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      Planes of Existences

      There are many theories to suggest multiple dimensions that range far beyond our spectrum with four dimensional space-time. Although we can not quite understand it, yet, the thought of it is quite astounding. What do you think these dimensions and entirely new planes of existences could hold? What types of properties? Some of my friends have suggested that colors could have sound or even a taste, but not to the sense of a human body, but in a different way. Others have suggested that there are new colors beyond our spectrum of light.

      Even then, we can go deeper into how far up these dimensions expand. Let alone, it is difficult to also comprehend other universes as vast as ours that could be either stacked on our very own plane or are in a completely different space time. These could be parallel universes or new ones entirely with different properties.

      What do you think? Any other perspectives on this?
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      Are you talking about string theory or super gravity? Those are the only theories that I'm aware of.
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      String theory and M-theory are some of the things I'm talking about, yes. But I don't want to just talk about those theories, I want to talk about what individuals on this forum think.
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      "Life is much like a barren road. You can choose to leave it and end up in a deserted wasteland, or you can follow the road to see what is beyond the horizon."

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      i wonder sometimes how big the glass of juice is,
      assuming we are the bubbles.
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      What if there is no size of the glass?
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      "Life is much like a barren road. You can choose to leave it and end up in a deserted wasteland, or you can follow the road to see what is beyond the horizon."

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      i cannot believe that to be true.
      seeming infinite yes but ultimately finite.

      here's a question, what is outside the glass and then outside that
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      Believe is not necessary for the glass to be infinite. If it is finite then that would mean that other aspects of design are also finite, which would bring limitations to existence, possibilities, and the designer, if there is one.

      But, to take in your hypothetical scenario: the glass could be in a glass in an infinite amount. It's always a glass inside of a glass.
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      "Life is much like a barren road. You can choose to leave it and end up in a deserted wasteland, or you can follow the road to see what is beyond the horizon."

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      Absolute, have you ever looked into the Law of One. It's channeled information, but extremely interesting and resonates a lot with the stuff I've read on spirituality, mythology, religion, and science.
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      True, belief isnt necessary for something to exist.

      Just so we're clear before we debate the situation can we agree if we are to include alternate and parallel realities or simply planes of existence such as the negative energy plane?

      if we look deeply enough we'll find them to be the same however for sake of sanity if you'll allow me to split the hairs?
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      Absolute, have you ever looked into the Law of One. It's channeled information, but extremely interesting and resonates a lot with the stuff I've read on spirituality, mythology, religion, and science.
      No I haven't! Would you please enlighten me on it? It sounds quite fascinating. Perhaps through a PM or something? Or on another thread?

      Just so we're clear before we debate the situation can we agree if we are to include alternate and parallel realities or simply planes of existence such as the negative energy plane?

      if we look deeply enough we'll find them to be the same however for sake of sanity if you'll allow me to split the hairs?
      By all means, speak your peace.
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      when i think of "alternate planes of existence" it makes me think of more of a consciousness based plane rather than a "matter" or scientifically provable plane
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      as long as we agree there is a difference then im happy without needing to separate then im happy.

      here are my thoughts on why i want there to be other planes.

      in however many years into the future this 'verse will be out of energy, the stars will run out of juice and the ones that have a low ember left will be literally spaced soo far apart that we'll have to rely on a technology that doesnt require ANY energy input forever,
      all that will exist is rocks and a shed load of black holes.

      i want my future sons and daughters to escape by means of either ascending or physically just hauling ass..

      ...maybe they'll find a 'verse filled with friendly faces and blue tomatoes or a plane with rapturous vibes that fill your body.
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      That's interesting about how you say the suns will burn out. This is common and usually they can either become a black hole or they will be reborn and give birth to new stars and planets. You conceive of the possibility that all stars will die and become nothing or just black holes?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Avatarus View Post
      as long as we agree there is a difference then im happy without needing to separate then im happy.

      here are my thoughts on why i want there to be other planes.

      in however many years into the future this 'verse will be out of energy, the stars will run out of juice and the ones that have a low ember left will be literally spaced soo far apart that we'll have to rely on a technology that doesnt require ANY energy input forever,
      all that will exist is rocks and a shed load of black holes.

      i want my future sons and daughters to escape by means of either ascending or physically just hauling ass..

      ...maybe they'll find a 'verse filled with friendly faces and blue tomatoes or a plane with rapturous vibes that fill your body.
      First - LOL

      Second - You think the human species will last that long?

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      Law of one says that there are different planes of existence, or scientists are calling dimensions ( M-theory or string theory ). The highest ( or 8th density ) being completely at one, with the universe, or the source ), which some OBEr's have experienced. I think "Cusp" said he had one of these in a lucid dream, being totally at one with the universe.

      3rd density is where we supposedly are. Bound by time and space.

      4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th density, matter is less dense allowing more light to pass through, but it has to do with love and light, and cannot properly be put into words.


      Density = a density of consciousness — or density of vibration. Frequently used by Ra as an analog to what is currently thought of as “dimensions” in the Universe. The densities are organized into an eight-fold “octave” system, analogous to the musical octave and the visual light spectrum. Therefore the higher the density, the higher the level of consciousness, and the more light passes through.
      It's channeled information but still interesting.

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      Quote Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD View Post
      Law of one says that there are different planes of existence, or scientists are calling dimensions ( M-theory or string theory ).
      Hard Wired, that's a bunch of garbage. What you are talking about has nothing to do with string theory or M-theory or Quantum Mechanics or Quantum Field Theory or Special Relativity or General Relativity and I doubt that you could tell the difference between any of the above.

      Please stop posting this garbage.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Absolute View Post
      Believe is not necessary for the glass to be infinite. If it is finite then that would mean that other aspects of design are also finite, which would bring limitations to existence, possibilities, and the designer, if there is one.

      But, to take in your hypothetical scenario: the glass could be in a glass in an infinite amount. It's always a glass inside of a glass.
      brain does not compute.

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      Yes i do.

      i wonder P'Stoned what are these theories about?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Avatarus View Post
      i wonder P'Stoned what are these theories about?
      They're not about "different planes of existence" in anything remotely resembling anything hard wared was talking about.

      Do you have specific questions about them?

      I can answer questions about special relativity, general relativity and quantum mechanics pretty well. I know the math for QFT but don't know the theory yet other than it's general structure and I have about the same level of understanding of string theory. M-theory doesn't exist. It's what they think string theory is pointing at. Depending on who you ask, the M stands for "mother of all theories" or nobody knows what it stands for because nobody knows what it is.
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      Whether the plane concept is real or not, one thing is for sure:

      We live in a universe made of energy which can be shaped and manipulated by thoughts. This is the implication of both Quantum Physics and ancient Metaphysics.
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      Quantum physics does not imply that energy can be shaped by thought.

      The only interpretation that has anything to do with consciousness is the Copenhagen Interpretation. In CI, they claim that the wave function represents the state of knowledge of the observer and that wave function collapse represents an updating of that knowledge.

      It may leave open the possibility but it does not imply it. They are two very different things.
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      Quote Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD View Post
      Whether the plane concept is real or not, one thing is for sure:

      We live in a universe made of energy which can be shaped and manipulated by thoughts. This is the implication of both Quantum Physics and ancient Metaphysics.
      No it isn't. You don't know anything about quantum physics. What's the wavelength of a particle mass 5kg moving at 10ms^-1? If you don't know what quantum physics is how can you claim to know its implications? The answer is that you are repeating what somebody told you based upon blind faith. The person who told you this information was unfortunately a crazy liar.

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      2h meters

      There is also the possibility that the person he's listening to is just stupid or taking some informal remark by a quantum physicist in the wrong way.

      @Hard Wired. Here's the first in a series of lectures that Leonard Susskind has on youtube. He's one of the three people that independently invented string theory. He's really smart, but that goes without saying. He teaches the math as he goes along. It's for a continuing education class that he teaches. I'll be happy to answer any questions. These lectures have helped me a lot as I haven't taken classes on it so they're a good substitute for the lecture part of a class. They're very slow paced so they shouldn't be too hard.

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      I don't understand, why does the photon/electron get knocked in a random direction when it goes through the slit? Does it bump off the inside lip of the slit?

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      Matter interacts via the electromagnetic force. The electron, if it is an electron, will be repelled by the negatively charged electrons which surround the atoms which constitute the material which surrounds the gap.

      For this to work the wavelength of the particle has to be the same order of magnitude as the size of the gap.

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