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      Buddhism

      Buddhism is not meant for any person with any relation to christianity, the shit is too deep for an inferior religion such as that to understand.

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      All of the Dharma is based on Buddha's discovery that suffering is unnecessary: Like a disease, once we really face the fact that suffering exists, we can look more deeply and discover it's cause; and when we discover that the cause is dependent on certain conditions, we can explore the possibility of removing those conditions.

      Buddha taught many very different methods for removing the cause of suffering, methods appropriate for the very different types and conditions and aptitudes of suffering beings. For those who had the capacity to understand it, he taught the most powerful method of all, a method based on the practice of compassion. It is known as the Mahayana, or Great Vehicle, because practicing it benefits all beings, without partiality. It is likened to a vast boat that carries all the beings in the universe across the sea of suffering.

      Within the Mahayana the Buddha revealed the possibility of very quickly benefiting all beings, including oneself, by entering directly into the awakened state of mind, or Buddhahood, without delay. Again, there are different ways of accomplishing this, but the most powerful, and at the same time the most accessible, is to link ones own mind with the mind of a Buddha.

      In visualization practice we imagine ourselves to be a Buddha, in this case the Buddha of Compassion, Chenrezig. By replacing the thought of yourself as you with the thought of yourself as Chenrezig, you gradually reduce and eventually remove the fixation on your personal self, which expands your loving kindness and compassion, toward yourself and toward others, and your intelligence and wisdom becomes enhanced, allowing you to see clearly what someone really needs and to communicate with them clearly and accurately.

      In most religious traditions one prays to the deities of the tradition in the hopes of receiving their blessing, which will benefit one in some way. In the vajrayana Buddhist tradition, however, the blessing and the power and the superlative qualities of the enlightened beings are not considered as coming from an outside source, but are believed to be innate, to be aspects of our own true nature. Chenrezig and his love and compassion are within us.

      Chenrezig or Avalokiteshvara or Kuan Yin: The Embodiment of Compassion

      In doing the visualization practice we connect with the body and voice and mind of the Buddha by the three aspects of the practice. By our posture and certain gestures we connect with the body, by reciting the words of the liturgy and by repeating the mantra we connect with the voice, and by imagining the visual form of the Buddha we connect with the mind.

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      All living beings wish to be happy, but again and again they find their attainment of happiness frustrated by obstacles or hindrances – both external and internal.

      External hindrances can arise from animate objects such as malevolent humans and wild animals; or from inanimate objects such as the four external elements of earth, water, fire, and wind, which can give rise to earthquakes, floods, destructive fires, and hurricanes.

      Internal hindrances arise from causes within our body and mind. If the four internal elements are in a state of harmonious equilibrium, our body is healthy, but when they are out of balance our body experiences a variety of problems and diseases. If our mind is filled with negative thoughts and delusions, such as desirous attachment, anger, and ignorance, we experience great harm and suffering as a result. They prevent us from maintaining a peaceful mind, and also destroy whatever happiness we may have gained.

      The main obstacles that hinder our progress to liberation and enlightenment can be summarized as the four maras, ‘mara’ being a Sanskrit word meaning ‘demon’. These are: the mara of the delusions, the mara of the aggregates, the mara of the Lord of Death, and Devaputra mara(children of god demons). Anyone who conquers these four maras completely is a Buddha, or a ‘Conqueror’.

      All the suffering that we experience arises as a result of our delusions and the actions we create under their influence. As well as disrupting our temporary happiness and peace, delusions also hinder our progress towards the ultimate happiness of liberation and enlightenment.

      Our contaminated aggregates are the very nature of samsara and the basis of all our suffering. For as long as we have these aggregates, we shall be unable to attain liberation.

      The mara of the Lord of Death refers to ordinary, uncontrolled death, which deprives us of the chance to complete our spiritual practice. Unless we have thoroughly purified our negative actions and gained firm control over our body, speech, and mind, we cannot be confident that, after death, we shall not fall into a lower rebirth, where spiritual practice is impossible and escape is very difficult.

      The Devaputra(Son of God) maras are actual beings, such as Black Ishvara, who interfere with our spiritual progress to liberation and enlightenment. For example, when Buddha Shakyamuni was about to demonstrate the attainment of enlightenment under the Bodhi Tree, it was the Devaputra maras who tried to disturb him.

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      Buddhist Logic
      Since some background knowledge of rebirth and karma is useful for understanding Buddhism, there now follows a brief introduction to these topics taken from Geshe Kelsang's book, Eight Steps to Happiness:

      The mind is neither physical, nor a by-product of purely physical processes, but a formless continuum that is a separate entity from the body. When the body disintegrates at death, the mind does not cease. Although our superficial conscious mind ceases, it does so by dissolving into a deeper level of consciousness, call 'the very subtle mind'.

      The continuum of our very subtle mind has no beginning and no end, and it is this mind which, when completely purified, transforms into the omniscient mind of a Buddha.

      Every action we perform leaves an imprint, or potential, on our very subtle mind, and each karmic potential eventually gives rise to its own effect. Our mind is like a field, and performing actions is like sowing seeds in that field. Positive or virtuous actions sow the seeds of future happiness, and negative or non-virtuous actions sow the seeds of future suffering.

      This definite relationship between actions and their effects - virtue causing happiness and non-virtue causing suffering - is know as the 'law of karma'. An understanding of the law of karma is the basis of Buddhist morality.

      After we die our very subtle mind leaves our body and enters the intermediate state, or 'bardo' in Tibetan. In this subtle dream-like state we experience many different visions that arise from the karmic potentials that were activated at the time of our death. These visions may be pleasant or terrifying depending on the karma that ripens. Once these karmic seeds have fully ripened they impel us to take rebirth without choice.

      It is important to understand that as ordinary samsaric beings we do not choose our rebirth but are reborn solely in accordance with our karma. If good karma ripens we are reborn in a fortunate state, either as a human or a god, but if negative karma ripens we are reborn in a lower state, as an animal, a hungry ghost, or a hell being.

      It is as if we are blown to our future lives by the winds of our karma, sometimes ending up in higher rebirths, sometimes in lower rebirths.

      This uninterrupted cycle of death and rebirth without choice is called 'cyclic existence', or 'samsara' in Sanskrit. Samsara is like a Ferris wheel, sometimes taking us up into the three fortunate realms, sometimes down into the three lower realms.

      The driving force of the wheel of samsara is our contaminated actions motivated by delusions, and the hub of the wheel is self-grasping ignorance. For as long as we remain on this wheel we shall experience an unceasing cycle of suffering and dissatisfaction, and we shall have no opportunity to experience pure, lasting happiness.

      By practicing the Buddhist path to liberation and enlightenment, however, we can destroy self-grasping, thereby liberating ourself from the cycle of uncontrolled rebirth and attaining a state of perfect peace and freedom. We shall then be in a position to help others to do the same.

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      Please be careful. What you are essentially describing seems to be a combination of popular Buddhism and actual Buddhism. I have not studied or read much about Tibetan Buddhism, so perhaps what you are describing is just Tibetan Buddhism or Vajrayana Buddhism or maybe even some new flavor of Western Buddhism. In any case, please understand and realize that the beliefs of later Buddhist schools are not necessarily the beliefs of all Buddhists or even of the Buddha himself or anything he said (there are a number of Sutras attributed to the Buddha that are known to be written down much after his life by the dissecting schools. If there is value in the writing, then it is still valuable and worth reading. However, falsely claiming it is a direct teaching of the Buddha only serves to misguide people.)

      Understand that the Buddha taught according to the mental and spiritual capacity of those he was teaching too. Often he taught in parables. To someone from a small village, telling them if they did too many bad deeds they would come back as a goat would have had a great impact. It is important to not take these parables literally and mistake them for truth. Truth cannot be spoken, it can only be spoken about.

      Out of these parables, the idea of transmigration of the soul (or "very subtle mind") came to be in popular Buddhism. However, please understand that in actual Buddhism, there is no idea of transmigration of the soul or reincarnation as put forth here.

      Also, when copying & pasting text, it is polite to cite the source, so as to to not lead people astray when they will inevitably make the assumption that you wrote it yourself.
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      Instead of all that you could just say..

      My religion is very simple, my religion is kindness!
      ~The Dalai Lama

      True buddhism at its core is nothing more then that. Kindness,compassion

      I consider myself to be a buddhist (though I do /not/ follow /all/ ideas of buddhism, and mix alot of different streams(mahayana,zen,pure land) and some of my own ideas of course..nothing beats the heart) but I know that what truely matters is just that little Dalai Lama quote up there. And it so happens to be that all major religions follow that idea. Compassion, kindness, honesty, generosity, care, acceptrance, equality..and everything else that belongs to that line. Simple values that make up just that what buddhism is really about, I think. No complicated thoughts, just that. Compassion.

      Alot of people might disagree, but everything else is up secondary and not a must. Its just..whatever you feel comfortable with. If that is meditation and reciting mantras or praying to god..as long as you practice your religion from the goodness of your heart, you are doing the best thing you can do.

      We can do without temples. We can do without meditation. But we can't do without compassion. Another quote there. But if you feel like you found something amazing in buddhism (I figure, why else share) Im glad. Carry on
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      Originally posted by dream-scape
      Please be careful. What you are essentially describing seems to be a combination of popular Buddhism and actual Buddhism. I have not studied or read much about Tibetan Buddhism, so perhaps what you are describing is just Tibetan Buddhism or Vajrayana Buddhism or maybe even some new flavor of Western Buddhism. In any case, please understand and realize that the beliefs of later Buddhist schools are not necessarily the beliefs of all Buddhists or even of the Buddha himself or anything he said (there are a number of Sutras attributed to the Buddha that are known to be written down much after his life by the dissecting schools. If there is value in the writing, then it is still valuable and worth reading. However, falsely claiming it is a direct teaching of the Buddha only serves to misguide people.)

      Understand that the Buddha taught according to the mental and spiritual capacity of those he was teaching too. Often he taught in parables. To someone from a small village, telling them if they did too many bad deeds they would come back as a goat would have had a great impact. It is important to not take these parables literally and mistake them for truth. Truth cannot be spoken, it can only be spoken about.

      Out of these parables, the idea of transmigration of the soul (or \"very subtle mind\") came to be in popular Buddhism. However, please understand that in actual Buddhism, there is no idea of transmigration of the soul or reincarnation as put forth here.

      Also, when copying & pasting text, it is polite to cite the source, so as to to not lead people astray when they will inevitably make the assumption that you wrote it yourself.
      Understand this, there is more than one Buddha. Why else would the historical buddha be teaching, he taught so that others could become buddhas. Many have attained it and have given their teachings as well. What's the false claim? Where is it listed? There has been no misguidedness, maybe you failed to understand. Maybe you're reading from "false teachings". The only people I ever heard using the phrase "False teachings" are the Christians. I think you are a Christian, fanatically screwing with me. I'm sure if you look hard for something, you'll find it. Do you even know what a search engine is used for? You want to stay in Samsara the rest of your life, fine with me, what's your real problem? Gotta follow an orthodox traditon? They say they're the only ones who know, what do you know, gullibility?

      I'm not just listing a Buddhism Topic just for the fun of it, I'm building a foundation for Dream Practice found in Buddhism. But before I go in detail, I got to make a few things understood.
      Om mani padme hum.

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      Originally posted by Lucius
      Instead of all that you could just say..

      My religion is very simple, my religion is kindness!
      ~The Dalai Lama

      True buddhism at its core is nothing more then that. Kindness,compassion

      I consider myself to be a buddhist (though I do /not/ follow /all/ ideas of buddhism, and mix alot of different streams(mahayana,zen,pure land) and some of my own ideas of course..nothing beats the heart) but I know that what truely matters is just that little Dalai Lama quote up there. And it so happens to be that all major religions follow that idea. Compassion, kindness, honesty, generosity, care, acceptrance, equality..and everything else that belongs to that line. Simple values that make up just that what buddhism is really about, I think. No complicated thoughts, just that. Compassion.

      Alot of people might disagree, but everything else is up secondary and not a must. Its just..whatever you feel comfortable with. If that is meditation and reciting mantras or praying to god..as long as you practice your religion from the goodness of your heart, you are doing the best thing you can do.

      We can do without temples. We can do without meditation. But we can't do without compassion. Another quote there. But if you feel like you found something amazing in buddhism (I figure, why else share) Im glad. Carry on
      Compassion is nice and dandy, but how will you become a buddha without meditation? Compassion will make Samsara a better place, but only meditation will get you out of it. Once you become a buddha, then help all living beings. Helping before becoming a buddha, a person may apply wrong applications and make matters worse. Only a buddha knows the appropiate method for any delusion that arises. Buddha has given the 84,000 teachings for the 84,000 delusions of the mind, not all sutras contain the methods. Mostly what is taught in the Pure Land Schools is Sutra only, the uncommon method is the Buddhist Tantra Method, which I have listed on another thread.

      About Tantra

      Different people have different capacities for spiritual understanding and practice. For this reason, out of his compassion, Buddha Shakyamuni gave teachings at many levels, just as a skilful doctor administers a variety of remedies to treat different types of sick people.

      For those who wish merely to attain human happiness Buddha gave teachings revealing actions and their effects, or karma; and he taught moral discipline as their main practice.

      For those who wish to experience the permanent inner peace of liberation, or nirvana, for themselves alone, Buddha gave teachings on the faults of samsara; and he taught the three higher trainings - training in higher moral discipline, training in higher concentration, and training in higher wisdom - as their main practice.

      For those who wish to attain the ultimate goal of full enlightenment Buddha gave teachings on the development of great compassion and bodhichitta; and he taught the six perfections - the perfections of giving, moral discipline, patience, effort, mental stabilization, and wisdom - as their main practice.

      All these teachings are open to anyone who wishes to study and practice them. The experiences that are gained from practicing them are called the 'common spiritual paths'.

      Besides these teachings, Buddha also gave teachings on Tantra. These may be practiced only by those who have received Tantric empowerments. The experiences gained by practicing these teachings are called the 'uncommon spiritual paths'.
      Om mani padme hum.

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      If you say the only way to escape Samsara is by meditating etc, by following Buddha's teachings (as in the classical buddha we usually refer to) then this is basically the same as a christian saying. "the only way to reach heaven is through Jezus and through God, everything else is not as good!" (because one could compare enlightment with going to heaven and samara with suffering(hell, the one we create ourselves with illusions). I see you are annoyed with certain christians saying this. But mind you, you are putting down a similiar statement. (And Im not trying to attack you are anything, if it seems that way Im sorry, just trying to show my point).

      What about all the christians, hindus, muslims..and so on. They are not all doing the wrong thing..they are simply practicing just what buddhism is in its core aswell(according to me). Love, compassion, kindness! ^_^ (at least, the non-extremists that dont take their religion too serious). There have been so many religions and so many great teachers, not one path is the 'right' one I think. But the same patern that returns everytime again..a word Ic ant say enough, compassion, love, kindness and so on.

      What do we know for sure about Jezus really? All of his teachings were twisted around by the church, all we do know is that he preached just that what Ive been mentioning. the other, more detailed, complicated stuff is very unreliable. What did all the other teachers preach, like buddha. That aswell. But who says buddhas orginal teachings(about the 'deeper' stuff one might say) were not twisted around either by many generations? Thats why our heart is such an important tool at our quest for 'enlightment'.

      But Im not telling you stray away from your believes. you have yours, just like I have mine. And as long as we dont hurt anybody by practicing them thats just fine Im glad you are os passionate about the Buddhas teachings. They are very intrigueing indeed, and living by them certainly isnt a bad thing to do! Can only be good So yeah..no offense in any way intended, just trying to show you how i feel.
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      I didn't say anything about thru Buddha, I said thru the teachings. Besides the Buddhist Tantra is so deep, just taking a superficial look at it won't give the proper understanding, it has nothing to do with belief. There is nothing Christian about it, only Christians would say that, they try to compare everything with they're religion. They consider all religions have a belief and a God, not true. Buddhism is in a whole other category. Unlike anything anyone can just understand, it has to be deeply understood.

      Going to heaven... heaven is still in the realm of samsara. The 6 modes of existence in Buddhism talk about the god realm, demi-god realm, human realm, animal realm, ghost realm, and the hell realms. Due to Karmic potentials will determine which realm we go to and for how long, nothing is permanent in samsara.

      Read my "Buddhist Tantra" thread for a greater understanding, and even that is just introductory only.
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      Im not saying that its all the same, Im saying that basic values are all the same. And honestly, I feel that those values are just the things that matter. Its not a matter of comparing religions, its a matter of unifying everything as equal, one thing not being superior to the other. (as in more superior teachings). It all just being a personal thing, what you feel most comfortable with. I dont think spirituality is that complicated, it doesnt have to be anyway. I think 'enlightment' is not complete and utter spiritual evolvement and completion through meditation and follow a certain path. Its filling oneself with love and compassion, and ritting onself of hate. Then you will find absolute peace because you find happiness in other peoples happiness and with your own peace. When you have that..the other stuff might come and it might not, I do not think it is the ultimate goal.

      But it doesnt matter. I dont feel like saying too much more because it will make something very simple too complicated. I respect your opinion on this, and the good thing about my belief is that your way is right aswell =) Because like a true buddhist you also practice the values I have been naming all the time. And thats enough for me. And if you feel like my way of thinking is somehow incorrect thats ok too.

      I hope you will find enlightment this lifetime, the thought of a soul achieving enlightment is a comforting one. Because thats just it..enlightment, escape from this realm? I have no problems whatsoever with spending another eternity in samsara if there are so many people here still stuck in there aswell. If I can "make samsara a better place" like you said but cannot escape it with my way. Thats ok, Im happy still. Because its a better place for other souls because of my small sacrifice(even if its only a tiny spark that improves).
      "You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection."
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      How about you speak from your own heart and mind, instead of copying information from http://www.aboutbuddhism.org and other websites and books in all your replies.

      I am not a Christian, but at the same time I am not less than or more than a Christian.

      Some of things you are saying and some of tones you are carrying, makes me wonder. The manner in which you speak when it is really you who is speaking is an attitude that I believe no one who really practiced Buddhism would ever post. There is more than one voice in your posts. The text you have copied from elsewhere carries a soft tone. The text that is clearly your own carriers a darker tone; belittling, hating, and resenting. It could also be that the text is all your own, and then how can one know how to teach others when their own heart is still bound by so many knots?

      I don't claim to know truth or anything about it. Even if I did, I could not possibly tell anyone what it was. How could I? I could speak about it, but even then I would have to hope you didn't mistake the words I spoke for the truth. Everyone has to find truth on their own, in themselves, and in the world around them.

      Find peace in yourself, and then you can find peace in the world.
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      I slightly agree with dreamscape there. I am happy you have found buddhas(and co) teachings but remember never to be stuck on just that. Like he said, follow your own heart aswell. I personally think a true buddhist is simply somebody that is at peace with himself and the world around them(including those christians), somebody that fills himself with compassion, kindness, and understanding and all those things.

      Thats just what I feel, and you dont have to worship compassion and love asif they were a god like I do =P But you get what Im trying to say
      "You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection."
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      The meditative state is a core element of a further understanding of the self. It has been shown through EEG that there is a significant shift in brainwave patterns and that meditation has no difference with prayer only in that it is secular.

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      Originally posted by Berserk_Exodus
      The meditative state is a core element of a further understanding of the self. It has been shown through EEG that there is a significant shift in brainwave patterns and that meditation has no difference with prayer only in that it is secular.
      There's a huge difference. Prayer is where you're speaking to someone else silently. So what of brainwave patterns, they're the same, but the method is by far very different. Yes, both seem relaxed, whoopy doo. If that's all you get out out of it, great stay where you are. Meditation, silencing all thought is great but accomplishes nothing, now the self has been understood, now what. \"Don't know?\"

      Generation Stage Meditation is basically visualization meditation, you create what you want to see, as the strength of faith increases, doubt will be removed. Eventually when all doubt has been removed, the person can do the same things in the waking state as in the dream state.

      Need I remind what Faith is again, not the christian BS version, the one as I have explained it.
      Originally posted by Potential
      There are two types of Faith.
      1. a) one's religion, B) what one believes in
      2. that which overcomes doubt.

      Since everybody understands Definition #1, I' ll discuss Definition #2.
      You cannot understand faith, without first understanding doubt.

      How to experience doubt:
      When in meditation after a period of time, you may hear a noise, like someone speaking to you and no one is there. Or you may see an image as crystal clear as you see your own computer screen. The moment you think [edit]? or What is this? or even the simple \"Huh?\", it disappears. That was doubt. And the longer you can hold the vision without questioning it is the strength of your faith increasing.

      Faith is not something you just say, \"I believe\"and then go walk on water. You have to train it.

      Faith as small as a mustard seed can move a mountain, but most people can't even move the mustard seed, so what faith do they have? Their faith is weak, or non-existent.
      Originally posted by Potential+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Potential)</div>
      Originally posted by bradybaker@
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      Faith as small as a mustard seed can move a mountain, but most people can't even move the mustard seed, so what faith do they have?

      I don't need faith to move mustard seeds. I can observe the situation, draw logical conclusions and determine that I can just use my hands.
      Well duh, but move the mountain in the same way, Smart@ss. What's the point in talking about the power of faith if you're going to do what all the retards have done for centuries?

      I'm describing faith as something that needs to be exercised, not a freggin belief or hope, in hopes of doing the impossible. Faith visualization techniques allow a person to dream while sitting up, while still awake and still be able to control the dream.[/b]
      Om mani padme hum.

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      Originally posted by dream&#045;scape
      How about you speak from your own heart and mind, instead of copying information from http://www.aboutbuddhism.org and other websites and books in all your replies.

      I am not a Christian, but at the same time I am not less than or more than a Christian.

      Some of things you are saying and some of tones you are carrying, makes me wonder. The manner in which you speak when it is really you who is speaking is an attitude that I believe no one who really practiced Buddhism would ever post. There is more than one voice in your posts. The text you have copied from elsewhere carries a soft tone. The text that is clearly your own carriers a darker tone; belittling, hating, and resenting. It could also be that the text is all your own, and then how can one know how to teach others when their own heart is still bound by so many knots?

      I don't claim to know truth or anything about it. Even if I did, I could not possibly tell anyone what it was. How could I? I could speak about it, but even then I would have to hope you didn't mistake the words I spoke for the truth. Everyone has to find truth on their own, in themselves, and in the world around them.

      Find peace in yourself, and then you can find peace in the world.
      Yeah, it's called "wrathful actions with compassionate intentions", in other words "discipline". Used for numbskulls who'd rather overlook everything for the sake of arguing nonsense. It'll get your attention faster than a "God Bless You" will.

      It was About Tantra, not http://www.aboutbuddhism.org. If you want to understand the deeper stuff of the Buddha got to the Buddhist Tantra Thread. Might I remind you that Buddha gave certain teachings to certain people based on their understanding capacity. Maybe you lack the higher capacity, in that case stop preaching your BS logic to me, just ignore it, stay where you, in a couple of millineum maybe you'll figure it out.
      Om mani padme hum.

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      Truth is a lie, it's just another illusion, why attatch yourself to it?
      Since everything is an illusion, the dreaming state is no different than the waking state, what truth can be found? Getting to know how the illusion works will get you out of the illusion completely.
      Om mani padme hum.

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      Originally posted by Potential
      I ROCK!
      The only thing you do is wreak of the decaying walls you try to put up as a facade. Buddhist, you are not. Spiritual, you are not. Compassionate, you are not. Loving, you are not. What is certain is that the only religion you have shown that you practice is one of invigorating your own self ego.

      Either come out of the shadows and be the real person you have already shown yourself to be, or be gone from this place. All of humanity wreaks from the foulness of your breath.
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      Potential,

      I do not intend to attack you, but I must say that you are not acting very buddhist. A true buddhist would not call other faiths "BS". A true buddhist would never attack others for their believes in whatever way. He would smile at them and try see the goodness in them. And not smash christianity into the ground like you are now. Take the Dalai Lama for example. He encourages other religions to continue practicing their faith because religion is beautiful, regardless of which. because he knows that they too can practice compassion and kindness without nessasarily practicing buddhist 'rituals'(so to speak). He knows that compassion, love and kindness are the things that matter most. Just like I believe that. (note I dont believe that because he says that, I believe that because my heart tells me so).

      I ask of you to please reconsider your attitude towards other religions and ways of thinking. I know that there are certain individuals out there that like to bash other faiths but that doesnt mean you how to counter with the same sort of action. Did the buddha not preach to remove hate and anger from our beings, now, you shouldnt feel hatred or anger for these others. Like I sense you do at times. (Dont simply banish them of course..but I assume you know that if you are familiar with buddhism)

      Again, I have no intention whatsoever of bringing you down. But please, try and understand where I am coming from. I really do hope you find what you are looking for, like I hope for every single person from whatever religion in the universe. As long as you stick to those values I mentioned, you cant go wrong
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      Ok, I'll try to be a little better, man did I get carried away. I think I have a big problem with Rejection.
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      Originally posted by dream&#045;scape
      Go fuck your demon-god!
      Oh you want talk more huh?! Man forget it, your useless, I'm not going let you ruin my day.
      Om mani padme hum.

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      Guys, try to calm down a little. Seems everyone has let emotion creep into this discussion.

      Don't make me lock this topic.
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      Oh you want talk more huh?! Man forget it, your useless, I'm not going let you ruin my day. [/b]
      I think someone else may have beaten DS to the punch. You seemed to have entered this forum with a chip on your shoulder and a flimsy "cut & paste" argument to defend that chip.

      I see this so very often on other legitimate debate forums...where an individual gets his/her feelings (ego) hurt and then takes whatever argument/opinion that they may have had and tries to push it onto a forum that may offer less resistance to said opinion.

      Anyways, I'm glad I'm not the only person that noticed his transparent intentions and motivations...Kudos to Dream-scape. :bravo:
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      Originally posted by Potential+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Potential)</div>
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      Go fuck your demon-god!
      Oh you want talk more huh?! Man forget it, your useless, I'm not going let you ruin my day. [/b]
      I never wrote that or anything that implied that, so I will kindly ask you once again to stop being deceptive and misleading.
      Insanity is the new avant-garde.

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      I've enjoyed this thread very much.
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