interesting, i didn't know a whole lot about it (beyond having seen "rent" and known that, ironically enough, bohemian clothing is/was "in style"). |
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Anyone familiar with the term "Bohemian"? And no - I'm not talking about the ever-so-famous QUEEN song. |
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"It's only after you've lost everything
That you're free to do anything"
~Tyler Durden
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interesting, i didn't know a whole lot about it (beyond having seen "rent" and known that, ironically enough, bohemian clothing is/was "in style"). |
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"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
-Bill Hicks
Great points, dude, but I think you're confusing revolutionaries with bohemains.. |
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"It's only after you've lost everything
That you're free to do anything"
~Tyler Durden
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"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
-Bill Hicks
Bohemianism as a counterculture I find to be silly... denying someone else's status quo while you create your own among your groupthinking peers. Well, counterculture for its own sake I find silly, Bohemian-flavor or not. |
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"It's only after you've lost everything
That you're free to do anything"
~Tyler Durden
Pussy and Fuck
I think it's silly to be your own person for the sake of being your own person or to do it so you can mesh with your counterculture friends. I don't think it's silly to be your own person because you discover that it's the most fulfilling and validating way to travel through life as. But there will be people who discover that after lots of self-examination and soul-searching, that their honest values and ideals actually match that of the mainstream rather than that of a counterculture. For them, they can be "slaves" to mainstream ideals and get true satisfaction out of it, rather than trying to fit into counterculturalism just because somebody told them it's the only way to be an authentic human being and avoid being controlled by the man. |
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The counter-culture is a very important thing. Learning to live outside of the mainstream reinforces values and skills in ourselves that are normally lost when one becomes a gear in the machine. I personally have no need to rely on Costco or Walmart - in fact, I find the notion disgusting. People that I interact with on a day to day basis can't understand why I hate Starbucks or television. The mainstream is instilling fear into the masses to force them to become consumers, the only state in which people feel comfortable. This slowly pushes humanity away from art and music and free thought, which are the most important things in the world. I myself like to distance myself from all of these bad things so I can focus on my writing, or my music - I feel that I can purify myself through art and philsophy and slowly begin decode the meaning of the cosmos. A bohemian lifestyle is a very pure lifestyle that I wish everyone could enjoy - but in today's day and age it's nearly impossible to live like that, short of buying some land and living on a commune. (Which is also a good idea.) |
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No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings. ~William Blake~
"It's only after you've lost everything
That you're free to do anything"
~Tyler Durden
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Be prepared to give up the internet; and also being a productive member of society. |
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Being different for the sake of being different isn't being your own person, its being pretty much just like everyone else. You can take your cues from movies like fight club, but don't think you're special because of it. |
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As much as I would love to go live on a commune away from television and Starbucks I DO love the internet. Never before has there been such a vast collection of information available for anyone to access and never before has there been a place for anyone to speak their mind as freely as they've wanted to. I'm not against technology, necessarily, but I DO think that humans rely too much on things like gasoline and fast-food. It degrades us, making us less self-reliant. I hope for a time when humanity can shift away from this. I'm not trying to come off as "holier-than-thou", these are just my philosophical beliefs. |
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No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings. ~William Blake~
Dude, first off, don't triple post -_- |
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Last edited by Armageddon_Heaven; 07-07-2007 at 10:07 AM.
"It's only after you've lost everything
That you're free to do anything"
~Tyler Durden
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Thats pretty much exactly how I expected you to feel, which is why I posted it. You are so much like everyone else that you are predictable. Desperately trying to be different and so you avoid everything that could possibly make you normal like the plague. Well, I hate to break it to you but deep down we are all the same. We all want to feel special, we all want to be unique individuals. Even those among us who are scrambling to keep up with the latest fashion trends are doing it because they think if they get it quick enough everyone will think they started it. |
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As far as I know, there is no rule against "triple posting". Until I see otherwise, I'll continue to do it. |
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Yup, I was right; its not in the rules. |
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No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings. ~William Blake~
Xaq, I didn't say it was against the rules. |
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"It's only after you've lost everything
That you're free to do anything"
~Tyler Durden
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All I think is that a person ought to be honest to himself and his own wants and desires. When I hear 'Bohemianism' and 'Counterculture' being tossed around, I get on edge because I can't understand a person who would look inside himself and find the high-order goal "I want to be a Bohemian" or "I want to be a member of the counter-culture." Those things don't mean anything by themselves. What I can see a person finding is "I want to be married to my art above all else," or "I want to form positive change in the world," or even the plain old vanilla "I want to have a productive and satisfying job, find a mate and start a family." |
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You're completely right, that's why I get annoyed with "hippies" that I see around town. They're doing it to be part of a group or be out of the mainstream, but they've completely lost the idea of it all. They don't have the ideals or values that the hippies did back in the 60s, they don't live for the greater good, they're living to make themselves feel better or secure about themselves. It's just a name, sames as "counter-culture" and "mainstream". The best way to be original is to not try to fall into any category, but then again, that becomes a category in itself. There's not alot you can do about it. |
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No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings. ~William Blake~
^Exactly. The aim to be original is a paradox. |
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"It's only after you've lost everything
That you're free to do anything"
~Tyler Durden
Pussy and Fuck
I've been a bohemian since I squeezed out of my Mommy's vagina. I was never a materialist, always cared only for my writing and my loved-ones, letting shit like school slide. I'm a total spiritualist, and a rebel without a cause, and always have been. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I find it interesting that you find this volunteered poverty all over the world. Especially in religions (Buddhist monks chose poverty, as did and do some Christians). |
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“What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume
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