Thread: Why do you believe in God?

I'm a born atheist so i don't really believe in God. It's because how could there be such a being the universe, all matter and particles and stuff, plus scientist have also shown and proven how the solar system has formed and stuff, so how could God have made it?
Sorry if i offended some ppl out there.
Please post ure thoughts aswell!

I believe in god because...

I AM GOD...

Originally posted by Khronos
I believe in god because...

I AM GOD...

riigghhhhttt and i'm the King of the world lol

Liar!! YOU SIN!!

As GOD I condem you to hell!

I started believing in God at first just on pure faith. Since then, I've have been exposed to so many physics concepts and other stuff that I believe in God scientifically also. I believe there's a way to connect God and Science. Actually, I believe God and Science are the same thing. God is the being with the knowledge and Science is a display of his knowledge.

This universe is created by so many complicated processes happening. Even though these reactions can be explained scientifically, I believe that there still had to be some sort of supernatural power behind the original initial conditions. In my eyes, it's like God created everything, with knowledge down to every sub-atomic particle. With all these, he added on more and more. He only created a bunch of catalysts. The rest of the actions of the universe were set up and made possible b/c of the creation of all the catalysts.

I have taken many physics and electricity courses. After seeing so many really hairy equations that explain whatever phenomenon, I was able to combine that with my beliefs and come up with a faith that was based on science. Auras, for example, fit in nicely with what Super String Theory allows to be possible. That is just one of the many many ways that I've been able to connect God and Science in my mind.

In conclusion, I still think it comes to mostly faith. It could be possible that someone who has the exact same knowledge of physics could still believe that God doesn't exist. It's like I'm always using science to prove God's existance. An athiest could constantly use their science knowledge to disprove God's existance.

My reason is that everything in the world, the ecosystem, the temperature, the fact that we have free will, is all too perfect for me to believe that there could be any other explination. [/b]

Everything that is able to be explained by circumstance and good fortune must be the work of God?

If I were to flip a coin and called it as tails, and it was, would you say that I had some influence on that coin? What if I called tails on every flip of that coin and it was correct for the next fifty times, which is very much possible, would you say I had some supernatural influence on those flips? Now say I had about a hundred billion coins flipping simultaneously, do you think one of those hundreds of billion flipping coins would turn up tails fifty times in a row, or a hundred, or two hundred?

Now, replace calling the correct side of the coin with the circumstances that create a habitable planet and replace the number of coins being flipped with the number of planets in the universe, which are far more then a few hundred billion. Do you think it is unlikely that at least one of those planets would turn out like earth?


Regarding free will. Everything that has a brain has 'free will' - the will to go about their business. To make choices. Do all animals pray and believe in god simply because they have 'free will'? In fact, if you take the term free will literally, it seems more like it would strengthen the case against god; that we are in control of ourselves and not some being outside of us. The term seems more like a religous buzz-word then anything substantial. I don't see how it would prove or disprove the role of a god in creation of humans.

I think someone here should try to learn about 'evolution' without rejecting it beforehand.

although the topic was why you DO believe in god, First you must define what 'God' is. If you define God like the bible does then I dont belive in this guy at all because there is not one shread of evidence, proof or anything except a book that anyone could have wrote. I can't explain here what I think the world is all about and how it works but there is probably what people would refer to as a 'God' if they knew everything about everything. This god may be a person, place, thing, or concept but in my mind it is not "the guy who created earth".

Because I truly believe there is a devil. And if I know that, then I sertainly know there is a God.

well. i started believing in God, cause to me it is the most logical thing to do.

k. Say you're an athiest.
One day you die. and... that's it... there's nothing more.

Say you believe in God.
One day you die. and you were a good christian, and all that, so you go to heaven.. or, supposed you weren't so good, and just didn't make the cut. then.. that's it. there's no hell, no nothing. and it's just like if you were an athiest.

so, if you're a Christian, you have a 50% chance of an afterlife. if you're an athiesr you have... well.. a 0% chance of an afterlife. so to me, it seems like the odds are in favour of the Christians.

edit: i should clarify, that's why i STARTED believing in God. but that was a long time ago, and since then, i've learned a lot about the Bible, and God, etc, and now i believe in GOd for different reasons.

Originally posted by IZ
Because I truly believe there is a devil. And if I know that, then I sertainly know there is a God.

Before you start trying to figure out if there is a god, you should try learning to spell(no offence) Because even if you KNOW there is a devil, even if you are 100% positive, that in no way means there is a god.

Well the question is, Why do you believe in God?

I believe in a universal spirit/god/energy ect as my mind finds comfort in there being a bigger pictire in life.
Even though scientists can explain the big bang ect, what created the big bang and what created that ect.

Well, I don't believe in God (with a capital 'g') per se, but I think some people believe in one/him/it/whatever because it's comforting in a sense, to think that there is someone up there, above everything, who watches over you and loves you, and tries to help you do well in life even if you feel completely alone. I dunno, maybe the monotheists among us can give a better answer...just trying to help, as always.

I don't believe in a God in biblical terms but I think there is SOMETHING. The laws of physics being so perfect indicates a master design, for which there must be a designer.

Heaven, Hell, God, Satan - All human concepts that can partially explain whats going on in a way we can understand. Chap with white beard floating on a cloud? I doubt it!!

Nature/Gaia=God(at least, thats how I feel)

Nature gives us everything, without nature we would not exist. 100% of what is around you is made by nature or with the help of nature. Even modern technology.

Nature gives us air, food, warmth,comfort,fun,happiness..everything.

And above all, nature is so beautiful..

^The reason why I respect and semi worship gaia/nature

Next to that..there are some personal reasons for me to believe in a higher force.

Also, you gotta feel the vibe you know Once you feel it, you'll just know. Just looking outside does the trick for me, but for some it might take particular experiences

god is mother earth, this universe and everything that is.

that's why i believe in god....

I'm atheist.

Originally posted by Kaniaz
I'm atheist.

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I'm atheist.

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I'll try to take these in order and if I don't have time to get to all of them I'll try to come back and finish. I have class soon, so yah. I don't believe in flaming people (unless they deserve it) so if you wish to reply please show the same coutesy. If it sounds like I'm being abrasive to you then I apologize. And on with the opinion.

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My reason is that everything in the world, the ecosystem, the temperature, the fact that we have free will, is all too perfect for me to believe that there could be any other explination. Even in the entire universe, I think that the odds are too slim to have it be anything else.[/b]

With all of the things I have learned in my 19 years of existence, I can't imagine a world where God didn't exist. Everything works too well together and there are an infintismal (spelling?) amount of things that have] to work in a specific way or life would not exist. With everything in existence, I can't see everything just happening by accident.

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God is the being with the knowledge and Science is a display of his knowledge.

I would have to say that that is probably the best way that I've heard that said in relation to God and science. (Just my opinion)

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Now, replace calling the correct side of the coin with the circumstances that create a habitable planet and replace the number of coins being flipped with the number of planets in the universe, which are far more then a few hundred billion. Do you think it is unlikely that at least one of those planets would turn out like earth?

I think it unlikely. For one thing the creation of Earth was not based on a 50/50 method of chance. As I mentioned there are such a large number of factors that go into the formation of a life-sustaining planet and the chances of each and every requirement being fulfilled is just not realistic to me.

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I think someone here should try to learn about 'evolution' without rejecting it beforehand.

Again, the theory of evolution is based also on \"chance\" events. Even if simple protein-based life forms suddenly and mysteriously appeared on the earth, how long do you think they'd survive, let alone morph into something more advanced. If evolution was true, then the first life forms would have had to reproduce asexually, as some organisms alive today do, but these creatures still die out from a whole host of factors, among them being (pardon the term) \"old age\" , disease, being killed by other organisms. I can't imagine creatures living long enough to evolve into anything more advanced. To evolve into the species we are today would take (in my mind given all of the factors) a heckuva lot longer than ~6.2 billion years.

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If you define God like the bible does then I dont belive in this guy at all because there is not one shread of evidence, proof or anything except a book that anyone could have wrote.[/b]

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Nature gives us everything, without nature we would not exist. 100% of what is around you is made by nature or with the help of nature. Even modern technology.

We can find everything we need in nature, yet the earth does not "create" anything. Earth processes may change what is within our environment, but nothing new is created. No matter how much the earth changes we move stuff around the weight of the Earth stays the same.

I have to go to class but I'll come back to this when I can.

-Amé

I think someone here should try to learn about 'evolution' without rejecting it beforehand.

Again, the theory of evolution is based also on \"chance\" events. Even if simple protein-based life forms suddenly and mysteriously appeared on the earth, how long do you think they'd survive, let alone morph into something more advanced. If evolution was true, then the first life forms would have had to reproduce asexually, as some organisms alive today do, but these creatures still die out from a whole host of factors, among them being (pardon the term) \"old age\" , disease, being killed by other organisms. I can't imagine creatures living long enough to evolve into anything more advanced. To evolve into the species we are today would take (in my mind given all of the factors) a heckuva lot longer than ~6.2 billion years.

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You "can't imagine creatures living long enough to evolve into anything more advanced" and I cant imagine that everything in the world was designed by some kind of spirit.
I'm sorry but the way Darwins evolution theory has been explained to me it makes so much more sense to me then what the Creationists say, I just dont see the logic there.

Just my opinion.

We can find everything we need in nature, yet the earth does not \"create\" anything. Earth processes may change what is within our environment, but nothing new is created. No matter how much the earth changes we move stuff around the weight of the Earth stays the same.[/b]

Nature and gaia are not the same as the planet earth though. (the earth itself is part of the bigger thing aswell)

Gaia is just everything around you, everything is a part of it,including us. I often just use the name nature because everything basically is a part of nature aswell.

Gaia creates and destroys, birth and death are part of it. Everything is part of gaia(god is just everything in my opinion) So yes, it does create. (though I dont truely view it as a person)

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My opinion

All things which are true are self-evident.

God is not. You could equate god to the universe but then it wouldn't be god in the Christian sense, it would simply "be". Which is what life is. Doesn't have to have any particular point or reason, it's there through it's own means, and forever shall be. I consider the universe a gigantic equation in which everything balances out to 0. DNA itself is simply attractions and repulsions of molecules that formed in a certain order and started self-replication.

I don't need god for answers, I can find them myself easily enough. The universe is so absurdly simple it's amazing.

Originally posted by Ame

Now, replace calling the correct side of the coin with the circumstances that create a habitable planet and replace the number of coins being flipped with the number of planets in the universe, which are far more then a few hundred billion. Do you think it is unlikely that at least one of those planets would turn out like earth?

I think it unlikely. For one thing the creation of Earth was not based on a 50/50 method of chance. As I mentioned there are such a large number of factors that go into the formation of a life-sustaining planet and the chances of each and every requirement being fulfilled is just not realistic to me.[/b]

Here's a good estimate of the number of planets that could potentially have life on them, and this is a conservative estimate. Drake's Equation, developed by Frank Drake of the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI), as stated in the first article, puts the estimate for the number of life forms able to communicate in our galaxy alone at around ten thousand. A coin is a simple example that is easy to follow; further, I never stated it was a fifty-fifty chance. Multiple coins were being tossed several times, not once. Each time it is tossed the odds decrease. But because so many coins are being thrown into the air, the overall chance increases greatly.

To say that of the billions of galaxies, and billions of stars, that there is not a chance that one other planet gave rise to life is foreign to me.