Thread: The Illuminati's plan to wipe out Christianity

Originally Posted by mcwillis

It was in retalliation for the brutal bombardment of civilians by the 6th fleet in Lebanon in the 1980's

That may be true, but where does it say that people must have only ONE motive?
My claim stands.

Christianity is doing a bang-up job on wiping itself out of existence. The world is a dynamic place. Things evolve. We will evolve. It is extremely important to put your personal ego aside and just go for the ride.

Yep,

sense enjoyment is the highest now in the Christian worlds, still I think we can change that by good leadership and normal propaganda instead of having Islam over to wipe it out

Originally Posted by erick

Yep,

sense enjoyment is the highest now in the Christian worlds, still I think we can change that by good leadership and normal propaganda instead of having Islam over to wipe it out

Mr. Erick,
Before throwing garbage and saying that illuminati brought muslims at least get your logic right. On what basis do you have this claim? You did,nt even have the correct knowledge about illuminati. Let me tell you what illuminati actually is. Illuminati is controlling Israel and American government. Your shit military killing,torturing and murdering in our lands as an example First Iraq, then Afghanistan now coming to Pakistan and hopefully then Iran. This is illuminati trying to wipe out Islam but Islam will never wipe out. We are dying defending it and will defend it till our last breath. Your illogical false contradictory religion has no solid foundations and you people made arrangements in your own scripture thousands years ago now don,t blame muslim when your hand edit shit is not working. People excepting Islam themselves because they saw its truth no one forcing them instead who convert to Islam has serious penalty from illuminati your government who don,t want them to get Nikaab or pray in mosque understand!. So pls my request don,t throw fake false illogical garbage.

The Illuminati is doing all of this to fuck your brains over and then you blame the Christians and then you're developped the plan to wipe out Christianity, simple.......Illuminati and Islam is working together to wipe out Christianity, simple, Illluminati is giving Islam world domination, just like they did with Hitler and his nazi's to wipe out the Jews, now, you can cry over your muzzie lands being invaded and you will use your Jihad to get back at Christians, simple, it's in the Koran and you cannot deny this......Illuminati will be in control of you before they get wiped out.....

Your leaders are corrupt, our leaders are corrupt, they are all Illuminati cocksuckers.......

Originally Posted by erick

The Illuminati is doing all of this to fuck your brains over and then you blame the Christians and then you're developped the plan to wipe out Christianity, simple.......Illuminati and Islam is working together to wipe out Christianity, simple, Illluminati is giving Islam world domination, just like they did with Hitler and his nazi's to wipe out the Jews, now, you can cry over your muzzie lands being invaded and you will use your Jihad to get back at Christians, simple, it's in the Koran and you cannot deny this......Illuminati will be in control of you before they get wiped out.....

Are you Ph.D in throwing garbage?
When you saw that people like Islam and they are converting to it because of its true nature you start burning because Islam is not like your false illogical jumbled garbage full of homosexual popes. When you saw Islam is build on solid foundations and better then any other religion of the world then you find another excuse based on your low level thinking that illuminati is using Islam to wipe out christianity. Tell me what is christianity? As i know christianity is like (1+1+1=1 ) that really make sense for crackheads like you but not for us.
You only want to wipe out Islam and thats what the goal of Illuminati is. I am feeling a warning in my heart that you hate Islam and wants to wipe it out thats what Illuminati engineered in your brainless space. We muslims did,nt even know what you think about us but we know that you people hate us and want to kill us and our religion thats why you said these burning words. The reality is you and illuminati want to destroy Islam thats why you bomb our homes kill our children destroy our mosques and call it a progress in war. You people don,t want us to worship in mosques its your country where Islam and its teachings are banned . You people are with your government and your government is under control of illuminati the Live example of this is you yourself Mr. Erick . But know this when Islam will rise again there will be no christianity no illuminati no judaism. Islam will restore peace in world again. And the world once again will be free of illogical garbage and ignorant hateful crackheads like you. You people broke your illogical toy yourself and now blaming muslims?Killing innocents in Islam is forbidden thats what i read in Islam. And fight with those in the way of God who attack us is jihad in Islam. so i think you are quoting the word jihad out of context mixing it with your biased knowledge that comes from your burning hateful heart full of lies. Nice logic Crackhead.

But know this when Islam will rise again there will be no christianity no illuminati no judaism

I love you so much

Originally Posted by erick

I love you so much

I love you too crackhead. Islam means submission to the will of God and thats what all prophets did. So now its your time you are trying wipe out Islam but Islam is spreading more and more not because illuminati doing this but because People like Islam in your own countries. When Islam will cover the whole world its a obvious fact that there will be no christianity no illuminati no judaism and the world will worship only one true God. So get some logic atleast Mr. Erick .

Sure, dude

Originally Posted by erick

Sure, dude

I also said that killing innocents in Islam is forbidden. I knew that you people talk so much about love but spread hatred by quoting things out of context. Same thing haters do always.

You guys are both failing adherence to the principles tenants of your existence. Time for a self check.

I also said that killing innocents in Islam is forbidden. I knew that you people talk so much about love but spread hatred by quoting things out of context. Same thing haters do always.

Tell that to the vicitims of the Armenian genocide, more than one million innocent Christian Armenians were slaughtered for no reason by muzzies in 1915 ->

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

Originally Posted by erick

Tell that to the vicitims of the Armenian genocide, more than one million innocent Christian Armenians were slaughtered for no reason by muzzies in 1915 ->

Armenian National Institute

Go ask your russian friends who did this. Muslims have nothing to do with this. Find more sites which are good to defame Islam. And throw your lovely garbage somewhere else. Also you people are the one again who killed dozens of muslims in russia without any reason by just saying muslims do not belong here. So you brutally killed all kinds of muslims there including turkick, african ,vietnamese and russian muslims of course. Don,t show your love story. And answer the first war that you people started against Islam in which 255000 muslims tortured and murdered and still they are torturing and murdering them up today. But media is like ooo i don,t know what happen. Because is with you and illuminati. And keep these links to yourself. You people are still enemies of humanity.
Look here your so called freedom fighters and saviour of humanity:
http://thewe.cc/

PureSoul, you are in denial about the Armenian Genocide. It happened and is well documented. Stop lying to us and yourself.

Originally Posted by Warheit

PureSoul, you are in denial about the Armenian Genocide. It happened and is well documented. Stop lying to us and yourself.

So is it Islam teaches to kill or your washed mind takes Islam the culprit? What Islam has to do with those killings in fact you people are murdering muslims constantly from the era of crusades and before the crusades till today? What about millions of dead tortured muslims then? You think its only you who is human and muslims are like animals to you. So does this justifies the killing and mass murder of muslims all over the world and in russia 255000 muslims alone? Mass murder in Iraq, Afghanistan,Africa and Yemen now Pakistan and then Iran. The number you killed is far more greater then the number muslims ever did and anyone who kills an innocent is not a muslim in Islam by the way if you really have a good observation i think you will understand.

Originally Posted by PureSoul

So is it Islam teaches to kill or your washed mind takes Islam the culprit? What Islam has to do with those killings in fact you people are murdering muslims constantly from the era of crusades and before the crusades till today? What about millions of dead tortured muslims then? You think its only you who is human and muslims are like animals to you. So does this justifies the killing and mass murder of muslims all over the world and in russia 255000 muslims alone? Mass murder in Iraq, Afghanistan,Africa and Yemen now Pakistan and then Iran. The number you killed is far more greater then the number muslims ever did and anyone who kills an innocent is not a muslim in Islam by the way if you really have a good observation i think you will understand.

First, I never said Islam teaches to kill. Stop putting words in my mouth. Second, do not address me as "you killed" -- because I am not adherent to any religion. I am not a Christian. I am me. I have never killed anybody and preach non-violence and tolerance towards all people, from all walks of life.

I presented the fact that under the Ottoman Empire, they intended to eradicate Christian minorities (which is what Armenians were) for a myriad of reasons, mostly from the belief of those in power that Christians at that time (the minority) were not afforded the same social and civil rights as Muslims. In over a twenty year period, Armenians in Ottoman / Anatolian Turkey ceased to exist. Millions died under falsified pretenses. That is a historical fact supported by historians, researchers and ardent students of the human condition. It is reinforced through official representation from countries the world over. Thousands of pictures and memoirs exist that display these events. You cannot refute it.

The sword goes both ways throughout history. No educated person would argue that Christians have not persecuted Muslims. People have used religion as weapon throughout humankind's existence on Earth. Your refusal to acknowledge and accept this is troubling. Furthermore, where I disagree with the implementations and actions concerning the Global War on Terror -- it was and is not being done in the name of religion or for religious purposes. And I am not going to get into the stupid argument of "Your kind killed more than ours." You are grasping at straws.

It is time for you to be an adult and grow up. You are purposely misrepresenting history because you have a myopic worldview and refuse universal love and tolerance. I pray that you will change, because as long as people act like you and think like you -- things will not change for the better. Your actions beget the same course in history. It is shameful.

Originally Posted by Warheit

First, I never said Islam teaches to kill. Stop putting words in my mouth. Second, do not address me as "you killed" -- because I am not adherent to any religion. I am me. I have never killed anybody and preach non-violence and tolerance towards all people, from all walks of life.

I presented the fact that under the Ottoman Empire, they intended to eradicate Christian minorities (which is what Armenians were) for a myriad of reasons, mostly from the belief of those in power that Christians at that time (the minority) were not afforded the same social and civil rights as Muslims. That is a historical fact supported by historians, researchers and ardent students of the human condition. It is furthermore reinforced through official representation from countries the world over. Thousands of pictures and memoirs exist that display these events. In over a twenty year period, Armenians in Ottoman / Anatolian Turkey ceased to exist. Millions died under falsified pretenses.

The sword goes both ways throughout history. No educated person would argue that Christians have not persecuted Muslims. People have used religion as weapon throughout humankind's existence on Earth. Your refusal to acknowledge and accept this is troubling. Furthermore, where I disagree with the implementations and actions concerning the Global War on Terror -- it was and is not being done in the name of religion or for religious purposes.

It is time for you to be an adult and grow up. You are purposely misrepresenting history because you have a myopic worldview and refuse universal love and tolerance. I pray that you will change, because as long as people act like you and think like you -- things will not change for the better. Your actions beget the same course in history. It is shameful.

Get your facts right and grow up. Sign is enough for intelligent once. I think you will understand what i mean by "you killed". So stop making lies and stop thinking you are the smart one. Get your facts right muslims never use religion as their weapon its only you people who started wars on the name of religion called"crusades". And today these war you "people" i used the world people because you don,t have enough logic. So today these wars you people are fighting with us are known as modern crusades commonly dedicated to American and european countries against hateful muslims all over the world.lol
Don,t think we muslims are like you who mispresent things and mix them with lies. People like you posses no logic they have no logic because they are engineered. And you belong to no religion that make your more narrow minded instead of being open minded yet you take side of your people because you think your community is the truthful one and that they have more knowledge then anyone else. Your eyes will open someday and i hope so. I hope you blind heart will open someday and you will make a difference someday among innocent and cruel. Hidden truth and falsehood envelope inside the curtain of truth. Yes i got it you are the educated one and i am the ignorant one .lol You want to make peace? You did,nt even know what is peace. I love those who have open mind. So for now peace. Stop thats enough of you. I don,t want your explanations anymore. Peace be with you.

Warheit,

well said

PureSoul,

Mass murder in Iraq, Afghanistan,Africa

I wanna say something about Africa :

Slavery in the Arab World
Murray Gordon

New Amsterdam Books, New York, NY 1989

In his fact-filled work on the history of the Muslim Arab slave trade in Africa, Murray Gordon notes that this trade pre-dated the European Christian African slave trade by a thousand years and continued for more than a century after the Europeans had abolished the practice. Gordon estimates the number of slaves “harvested” from Black Africa over the period of the Muslim Arab slave trade at 11 million – roughly equal to the number taken by European Christians for their colonies in the New World.

“Despite the long history of slavery in the Arab World and in other Muslim lands, little has been written about this tragedy,” writes Gordon in his introduction. “Except for the few abolitionists, mainly in England, who railed against Arab slavery and put pressure upon Western governments to end the traffic in slaves, the issue has all but been ignored in the West.”

‘Conspiracy of Silence’ on Arab Slave Trade
Gordon decries a “conspiracy of silence. . .[that] has blocked out all light on this sensitive subject.” Among scholars in the Arab world, the author points out, “No moral opprobrium has clung to slavery since it was sanctioned by the Koran and enjoyed an undisputed place in Arab society.”

The book starts out with a brief outline of the growth of the Islamic attitude toward slavery. There is no evidence that Muhammad sought to abolish slavery, notes Gordon, although he urged slave-owners to treat their slaves well and grant them freedom as a meritorious deed.

“Some Muslim scholars have taken this to mean that his true motive was to bring about a gradual elimination of slavery. Far more persuasive is the argument that by lending the moral authority of Islam to slavery, Muhammad assured its legitimacy. Thus, in lightening the fetter, he riveted it ever more firmly in place.”



High Rate of Black African Casualties
While Gordon acknowledges that at times the Islamic version of slavery could be more “humane” than the European colonial version, he provides many facts which point out that the Muslim variety of slavery could be extremely cruel as well.

One particularly brutal practice was the mutilation of young African boys, sometimes no more than 9 or ten years old, to create eunuchs, who brought a higher price in the slave markets of the Middle East. Slave traders often created “eunuch stations” along the major African slave routes where the necessary surgery was performed in unsanitary conditions. Gordon estimates that only one out of every 10 boys subjected to the mutilation actually survived the surgery.

The taking of slaves – in razzias, or raids, on peaceful African villages – also had a high casualty rate. Gordon notes that the typical practice was to conduct a pre-dawn raid on an unsuspecting village and kill off as many of the men and older women as possible. Young women and children were then abducted as the preferred “booty” for the raiders.

Young women were targeted because of their value as concubines or sex slaves in markets. “The most common and enduring purpose for acquiring slaves in the Arab world was to exploit them for sexual purposes,” writes Gordon. “These women were nothing less than sexual objects who, with some limitations, were expected to make themselves available to their owners. . .Islamic law, as already noted, catered to the sexual interests of a man by allowing him to take as many as four wives at one time and to have as many concubines as his purse allowed.” Young women and girls were often “inspected” before purchase in private areas of the slave market by the prospective buyer.



Racism Toward Black Africans
Some of Gordon’s research disputes the oft-repeated charge that racism did not play a part in Islamic slave society. While it is true that the Muslims of the Middle East took slaves of all colors and ethnicities, they considered white slaves more valuable than black ones and developed racist attitudes toward the darker skinned people.

Even the famous Arab philosopher Ibn Khaldun, expressed racist attitudes toward black Africans: “The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and their proximity to the animal stage,” Khaldun wrote. Another Arab writer, of the 14th Century, asked: “Is there anything more vile than black slaves, of less good and more evil than they?”

Gordon covers the Arab/African slave trades up until the mid-20th Century, noting that Saudi Arabia only abolished the practice in the early 1960s. Unlike the European nations and the USA, the Arab nations did not abolish African slavery voluntarily out of moral conscience, but due to considerable economic and military pressure applied by the great colonial powers of time, France and Britain. Slavery is still practiced in two Islamic nations: The Sudan and Mauritania.

And this :

The Arab Muslim Slave Trade Of Africans, The Untold Story - YouTube

In other words :

WE bought THEM from YOU !!!

Originally Posted by erick

Warheit,

well said

PureSoul,



I wanna say something about Africa :

Slavery in the Arab World
Murray Gordon

New Amsterdam Books, New York, NY 1989

In his fact-filled work on the history of the Muslim Arab slave trade in Africa, Murray Gordon notes that this trade pre-dated the European Christian African slave trade by a thousand years and continued for more than a century after the Europeans had abolished the practice. Gordon estimates the number of slaves “harvested” from Black Africa over the period of the Muslim Arab slave trade at 11 million – roughly equal to the number taken by European Christians for their colonies in the New World.

“Despite the long history of slavery in the Arab World and in other Muslim lands, little has been written about this tragedy,” writes Gordon in his introduction. “Except for the few abolitionists, mainly in England, who railed against Arab slavery and put pressure upon Western governments to end the traffic in slaves, the issue has all but been ignored in the West.”

‘Conspiracy of Silence’ on Arab Slave Trade
Gordon decries a “conspiracy of silence. . .[that] has blocked out all light on this sensitive subject.” Among scholars in the Arab world, the author points out, “No moral opprobrium has clung to slavery since it was sanctioned by the Koran and enjoyed an undisputed place in Arab society.”

The book starts out with a brief outline of the growth of the Islamic attitude toward slavery. There is no evidence that Muhammad sought to abolish slavery, notes Gordon, although he urged slave-owners to treat their slaves well and grant them freedom as a meritorious deed.

“Some Muslim scholars have taken this to mean that his true motive was to bring about a gradual elimination of slavery. Far more persuasive is the argument that by lending the moral authority of Islam to slavery, Muhammad assured its legitimacy. Thus, in lightening the fetter, he riveted it ever more firmly in place.”



High Rate of Black African Casualties
While Gordon acknowledges that at times the Islamic version of slavery could be more “humane” than the European colonial version, he provides many facts which point out that the Muslim variety of slavery could be extremely cruel as well.

One particularly brutal practice was the mutilation of young African boys, sometimes no more than 9 or ten years old, to create eunuchs, who brought a higher price in the slave markets of the Middle East. Slave traders often created “eunuch stations” along the major African slave routes where the necessary surgery was performed in unsanitary conditions. Gordon estimates that only one out of every 10 boys subjected to the mutilation actually survived the surgery.

The taking of slaves – in razzias, or raids, on peaceful African villages – also had a high casualty rate. Gordon notes that the typical practice was to conduct a pre-dawn raid on an unsuspecting village and kill off as many of the men and older women as possible. Young women and children were then abducted as the preferred “booty” for the raiders.

Young women were targeted because of their value as concubines or sex slaves in markets. “The most common and enduring purpose for acquiring slaves in the Arab world was to exploit them for sexual purposes,” writes Gordon. “These women were nothing less than sexual objects who, with some limitations, were expected to make themselves available to their owners. . .Islamic law, as already noted, catered to the sexual interests of a man by allowing him to take as many as four wives at one time and to have as many concubines as his purse allowed.” Young women and girls were often “inspected” before purchase in private areas of the slave market by the prospective buyer.



Racism Toward Black Africans
Some of Gordon’s research disputes the oft-repeated charge that racism did not play a part in Islamic slave society. While it is true that the Muslims of the Middle East took slaves of all colors and ethnicities, they considered white slaves more valuable than black ones and developed racist attitudes toward the darker skinned people.

Even the famous Arab philosopher Ibn Khaldun, expressed racist attitudes toward black Africans: “The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and their proximity to the animal stage,” Khaldun wrote. Another Arab writer, of the 14th Century, asked: “Is there anything more vile than black slaves, of less good and more evil than they?”

Gordon covers the Arab/African slave trades up until the mid-20th Century, noting that Saudi Arabia only abolished the practice in the early 1960s. Unlike the European nations and the USA, the Arab nations did not abolish African slavery voluntarily out of moral conscience, but due to considerable economic and military pressure applied by the great colonial powers of time, France and Britain. Slavery is still practiced in two Islamic nations: The Sudan and Mauritania.

I did,nt ask you to throw crap history on me made by your own crappy researcher. You people always shit hard inside history. What makes you think i am gonna believe on this shit? I have searched more then you know about me. I don,t believe this shit mixed research of yours or your people made only for you. I just ask can you justify the killings of muslims from decades till today? Still you don,t seem to understand. The countries murdering now and spreading violence all over the world are your countries and in past history the real murderers are you people. You people are the one to kill black people. Black people has a very sad history with you people. You people murdered degrade and tortured black people in history by time they convert to Islam as Islam is the only solution to their problem. Now don,t throw your false hand made shit research based on lie. Its only waste of time to talk with ignorant like you.

Originally Posted by erick

And this :

The Arab Muslim Slave Trade Of Africans, The Untold Story - YouTube

Mr.Erick,
Go gargle garbage somewhere else. Stop giving false shit propaganda videos. I can give you an example of your own hand made shit to blame muslims. I saw a banned video named terrorists in which some muslims were slaughtering a muslim men lol. They cut his head. After few weeks it came in research that they were Indian agents in cloaks of muslim and they received money from your so called American government to spread hatred against Islam.

Of course there is false propaganda, I believe in cooperation of the American Government with Al-Qaida to blow up the Twin Towers, I believe the Americans knew about it and made it worse by blowing up the Twin Towers and building 7 at least, of course there is false propaganda, but you act like muslims are the most peaceful people on earth and that Islam has never done something bad, that's just not true !! Islam is NOT the definative answer !!