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      Bio-Turing Machine O'nus's Avatar
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zera
      I don't see it as a solution...
      What's the question? After death, you will no longer have to worry about anything nor suffer anything ever again.

      Quote Originally Posted by Sandform
      Actually I was making the point that it is a non-solution. A solution implies fixing something...however suicide fixes nothing.
      For example your hand is burned so you cut off your arm. You've removed the "problem" but it has not fixed anything.
      Removing problems is not the same thing as solving a problem.
      For practicality, it does prevent any other future problems and rids any current issues. If I cut off my arm to solve my burnt hand, that creates the other problem that I do not have an arm now. This is, then, an inappropriate analogy.

      The truth is, if I burnt my hand and killed myself, I would no longer have a burnt hand nor any other problems.

      If (for you) the solution to a problem is removing it, instead of fixing the problem, then sure, suicide is a solution. For some people suicide really is the only solution.
      Fixing is a way as to be saying to modify circumstances in order to happily adapt to it. If I live in a condition X and cannot stand it, there are solutions
      I can consider:

      I can try to change my conditions to satisfy myself or I can kill myself and rid all problems I have had and ever could have.

      I think the question you might want to consider is; is death a bad thing?

      But I'm sure that you would logically agree that someone with social anxiety hasn't "solved" his/her problem by avoiding people.
      Or if you were building a machine and something isn't going right...so you through the whole machine away.
      Still not appropriate analogies. Nothing can encapsulate the perfection of death.

      A social phobic will still suffer anxiety and panic attacks even when avoiding social settings. If I throw away a broken machine, I still need a machine. However, in both circumstances, I can kill myself and have no more problems.

      Quote Originally Posted by GestaltAlteration
      Suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem.
      This is important; what is the temporary problem? I would say that the temporary problem is living. You are going to die. So, the truth is that you are solving or jumping the inevitable. You will die and before you die you will suffer and have pain along with many other things. There may be good and exuberant things, but death offers an infinity of peace.
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      Quote Originally Posted by O'nus View Post
      This is important; what is the temporary problem? I would say that the temporary problem is living.
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      You're not exactly a half-full glass kinda guy, I'd guess.
      When I'm at the pearly gates, this'll be on my videotape. Mephistopheles is just beneath, and he's reaching up to grab me. This is one for the good days, and I have it all here in red, blue, green... You are my center when I spin away, out of control on videotape. This is my way of saying goodbye because I can't do it face to face, I'm talking to you before... No matter what happens now I shouldn't be afraid because i know today has been the most perfect day I've ever seen.

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