Thread: The Nuclear Bomb: A Savior?

Nuclear war wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world, if they are detonated in the air there is no real radioactive fallout, and much less dust sent into the air, of course everyone on the ground where the nuke went off is killed by the heat and shockwave, but in rural areas(rural areas aren't targeted with nukes) people could go on like nothing happened, of course they would lose their power and goods from the cities and thousands would die, but most would survive because they live where the food and water is. Society would have to rebuild, but they would survive, never to make the same mistake again.

Of course I'm sure many, if not most nukes detonate on contact or very close to it and also release fallout which is devastating to people and the environment down wind from the effected areas.

Originally posted by Awaken
I guess those who believe war is necessary will forever be slaves to it.

edit: The unfortunate thing is that people who have evolved past that state are caught up in it.

How in $^$&^ name is war not necessary if some nation launches a missle at your home city, you let it be and tell them not to do it...
Are you saying you are immune to war, you are perfect and 6 billion others arn't.

HOW DARE YOU, i hope millions of soldiers that have fought for FREEDOM against invading forces back in the day turn in they're graves after that statement. They shed blood so that you can sit at your computer and rave on about completely stupid statements like the one you made above, you have no idea.
I can't believe that you think you have evolved past it, you are just ignorant to it, and too cowardly to face the fact that war isn't always to shoot guns at each other, it's to protect innocent against the barbaric most of the time, or to neautrlaise esculating threats.

And don't quote some US Iraq war to me cos im sick of that, there are thousands of wars in history besides that.

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I guess those who believe war is necessary will forever be slaves to it.

edit: The unfortunate thing is that people who have evolved past that state are caught up in it.

How in $^$&^ name is war not necessary if some nation launches a missle at your home city, you let it be and tell them not to do it...
Are you saying you are immune to war, you are perfect and 6 billion others arn't.

HOW DARE YOU, i hope millions of soldiers that have fought for FREEDOM against invading forces back in the day turn in they're graves after that statement. They shed blood so that you can sit at your computer and rave on about completely stupid statements like the one you made above, you have no idea.
I can't believe that you think you have evolved past it, you are just ignorant to it, and too cowardly to face the fact that war isn't always to shoot guns at each other, it's to protect innocent against the barbaric most of the time, or to neautrlaise esculating threats.

And don't quote some US Iraq war to me cos im sick of that, there are thousands of wars in history besides that.[/b]

Of course war has been necessary in the past, but we're becoming more aware of ourselves and one another, to the point where we can understand the human mind enough to know what it needs. People don't fight because they are genuinely evil, they fight because they don't understand one another. You think Hitler killed Jews because he was a really bad guy? He thought it would bring peace to the world. He was actually pretty damn intelligent, he just didn't understand individuals. Our ideas are changing...
How dare you call me ignorant for wanting to get along with people, and how dare you assume I think I'm better than everyone else. People are EQUAL, and that's what I'm trying to get at. That's what I mean by a "more evolved state". You're trying to say I really should be defensive just because it's apparently "human nature"? That's like saying people shouldn't try to think ahead and just live in the present... That gets us nowhere.

Keep fueling the fire. I'm going the other way.

But why did they launch the cruise missile?

War is always started by one party, he's suggesting that it is unnecessary to start war. As long as man has physical authority over his fellow man there will be war. Whenever that authority is asserted, war will occur. Only when each man free will peace exist.

It's true. When the limitations are removed, there is less backlash. Sure there will be problems, but not on a mass scale. Authority tries to control a small problem by imposing restrictions on much MORE than just the problem, "just to be safe". The thing is, the problem is never actually controlled, and those who are not part of the problem suddenly find themselves pissed off about the control!

war is an awefull neccesity, there will allways be people who dissagree with each other, hopefully the world will be blessed with leaders that dont rush into things like that....

If people can learn to understand one another there will be no reason for war in the first place. It's all about focusing energy on what matters. Right now as a society we're focused on differences, and what is "right" and "wrong", but sooner or later we've gotta just let that crap go or we'll never get anywhere. And I'm speaking for everyone. If a child is brought up to see everyone as quintessentially the same, there is no reason for rejection. If he/she is brought up to see things in terms of morality, there is a reason to denounce others for trivial things.

Well i guess everyone's opinion is fair enough, and i am contradicting myself as in other threads ive said why do members try to set something right but i really don't believe at the moment we are capable of not having war.

What i meant by someone starting war with you is that it is impossible at the moment to avoid it as everyone has control over themselves, so you can't control your surroundings.

Just realise, filter out all the political/media junk and what are you left with??Where are these 2 most things dominant, which country?

Im going to evolve, and im with having peace, i hate war honestly. Never will i forget those that sacrificed they're lives to create what i live in today, ill never lose my basic human instincts, because that's what got us here.

War is so much more, than a word with 3 letters. Im at war with greenies, hippies and anti-war protestors for the rest of my immature unwise life. I deeply feel sick when i see them waving banners around like complete idiots, you could say they might get bad karma later on, as some 20 year old person just got shot 4 times fighting to keep them safe 3000 kilometres away.

Growing pains is what this is to a certain extent .

Quote Awaken
You're trying to say I really should be defensive just because it's apparently "human nature"? That's like saying people shouldn't try to think ahead and just live in the present... That gets us nowhere

Thinking ahead is planning, preparing, it's a term you have not described properly to make me look stupid. Of course you can't act it out in the present, the whole idea of the concept is to predict the outcomes in the near future, lol.

And yes id prefer beings be defensive rather than agressive, as proposed to the neutral of doing nothing. Im always defensive of family and frinds.
Call me a modern day caveman, but i tell you right now don't throw the term 'war' around as it's used on tv, you make me feel sick.
For that matter don't reply to this post either, i already know what the reply will be.

It's good trading opinions, were all a little more wiser and pissed off

happy happy joy joy

I don't know this subject is so complex it's insane. I guess it depends on what generation you grow up in to how you feel about it. Lol i know from now on if i make a new thread with a title including anything about war, politics, religion it will automatically get 50+ replies by the time it dies off

I'm sorry for getting emotions involved with this, and I'm thankful you've taken the initiative to turn it around. I find myself to be a follower, but not in the sheep sense. I'll do what I can in a given situation to make the best of it, but I'll only offer suggestions on how to change it or make it better, rather than the all-out thing like mike moore because that's no better than the other way...

There's also nothing I'd want to protect more than those I love, but I just want people to change their reasoning and set a good example. If someone threatened someone I love, I'd be right there to beat him into submission, but I'd also try to figure out the reason behind it. I'd want to bring ourselves to an even state again. I have a dream that the world will one day be united - currency will be uniform, there won't be any borders or distinctions between humans, language might merge, I don't know....I don't think this way because I'm a tree hugger, but because it's crucial for us to continue advancing civilization. I'm probably (definitely) getting ahead of myself, but it's what I hope for. I still respect people for who they are, it just makes me depressed to constantly hear about humans fighting one another. I don't understand the motives of terrorists - that Russian school thing in the news depresses me, the fucking cowards, but they're obviously desperate for something they're not being given. I just want people to understand one anothers' needs. I'd like to explore options outside of conflict. I'll forever hold the hope that we can one day abolish mass conflict. I'm stubborn that way...

Well said

I agree the Russion school crisis is depressing, never should that kind of thing happen, so many innocent ppl gone.

156 or more children alone, dead because of some twisted hatred. I just can't imagine the mindset...