Thread: Satanism: The Worlds True Religion?

On December 23 on the morning after the solstice Father Satan and his demons orders all his people to start meditating that there was changes about to happened to keep meditating . Father Satan speaks and informed his people it's time to move forward with all of us together our mind is unstoppable we can conquered the impossible. All my people we have the power to communicate with the aliens God's telepathic that how they gonna know you from the Christian and the jews all religious leaders most die and political leaders most die. The aliens God's are coming my people hear me communicate with them use your mind they are here to help and to reclaim Egypt a the pyramids around world for the pyramids have special power and secrets within them. First Father Satan said I most destroyed the Vatican and reclaim my stolen ancient notes! Then destroyed all Jews all Muslims and all Christian. As the years went by satan and his aliens god claimed victory over them all. The Vatican was destroyed by Satan himself destroyed all the priests and Pope's as they beg for mercy! Satan speaks today is a day to celebrate victory is ours the Vatican is no more the lies of the false god is no more ! The aliens god and satan army of demons destroyed all the jews as cried out for there false god. All political party fell and all the nation of world crumpled to the hands of satan people. As the years passed new nation where built in the honor of satan and his demon that aliens god work was done here like thousand years early they where gone new pyramids in Egypt where built in honor of them. Father Satan call to his people now advance my people communicate wirh the other beings study the stars look out in to space learn ny people the pyramids are inline with portal in space with can make time and space travel possible communicate with your mind. As the years pass the people of the new world learned the stars and the aliments of the all themM started traveling and other beings from other galaxies came here the advancement of man had progress to a higher level. Father Satan and aliens god like what they see. The world is no longer held back by Christianity lies. © copyright nathjdar vision 2011

Originally Posted by natan666

On December 23 on the morning after the solstice Father Satan and his demons orders all his people to start meditating that there was changes about to happened to keep meditating . Father Satan speaks and informed his people it's time to move forward with all of us together our mind is unstoppable we can conquered the impossible. All my people we have the power to communicate with the aliens God's telepathic that how they gonna know you from the Christian and the jews all religious leaders most die and political leaders most die. The aliens God's are coming my people hear me communicate with them use your mind they are here to help and to reclaim Egypt a the pyramids around world for the pyramids have special power and secrets within them. First Father Satan said I most destroyed the Vatican and reclaim my stolen ancient notes! Then destroyed all Jews all Muslims and all Christian. As the years went by satan and his aliens god claimed victory over them all. The Vatican was destroyed by Satan himself destroyed all the priests and Pope's as they beg for mercy! Satan speaks today is a day to celebrate victory is ours the Vatican is no more the lies of the false god is no more ! The aliens god and satan army of demons destroyed all the jews as cried out for there false god. All political party fell and all the nation of world crumpled to the hands of satan people. As the years passed new nation where built in the honor of satan and his demon that aliens god work was done here like thousand years early they where gone new pyramids in Egypt where built in honor of them. Father Satan call to his people now advance my people communicate wirh the other beings study the stars look out in to space learn ny people the pyramids are inline with portal in space with can make time and space travel possible communicate with your mind. As the years pass the people of the new world learned the stars and the aliments of the all themM started traveling and other beings from other galaxies came here the advancement of man had progress to a higher level. Father Satan and aliens god like what they see. The world is no longer held back by Christianity lies. © copyright nathjdar vision 2011

Words fail me.

Originally Posted by natan666

On December 23 on the morning after the solstice Father Satan and his demons orders all his people to start meditating that there was changes about to happened to keep meditating . Father Satan speaks and informed his people it's time to move forward with all of us together our mind is unstoppable we can conquered the impossible. All my people we have the power to communicate with the aliens God's telepathic that how they gonna know you from the Christian and the jews all religious leaders most die and political leaders most die. The aliens God's are coming my people hear me communicate with them use your mind they are here to help and to reclaim Egypt a the pyramids around world for the pyramids have special power and secrets within them. First Father Satan said I most destroyed the Vatican and reclaim my stolen ancient notes! Then destroyed all Jews all Muslims and all Christian. As the years went by satan and his aliens god claimed victory over them all. The Vatican was destroyed by Satan himself destroyed all the priests and Pope's as they beg for mercy! Satan speaks today is a day to celebrate victory is ours the Vatican is no more the lies of the false god is no more ! The aliens god and satan army of demons destroyed all the jews as cried out for there false god. All political party fell and all the nation of world crumpled to the hands of satan people. As the years passed new nation where built in the honor of satan and his demon that aliens god work was done here like thousand years early they where gone new pyramids in Egypt where built in honor of them. Father Satan call to his people now advance my people communicate wirh the other beings study the stars look out in to space learn ny people the pyramids are inline with portal in space with can make time and space travel possible communicate with your mind. As the years pass the people of the new world learned the stars and the aliments of the all themM started traveling and other beings from other galaxies came here the advancement of man had progress to a higher level. Father Satan and aliens god like what they see. The world is no longer held back by Christianity lies. © copyright nathjdar vision 2011

I don't think you have to worry about copyright, your crazy is already a trademark.

Originally Posted by natan666

On December 23 on the morning after the solstice Father Satan and his demons orders all his people to start meditating that there was changes about to happened to keep meditating . Father Satan speaks and informed his people it's time to move forward with all of us together our mind is unstoppable we can conquered the impossible. All my people we have the power to communicate with the aliens God's telepathic that how they gonna know you from the Christian and the jews all religious leaders most die and political leaders most die. The aliens God's are coming my people hear me communicate with them use your mind they are here to help and to reclaim Egypt a the pyramids around world for the pyramids have special power and secrets within them. First Father Satan said I most destroyed the Vatican and reclaim my stolen ancient notes! Then destroyed all Jews all Muslims and all Christian. As the years went by satan and his aliens god claimed victory over them all. The Vatican was destroyed by Satan himself destroyed all the priests and Pope's as they beg for mercy! Satan speaks today is a day to celebrate victory is ours the Vatican is no more the lies of the false god is no more ! The aliens god and satan army of demons destroyed all the jews as cried out for there false god. All political party fell and all the nation of world crumpled to the hands of satan people. As the years passed new nation where built in the honor of satan and his demon that aliens god work was done here like thousand years early they where gone new pyramids in Egypt where built in honor of them. Father Satan call to his people now advance my people communicate wirh the other beings study the stars look out in to space learn ny people the pyramids are inline with portal in space with can make time and space travel possible communicate with your mind. As the years pass the people of the new world learned the stars and the aliments of the all themM started traveling and other beings from other galaxies came here the advancement of man had progress to a higher level. Father Satan and aliens god like what they see. The world is no longer held back by Christianity lies. © copyright nathjdar vision 2011

Okay. First of all: walls of text aren't cool, try to break it into paragraphs. Second point: learn when to punctuate. Third: no offense, but that was kind of a confusing mess of words, I just couldn't follow and I'm not even sure why it was posted.


EDIT: Oh yeah, I should probably write something on topic and not merely give writing lessons. o.o
I don't think there is a true religion. People should make up their own minds on what they think created us and why. To some degree people already do this, I know a few self-proclaimed Christians who believe in something entirely deviant of the biblical god. It just makes more sense to do that, really. There's no way of proving which religion has the true god (if it exists) and it's not like people are going to follow the rules anyhow. People do what they will most times, and then they justify it by saying their holy texts (whatever they may be) aren't to be taken literally. I figure if people aren't really going to follow their religion they way it was meant to be followed they ought to make their own.

But that's not something easily qualified. For instance you could argued (as I have in this forum) that if you follow the parts of the bible which conflict with what Christ taught, you're not actually a Christian but a Biblican. To be a Christian, you can ignore like 90% of the bible, including much of the new testament, but you also have to follow a bunch of works which would be considered blasphemy from Biblicans because they were never included by the bible but clearly exemplify much of Christ's teachings, like the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Anyways you get kudos for responding seriously to a wall of text about aliens and shit. But this thread is going to be locked soon for being rezzed from 6 years ago so your work is futile.

To the original post:
You are no better than any other faith. The evidence is always elusive, the facts are always stretched to fit your own worldview and ideology.

I admire the fighting spirit. I agree with some of the nonreligious points. Satanism tells a good story, but that, sir, is not evidence enough. What a mockery of human intelligence. The pyramids? A testament to us, to our achievements, to our ancient kin who still watched the sky and wondered. I will not respect the kind of trash that takes away from the true, honest work of humanity. You want to build up people, your heart is in the right place. But bettering humanity does not mean believing every interesting story set in front of you.

This has done the opposite of its intent. It is an insult to the works of man, to the sciences and philosophies which we, ourselves, have struggled so earnestly to conceive of and develop. We have grown so much, but this places us in the hands of yet another pantheon. I am sorry that you feel you need a god to look to. I suggest you look around you-- to people, to history, to the sciences. These are noble things, from these we can forge our future and decrypt our past. Not through washed up old fables such as yours.

This comment is an answer to dreammask's comment.

Okay. That's just plain false. First, "Satanism" does not predate Christianity, let alone all other religions. For one thing, the origins of the word "Satan" is a Christian one, so it is impossible for Satanism to predate Christianity and Christian terminology. The other ridiculous thing about this is that determining what religions were the "first" religions is pretty much impossible to do (I just got my Anthroplogy bachelor's degree and I studied religion in cultural and archaeological anthropology).

If you have did a little more research you would have read about the true origins of the name of Satan.Satan is used way before the Jews did.It was a Sumer word meaning enlightenment what correspond well with the Christian name Lucifer (Lux Cifer=Light bringer).The way it calls itself the first religion is mostly faith based and can only prove itself if you believe its other points.

The main Gods who interacted with humanity and are our creators (through genetic engineering) are the race of Gods known as the Nordics.

the people obviously didnt knew back then what genetic engineering was.We later proved that by doing our research on human genetics.(Hitler's main goal was that research and he even found lots of evidences what proved him).

Some are helpful to humans as are Satan and the Elder Gods who have been labeled as “Demons.”

The original meaning of the word demon comes from Greek meaning Spirit.Christianity made up this whole "evil spirit" stuff. So far i doubt you have any understanding upon this subject.

The original religions (long before the arrival of Judaism, Xianity, and Islam, which is an offshoot of xianity) all had one thing in common- the emphasis on the serpent. The serpent is the symbol of the kundalini, the DNA helix, wisdom, and knowledge.

JoS hates all Abrahamic religions not just xianity however it focuses its hatred on that because its the most aggressive.
The serpent was by the way revered not just as a symbol of rebirth but ascendence and much more (study egyptian mythology for example) You dont need to go back so much in time just open your eyes for a change.

Thousands of years ago, there was a time when human beings had power close to that of the Gods. This was when the Gods lived side by side with humanity.

*facepalm* And now i cant decide what hit you in the head when you wrote your comment. The site claimed they left us in the ice ages but lived with us before that.By before it could have been thousand of years living together before the ice age arrived.

“Satan” is the Hebrew word for “adversary” and anything opposed to this new doctrine was labeled as “satanic” or of the Devil.

One culture's words may be adopted you others you idiot. In Sumeric it is enlightenment in Hebrew its adversary.Just because one borrows doesnt mean he F**cking invented it!

Maybe these people need to study history and earth sciences, human sciences, and a little bit of logic.

You got all the points wrong and you didnt show any sign of reasonable logic.Now i understand why they say Satanism is for the thinking men.I would go back to the missed points and debunk your opinion about them but my head hurts from your stupidity.

Originally Posted by OutlawPig

To the original post:
You are no better than any other faith. The evidence is always elusive, the facts are always stretched to fit your own worldview and ideology.

I admire the fighting spirit. I agree with some of the nonreligious points. Satanism tells a good story, but that, sir, is not evidence enough. What a mockery of human intelligence. The pyramids? A testament to us, to our achievements, to our ancient kin who still watched the sky and wondered. I will not respect the kind of trash that takes away from the true, honest work of humanity. You want to build up people, your heart is in the right place. But bettering humanity does not mean believing every interesting story set in front of you.

This has done the opposite of its intent. It is an insult to the works of man, to the sciences and philosophies which we, ourselves, have struggled so earnestly to conceive of and develop. We have grown so much, but this places us in the hands of yet another pantheon. I am sorry that you feel you need a god to look to. I suggest you look around you-- to people, to history, to the sciences. These are noble things, from these we can forge our future and decrypt our past. Not through washed up old fables such as yours.

Satanism doesnt contribute our achievements to gods.It just acknowledges them and believes in the self aka the power from within.Satanism can be considered a celebrations of our achievements and our willpower.We doesnt derive our power from gods but from ourselves.Im saddened that such a good site gets unjustly degraded by people like you who dont even look past the surface. If you do your research JoS pieces it all together and it makes a perfect whole religion what can only benefit a person's spiritual growth.The comments on this thread are just mind numbingly bad just as every thread on other forums what is made to smear shit on JoS.I have worked with their meditations and i became a better more powerfull man and i can control energy in such a way that even strangers could feel it and acknowledge it. Its a religion what you once try you prove it to yourself by experience.Thats why its a superior religion.

You appear to be speaking of LeVayism, a pseudo-Satanism founded by an narcissistic compulsive liar (as with most religions).

I was into the Satanic Bible back in high school, I still have a copy floating around somewhere. Much like the work of Ayn Rand, it makes sound logical arguments until you actually begin to think about it more deeply. Furthermore, like I said I was into it back in high school, before I read the Secret Teachings of All Ages, or began studying Buddhism, Hermeticism, Gnosticism, Chaos Magic, etc. And now my perspective of LeVayism is that it's sophomoric, shallow and petty. You claim you are a more powerful being and people can feel your power because you've chosen to pursue the growth of your self, but if this self carries the same ignorant, naive definition it does in the Satanic Bible, I can only pray you read more and look deeper.

I don't mean to dishonor Satan, itself. For the Adversary is actually a powerful force for growth in the universe. My love for the shadow is as strong as my love for the light. What I find difficult to swallow is LeVay's version of Satanism, calling other religions out for attempting to deny our natural selves without even bothering to truly examine the depths of these religions but instead grazing over the surface of them and the corruption that took their hierarchies. Underneath the politics, all religions are one, and they all represent a path toward unveiling the real natural self and empowering the True Self. Something LeVay's heavy narcissism hindered him from ever getting a taste of.

I'm not trying to berate you, only show you that labeling yourself a Satanist doesn't mean you've completed the Path. And also warn you that humility is far more powerful than pride.

Hello.

Im not a Laveyan satanist and i know that the true path to be a "god" is long and hard and that arrogance only serves as a false veil to hide our errors from ourselves keeping them from being corrected.I completely agree with you on what you said about humility.Im personally a follower of the Joy of Satan website and at the beginning i had many doubts of course.Many stuff they claim are too fantastic to just gobble up and accept so i decided to give it a try by magic.

I have tried their meditations and contacted a few demons and they were very friendly.I could even say i made some relationships or bonds with some of them.The reason im defending JoS is because i experienced it to be true. However i dont expect people to believe me or want to force them to try it out, i just hate when people attack the site and call us idiots for being much different than other religions.I "converted" a close friend of mine from christianity to theistic satanism and the first night he had a dream with his guardian demon speaking to him. He had the same degree of success with magic as i did (We even read one of our friend's mine for fun and divined what he eat earlier that day and we succeeded)

So one way or another im a JoS believer however a humble silent believer who mostly discusses it with friends.

I'm unfamiliar with the website, maybe I'll give it a look. I personally enjoy removing as much duality from metaphysics as possible, and often challenge people's preconception regarding demonic/evil energy (especially the way they regard the two as synonymous). Granted, I find that magical philosophy makes much more sense than either transcendental or material philosophy, ergo I think things often take on the attributes we give them. So if you don't give demons evil attributes they won't have them. If you hide away from the shadow and fear it, you give it power against you. If you experience the shadow, you absorb the power into yourself.

But I have both a guardian angel and a guardian demon. I know their names and I've been channeling from them a lot. I tend to take everything with a grain of salt, and Buddha's teachings more or less remains my main foundation in spirituality. From Buddhism, I remain grounded. It was, after all, Buddha who (in record) originally said to only believe what proves true through personal experience. But it was only my studies of Sumarian and Egyptian Mystery Schools (and other secret knowledge) that allowed me to see how accurately Buddha understood the universe. When studying the secret teachings, I often felt like I was reading about blind mice perceiving different parts of the elephant and calling it different things. Then I read Buddha's teachings and it felt like he just saw the whole elephant.