Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
But such answers as your previous may not be so bluntly welcome in this forum.
What you call 'bluntness', I call 'efficiency'. I stated my position and an example which supported it in two sentences. If people don't like it, maybe I can add some fluff or something.

Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
Well, Xaqaria answered your question. On-ness does not have physical substance.
Are you saying that a computer's on-ness has some non-physical substance? Or are you acknowledging that my example question is invalid?

Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
A spiritual substance, yes.
NO. An emergent property of a system does not have a 'spiritual' substance, damnit. My calculator has emergent properties, snowflakes do, and so do fractals. What on earth does any of that have to do with 'spiritual substance'?

Quote Originally Posted by LucidFlanders View Post
How will that work out? free will just means the will to do whatever we choose whenever we wanna choose to do it, if we had no free will we will not be able to do whatever we wanna do, we will be like robots, doing whatever we are programmed to do aka no free will to do our own thing.
There is one nuance you're missing. It is true that we all have the ability to do whatever we want to do... however, none of us have the ability to change what we want to do, or how this is decided. We are like robots, doing whatever our brains decide we want to do and nothing else.