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      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Owl View Post
      Invisible Woman I think you make a very good point and I really like your modesty in making it too. You are quiet right to point out that if symmetric causation was ever shown to be a reality it would call into question the notion of free will.

      P.S. Thanks for the cool link.
      Has yet another Minervas alterego emerged?
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Why are you so paranoid about it. Not only calling me a troll but insinuating others are me at the same time. That's craziness.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix View Post
      Why are you so paranoid about it. Not only calling me a troll but insinuating others are me at the same time. That's craziness.
      But then I really get suspicious when you suggest that my questions are statements.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Its interesting that so many people are joining just to reply to this thread. You must be very popular, Minerva.

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      Wow, I didn't realise Grey Owl joined as well.
      MPD much? Remember it's possible that none of them would know the others existed as alternate manifestations of the self.
      This could actually explain the idea behind the philosophy.
      The multiple personalities are all different parts of the whole, but they are the same person.

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      As far as I can tell I'm no alter ego. But of course that's no proof at all. Personaly I'm a little insulted that I just joined the forum and am imediately taken to be the split personality of another member; but I guess thats just life.

      If any of you can come up with some insane tests to prove I am who I say I am (I haven't said I'm anyone yet). Then I will happily subject myself to them.

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      The simplest test would be an IP check, but I'm not able to do that at the moment. I'm sure a mod or someone higher could though.

      I will have a shadow of doubt that you are not Minerva, however, if you can do this:
      factorise x^2 + 5x + 6

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      I'm not very good at maths so this is pure guess work from what I remember.

      (x+2) (x+3).

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      nicely done

      and what are your ideas on the golden ratio?

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      It’s very interesting and something I know very little about. From what I do know I think it incredible how this sequence posits the structure of the world around us. The only other thing I can say in respect of the Fibonacci sequence is that it’s highly unique in its reciprocal nature.

      Like I said my maths is very limited and what I do know usually comes from an overlap in Greek philosophy. For example I had to get me head round Cantor when I was studying Zenos paradoxes.

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      I find it quite interesting as well, particularly the complex thinking behind it - you need to imagine infinity in order to understand the way the ratio works. I'm not quite sure how the Fibonacci sequence ties into it though?

      I haven't heard of either of those yet, but I'll look them up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix View Post
      There can be no first cause of reality. If there was a first cause. It could only be every cause existing in an infinite chain of causes and effects. The effect would have to be the cause. And all those causes and effects would not be able to differ from the original cause. That is because nothing could be taken away or added to the original cause as it would be the only thing that could possibly exist. This means that you cannot define or conclude a cause or effect for anything as it will continually elude your intelligence.
      Could you explain how this amounts to a personal philosophy?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Owl View Post
      Invisible Woman I think you make a very good point and I really like your modesty in making it too. You are quiet right to point out that if symmetric causation was ever shown to be a reality it would call into question the notion of free will.

      P.S. Thanks for the cool link.
      :} It's a nice compilation of things, isn't it?

      And how do you (or anyone else) feel about the conecepts of free will, causation, and time?

      Quote Originally Posted by Grey Owl View Post
      Personaly I'm a little insulted that I just joined the forum and am imediately taken to be the split personality of another member; but I guess thats just life.
      'Tis a cruel world, I know.

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      Sometimes Minervas makes true points about math, and she/he had several days to factor that trinomial, which was posed to her in another thread. I am not saying Grey Owl is Minervas, and I have not done that yet. I am just mentioning relevant things.

      Grey Owl, welcome aboard, whoever you may or may not be.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Sometimes Minervas makes true points about math, and she/he had several days to factor that trinomial, which was posed to her in another thread. I am not saying Grey Owl is Minervas, and I have not done that yet. I am just mentioning relevant things.

      Grey Owl, welcome aboard, whoever you may or may not be.
      Yep, grey owl is Minerva Phoenix

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      Sometimes Minervas makes true points about math, and she/he had several days to factor that trinomial, which was posed to her in another thread. I am not saying Grey Owl is Minervas
      No it certainly doesn't sound like you are insinuating anything. Psychology student has randomly decided I am Grey Owl. This is losing the plot that is two people accused of being me now in the one thread. I only use 1 account. I didn't even know how to do that maths problem that Grey Owl completed. Just stop the nonsense.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix View Post
      No it certainly doesn't sound like you are insinuating anything. Psychology student has randomly decided I am Grey Owl. This is losing the plot that is two people accused of being me now in the one thread. I only use 1 account. I didn't even know how to do that maths problem that Grey Owl completed. Just stop the nonsense.
      Owl and a phoenix both are types of birds. Hmmm....
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Your next incarnation should disagree with you; that would really stir up the pot.

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      The only thing I suggest here is an IP check, which seemed to have taken place earlier in the thread about deleting Invisible Woman's account.
      This could turn into a fun detective game

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      Quote Originally Posted by adam has a dream View Post
      The only thing I suggest here is an IP check, which seemed to have taken place earlier in the thread about deleting Invisible Woman's account.
      This could turn into a fun detective game
      If she's smart, she posts on different accounts from every library within a 20 mile radius of where she lives like I do.




      ...not really.

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      Haha!
      There are other clues, such as Grey Owl's relation of/switch between the Golden Ratio to Fibonacci's sequence.

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      Guys. Please. We can make connections to anything looking for evidence and highly paranoid.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owl_of_Minerva

      Quote Originally Posted by wikipedia
      When philosophy paints its gray in gray, then has a shape of life grown old. By philosophy's gray in gray it cannot be rejuvenated but only understood
      Then I would really be Grey Owl.

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      Oh... I'm good at this game...


      Bath's springs were dedicated to the Celtic goddess Sulis, identified by the Romans with their own goddess, Minerva.

      Her Greek counterpart was Athene, symbol of Athens, where philosophy was born. She was the goddess of wisdom, patron of arts and crafts, and in her more militant role was a goddess of war and defender of the state. She was often depicted with an owl, symbol of wisdom. Perhaps the best-known image of her owl is that on ancient Athenian coins like this one from the 5th century BC.



      Also Minervas from Harry Potter was one of the original members of the order of the Phoenix

      Oh, and let's not forget the X-men psychic Jean Grey who was also the Phoenix...

      hehe...



      Here's some free coupons in case your hungry...

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      Invisible woman states in her signature 'The dream is the truth'. Adam has a dream. Adam must be invisible woman. Which is 'the truth'. Notice adam was the first man on earth and the woman was therefore 'invisible'. Until god dreamed a woman up from adams ribs. 'Deleting' his rib turning it into a woman. Is this why he is so obsessed with invisible womans post about deleting the account? Could adam be unknowingly giving away the fact that he very much knows invisble woman was him to begin with and that now she is his wife from the account deletion [eg: rib removal]?

      Quote Originally Posted by adam
      which seemed to have taken place earlier in the thread about deleting Invisible Woman's account
      taken place earlier before woman was created. Making her invisible but then manifesting from adams dream.

      Notice SolSkye just posted a woman. Which is Paradoxical Perceptions of adams dream. Adam looks in the mirror after his rib removed. Realizing he is the mirror version of the woman created. Hence adam has a dream and invisible woman are definitely the same account.


      That's what it looks like when you guys are speculating my imaginary multiple identities from random innocent people who say something that has a casual insignificant relation to what they think is me.

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      Also, to run with the first pair of adam and eve... they represent the two lovers or the number '6' in Tarot arcana set which represents the personality of humans, relating to others, establishing personal beliefs, and determining values... aka philosophy...

      The Lovers can indicate a moral or ethical crossroads - a decision point where you must choose between the high road or the low road. This card can also represent your personal beliefs because to make such a decision you must know where you stand. Following your own path can mean going against those who are urging you in a direction that is wrong for you.





      Quick Minervas... Since you seem to have a knack for these things... What time is it?

      I'm beginning to forget...

      Last edited by Cyclic13; 06-16-2008 at 05:23 PM.


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