Thread: What if there is something outside the universe?

Say for instance, there was an end to the universe, and there is something "Outside" of it. Like say, we are merely in a small marble comprised of galaxies, stars, planets ect.

The concept of this is so prodigious, I was hesitant to post this, so I apologize if this is a little "out there".

Remember the ending sequence to the movie Men In Black? You know what I mean then...

BTW, I new to these forums, so sorry if I did something wrong in terms of guidelines or breaking into the forums. I'll be working on my profile and getting to know you all. I find philosophy and in general, this whole site very interesting. However I often find such discussions to be overly trivial and somewhat of a "neverending debate". But it's very fun and great to talk about. I was excited to post here, and the above question was the first thing I though of.

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Google "Multiverse"

Cool exobyte, I should have though of that. But perhaps something even outside the Multiverse itself?

The Omniverse, and after that, the Polyverse (just a fabricated name to throw in there). And so on...

I know this sounds funny and ridiculous, but how about a series of things ending in "Verse" until we stumble upon something else?

I shouldn't push this too far should I? Lol

I think the chances of more than one universe existing, and stuff existing outside of the universe makes more sense than not.

If you go back far enough in time, eventually you get to the point where either some thing just randomly appeared out of no where, or random events caused stuff that has been here for all of time to suddenly react in a way they never have before. Both seem unlikely.

To me it seems more likely that there is some system that creates and destroys universes, just like solar systems and galaxes are formed then destroyed. Infinite time backwards, makes a lot more sense if everything is in a cycle and repeating. Since the unvierse isn't doing it(as far as we can tell), then there should be something else outside of it.

I know this sounds funny and ridiculous, but how about a series of things ending in "Verse" until we stumble upon something else?

What do you mean by something else? Why wouldn't that thing also be a 'verse'?

Personally I think there's a multiverse, but at some level you're going to have something which contains the whole of reality. But it's worth remembering, the universe itself is far to large to comprehend, really.

The whole thing seems like a sort of mental masturbation to me. How do you define the universe? Usually I take it to mean all that which we are able to detect. If we can detect something, it is part of the universe. Therefore, anything 'outside' the universe is by definition, undetectable and can be considered to not exist. As subjective beings, the only things that really matter are those that we can experience, so if something is intrinsically beyond our experience, then it effectively is non-existent.

The multiverse idea is not the same as something 'outside' the universe in my opinion. Universe means 'all that is' so technically a different time-space continuum that runs parallel to our own is still part of the one universe. This may just be a problem with labelling, of course, since no matter how much stuff we find, all of it together will still be contained in the universe simply by how the word is defined.

Originally Posted by Tall Tale

I shouldn't push this too far should I? Lol

Hey, go for it. This is fascinating stuff. No need to apologize for having deep thoughts. Anybody who bitches at you for it is a stupid troll. Exploring reality and thought is a good thing.

Originally Posted by Tall Tale

Say for instance, there was an end to the universe, and there is something "Outside" of it. Like say, we are merely in a small marble comprised of galaxies, stars, planets ect.

The concept of this is so prodigious, I was hesitant to post this, so I apologize if this is a little "out there".

Remember the ending sequence to the movie Men In Black? You know what I mean then...

BTW, I new to these forums, so sorry if I did something wrong in terms of guidelines or breaking into the forums. I'll be working on my profile and getting to know you all. I find philosophy and in general, this whole site very interesting. However I often find such discussions to be overly trivial and somewhat of a "neverending debate". But it's very fun and great to talk about. I was excited to post here, and the above question was the first thing I though of.

Thank You

Yes, odds are, we are not exclusive. While the universe thus far is infinitely expanding, it is finite; there reaches a point where matter and energy cease to exist at all. The void beyond is so vast and deep, that as of yet, we are unable to detect anything beyond it. That said, I find it unlikely that there has been only one big bang. Interesting, thought provoking, cool.

Multiverse....does that mean there is a second me somewhere out there? with or without the exact same thoughts as i am thinking now? or am i a female there like "The One". By second me, i also mean infinite because most likely there would be infinite me's out there in their cosmos.