Thread: Fate Exists

I was just inspired to write this.

Nice going, dipshit. Care to elaborate?

You weren't inspired to write this.

You were meant to write this because fate dictates it so.

You lose sir.

So, that's why I keep saying 'dipshit'...it's fate!

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

Nice going, dipshit. Care to elaborate?

Thanks. Elaborate? I think I have, what more do I need to say?

Originally Posted by ExoByte

You weren't inspired to write this.

You were meant to write this because fate dictates it so.

You lose sir.

Hmm, very contradictory.

Fate exists, hence I was inspired and with fate, and so I win, all the time.

Think about it.

Wanna know fate? check the Pittsburgh Penguins and their lucky drafts and timing to suck only to have the players they have today.

Originally Posted by really

Fate exists, hence I was inspired and with fate, and so I win, all the time.

Not if fate says you lose.

Fate is an illusion based on the human construct of a non-branching timeline. When you look backwards all you see is the path you've taken and can no longer see the infinite paths you could have taken. This is a product of the collapsing wave form.

Originally Posted by really

I was just inspired to write this.

You sir, are insane.

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

You sir, are insane.

No, but I can appear to be.


Come on everyone! What do you honestly think of the real nature of Will Power?

Originally Posted by really

I would like to take this idea further.

If one only has Free Will of how one thinks, do you think there is a center or core for this Will to grow and originate? I mean, would there be a specific point where a "self" is defined in physical terms, or would you think fatefully we are wholly what we are, as a full chemical body?? Cut off my arm - am I personally any different?

I had a similar to this, except it went more along the lines of, in way to few words... everything that has and will happen in our timeline has always been, and even though we have a form of free will (not omnipotence as you put it) what we do and will do is always set in stone. Kind of like a guided free will.

And it makes little sense unless I say the whole long theory, which is too much typing for today.

Just wondering something. Say you had a time machine and went back in time to a point to try and prove fate, and it happened again at the same time, and the same day, the exact same way, what would your opinion be then?
or do you guys see fate as something different? that's how i see it, it's bound to happen and happens, and if you went back in time the exact same thing will happen to you at that time. Not the traveling you, because that's the future you, now the presant you.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Fate is an illusion based on the human construct of a non-branching timeline. When you look backwards all you see is the path you've taken and can no longer see the infinite paths you could have taken. This is a product of the collapsing wave form.

I compeltely disagree with that. Actually, if you interpret reality as i do, it is all consisted of reactions that obbey pre-existing laws (gravity for example. That is the school of determinism - what will happen here in two years is already determined, since it's only a reaction of what happens today, which is a reaction of what happened two years ago, and so on. These reactions follows strict rules that will converge in what will happen then. An example of this is predicting tomorow's weather by knowing the way it is today.

Predicting the future is, though impossible for a human or machine, since there are too many things to determien and process (the slightest difference in the speed of an electron would render the results invalid).

Free will is apparent, because our actions and thoughts themselves are only reactions. You might take it like "I have free will, I like apples" - but everything that happened on the universe so far converged on you liking apples. So, yeah, free will doesn't exist (although it may not seem like so).

I made a thread about determinism a while ago: science proves fate?

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Time travellign is only possible to the future - because to the past would make an endless cycle (more like a logical fallacy). Actually because, to relatively advance to the future, you must go to a place of less gravity (space), and to relatively "go back", you'd have to go somewhere where gravity is stronger than light (a black hole). And everyone knows it's impossible to get out of a black hole (not even light can heh).

The hands of time
Who knows who owns the clock hands that rule all of our lives
Perhaps we are all
Just live bait
Left dangling helpless
In the sea of fate......

Infinityecho
I was just inspired to write this.

Originally Posted by really

I was just inspired to write this.

Why has this peice of shit got so many replies?