Thread: Pondering why existence exists.

I say the universe was created through time travel.

Either A: Something from this universe somehow creates it through a temporal loop (black hole going back in time or something) or B: Two universes create each other because they have no need for the same timeline, and thus do not violate casuality.

We don't need any starting point.

Originally Posted by lseadragon

I say the universe was created through time travel.

Either A: Something from this universe somehow creates it through a temporal loop (black hole going back in time or something) or B: Two universes create each other because they have no need for the same timeline, and thus do not violate casuality.

We don't need any starting point.

But ideadragon, that still assumes something existed before the creation of the universe. In your example: either a blackhole or 2 universes. Did those ever not exist? Where did they come from? Am I missing a key point in your explanation? If I am, sorry.

Originally Posted by SpecialInterests

But ideadragon, that still assumes something existed before the creation of the universe. In your example: either a blackhole or 2 universes. Did those ever not exist? Where did they come from? Am I missing a key point in your explanation? If I am, sorry.

You are missing the point. Those universes created themselves, which negates the need for a starting point. They can create themselves because they already created themselves. While it may sound strange, if they are different universes they're not violating causality because it is a function of one universe or the other. So they can do this.

EDIT: And that's the best misspelling of my username ever.