hopefully I've explained everything correctly as I'm a little brain fried right now. Currently I'm taking 17 hours of school full of engineering classes. Next semester I'll have to pretty much re-learn calculus for the n'th dimension. Ugggg...
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      Quote Originally Posted by MSG View Post
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      Someone said that this was merely a cube with extra lines. The lines may not be spatial, but if you look closely, it appears to be a cube, inside a cube. That cube represents itself, at any given state of time.

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      no offense but i hate when people go out and say "the fourth dimension is time". we aren't sure that the FOURTH dimension is time, but that SOME dimension is time. Tesseracts are 4D hypercubes I believe. We don't know which dimension would be time, but only that a time dimension exists.
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      What is this? Traveling to other dimensions? Dimensions are vibrations or dense?

      Dimensions are axes in a Cartesian coordinate system. Axes are not dense are traveled to. If they exist, everything has a coordinate relative to them; if they don't, nothing does. Supposedly, the absolute universe is 11-dimensional while our universe is a 4-dimensional field in the absolute universe.

      Because a region in a larger coordinate system is not necessarily linear in any respect, traveling five miles in a straight line may not be traveling in the same direction at all relative to 11-space. Therefore, our universe does not behave predictably in an ordinary 4D Cartesian coordinate system.

      Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo View Post
      no offense but i hate when people go out and say "the fourth dimension is time". we aren't sure that the FOURTH dimension is time, but that SOME dimension is time. Tesseracts are 4D hypercubes I believe. We don't know which dimension would be time, but only that a time dimension exists.[/b]
      I hate when people say dimensions have any inherent order. Time is the fourth dimension because we thought of it fourth. I have never heard of any other reason to put the dimensions in any particular order. If you ave a reason why time should be something other than fourth, please tell me. Incidentally, we have no reason at all to put the first three dimensions in any particular order, which is why they are always lumped together as "the first three" or "the spatial dimensions."
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      The argument here isn't whether time is the 4th dimension, but whether time is a dimension additional to the other 3 we know of. The person is saying the 4th dimension because it isn't one of the other 3. Not because it is number 4. So get over it. Everyone is aware that there is no order.
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