Thread: "God cares about you..." Sure...

BeautifulDreamer, from what I gather from your posts, you are only talking about a certain interpretation of god. Although this type of god could be disproven in an essay (because it obviously doesn't make sense, and therefore doesn't need to be disproven to anyone who can think for themselves), to suggest that God in the true sense could be disproven in an essay is absolutely ridiculous. Now if you don't know of any other interpretation than the one you are arguing against (which your posts would suggest - since you have replied to people in this way even though they aren't talking about the same God), Leo provided you with a good starting point. It is incredibly dangerous to place all interpretations of God into one thing, as your replies make absolutely no sense in relation to what you are replying to.

Basically my theory is that God is evil. God apparently created all according the Christian religion. In the book it says that God didn't create evil, evil is just the absence of good, and in a sense doesn't exist. Well even if evil doesn't exist this means God made it so humans are capable of being absent off good. This means that God gave us the capabilities to be evil. Then some will argue if God did not do this we would not have free will. This is true, but there were many other options He could of taken. One option being that in the absence of good someone did not behave “evil”, but behaved more humorous, or they behaved confused, the list could go on. Going by the Christian religion God is all-powerful meaning He can do all, but I feel most people don’t have a grasp of how much all is. If this statement is true this means God can logic and reality. If he were to alter reality, so that being absent of good wasn’t even an option or being absent of good was not even part of reality there would be no such thing as evil. This entire theory would be on nothing. This leads me to my next point, some of you may be asking “So what, who cares if I can do evil I like to curse, fight, jack off. Etc. etc.” According to the Christian religion God is good, He is the definition of good, there is no greater good than God. Well in this current society we know that there are many problems in this planet; such as, murder, rape, and poverty. Well if God is so good then why would he allow this to continue, He could of simply made it a better place, but chose not to. Then some may argue “maybe this is the best way”, this is obviously not the best way considering the entire human race is always battling between doing what is right and wrong and going by Christianity all our morals came from God. This brings me to my final point, if God really is so good then why does He allow “absence of good”, one because He is evil and wants it to be this way, or two because He is incapable of changing it, which makes him a liar which is evil according to his rule God, or maybe three He plain old does not exist.

God gives God's self free will. Thus, we have free will. To take that away at any point would be to deny God of free will, a strange thing for God do I would think.

Originally posted by BeautifulDreamer
Basically my theory is that God is evil. God apparently created all according the Christian religion. In the book it says that God didn't create evil, evil is just the absence of good, and in a sense doesn't exist. Well even if evil doesn't exist this means God made it so humans are capable of being absent off good. This means that God gave us the capabilities to be evil. Then some will argue if God did not do this we would not have free will. This is true, but there were many other options He could of taken. One option being that in the absence of good someone did not behave “evil”, but behaved more humorous, or they behaved confused, the list could go on. Going by the Christian religion God is all-powerful meaning He can do all, but I feel most people don’t have a grasp of how much all is. If this statement is true this means God can logic and reality. If he were to alter reality, so that being absent of good wasn’t even an option or being absent of good was not even part of reality there would be no such thing as evil. This entire theory would be on nothing. This leads me to my next point, some of you may be asking “So what, who cares if I can do evil I like to curse, fight, jack off. Etc. etc.” According to the Christian religion God is good, He is the definition of good, there is no greater good than God. Well in this current society we know that there are many problems in this planet; such as, murder, rape, and poverty. Well if God is so good then why would he allow this to continue, He could of simply made it a better place, but chose not to. Then some may argue “maybe this is the best way”, this is obviously not the best way considering the entire human race is always battling between doing what is right and wrong and going by Christianity all our morals came from God. This brings me to my final point, if God really is so good then why does He allow “absence of good”, one because He is evil and wants it to be this way, or two because He is incapable of changing it, which makes him a liar which is evil according to his rule God, or maybe three He plain old does not exist.

omg, this topic has been soo thoroughly discussed in another thread, by Universal Mind. I would refer you to my posts in the Is God Infinetely Powerful Thread, in the religion forum... aAII!!! we keep getting back to this topic again and again... so debateble too... later

I know for a fact that god does not exist.

Originally posted by wombing

*and ultimately, i think the burden is upon the atheists to disprove all purpose in the universe. i mean, a fundamental aspect of human nature (presently at the very least) *is the need for meaning. *'god' is essentially purpose "personified".

No. I cannot disprove that. No one can. It's impossible to disprove that the universe has no 'purpose'. Firstly, we don't even have any idea what this purported 'purpose' is or might be. I cannot disprove something that is not clearly defined.

We also cannot prove something that is clearly defined. Obviously, we must first come up with some idea of what this purpose is before any attempts can be made to prove it.

But since such a claim cannot be disproven, burden of proof falls on the ones making the claim. Asking me to disprove the 'purpose' of the universe would be tantamount to me asking you the to disprove the purpose of why iced cream tastes good.

I cannot think of a single shred of evidence or reason that supports the idea that existence has some inherent purpose, just as I cannot think of such to support the idea that iced cream tasting good has some purpose.

I honestly believe that looking for some mysterious 'purpose' of the universe is a waste of time.

No he's a sadistic prat who enjoys in the pain of others, he created satan so that peopel would see him evil and so when they died he could look at their faces twisted in pain, as they learned they had been forsaken, he is evil in all forms that finds no happiness greater than misery and spite

God created everything, then sent Jesus to heal the diseases he made, making him seem good. I think God created everything just for entertainment though, I think he would kill a person just to have a round number or something, like a person might on a game.