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      You might be a athiest if ...

      This is not an attack on Athiests, but I want to see how much of this applies to them in this forum
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      This is not an attack on Athiests, but I want to see how much of this applies to them in this forum[/b]
      if you got a IQ over 80.

      only joking i mean if your not ignorant and like socrates
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      The nuber 23 is funny. IT's MANS fault.. Who made a man greedy? The devil ofcourse!
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      You not only spell "God" with a lower case "g," but you also add an "E" to "B.C.," and replace the word "Christ" with an "x." Yet, when asked to name the planets you have no problem with spouting out the appropriate list of Roman Gods. Heck, you'll even spell them with capital letters! Not only that, you can even spell and pronounce the name of the 800-mile-diameter Trans-Neptunian Object 'Quaoar', and are delighted that it comes from the creation mythology of the Tongva people (aka the San Gabrielino Native Americans).[/b]
      LMAO

      Seriously though. I don't think any of the points I read applied to me, but that's mostly cause this is all about demanding this and accusing of that. That's not my way of discussing religion (or anything for that matter).

      However, if someone to whom those points apply may be a "fundamentalist atheist", then the creators of that page may just be fundamentalist christians...
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      I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing.
      Socrates [/b]
      Thats the way I see religion, I have no idea what is true and what is not, therefore I&#39;m not really an atheist or anyother religion for that matter, I&#39;m a philosopher.



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      Guess what. We have a way to categorze you too&#33;

      You&#39;re agnostic.
      Agnosticism is the belief that we either do not and/or can not know the truth on this subject.
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      You think that the primary aim of an omnibenevolent God is for people to have FUN.[/b]
      Well that&#39;s me categorised.

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      What kind of sites are you on keeper? That is one of the silliest un-professional sites I ever saw
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      Quote Originally Posted by Umbrella View Post
      Guess what. We have a way to categorze you too&#33;

      You&#39;re agnostic.
      Agnosticism is the belief that we either do not and/or can not know the truth on this subject.
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      Exactly
      You think that the primary aim of an omnibenevolent God is for people to have FUN.[/b]
      I thought that was are purpose.



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      I read some of it, and it is the stupidest bunch of garbage I have come across in a while. Several of the things in the list were to the effect of, "You argue against the existence of God by saying that blah blah blah." Many of those arguments being ridiculed were actually effective arguments. The one about God not being able to create a rock so heavy he can&#39;t pick it up is an excellent argument against infinite power. The maker of the list said that the point is illogical because you are putting infinite power against itself, but he does not explain how that disqualifies the argument. The thing about drippy ice cream was another good point against the notion of God&#39;s existence. It is totally true that an infinitely powerful, totally good God would not even have minor ice cream problems in his universe. The list made a lot of illogical points and listed a lot of the arguments Christians have never been able to successfully counter. Merely making fun of an argument is not the same as actually countering it.

      Keeper, how did you have time to read that list and make a post about it? If you have time to do things like that, please answer my questions in the science thread. It&#39;s December 3 now.
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      You know you are religious when: you bother to read all 300 of those >.<

      Then you write one yourself.

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      see that link in my sig?

      click it&#33;

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      Quote Originally Posted by CryoDragoon View Post
      see that link in my sig?

      click it&#33;
      [/b]


      well, guess I&#39;m not a Christian, eh?


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      "You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours."

      "Your cringe when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don&#39;t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees&#33;"

      "You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving.""

      "Despite the fact that prisons and mental institutions have a higher percentage of Christians than the general population, and college educated people have a higher percentage of atheism than the general population, you claim that Christianity will improve ones moral code and quality of life; you claim that Christians are better people. Then when presented with this contrary evidence, you claim that the devil is to blame for this "deception"."

      yes you are...

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      Quote Originally Posted by CryoDragoon View Post
      "You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours."
      [/b]
      ... but I dont

      "Your cringe when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don&#39;t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees&#33;"
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      trees?

      I get upset wenever I hear about babies dying

      "You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving.""
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      But I dont beleive in Hell. Its not even in the Bible

      "Despite the fact that prisons and mental institutions have a higher percentage of Christians than the general population, and college educated people have a higher percentage of atheism than the general population, you claim that Christianity will improve ones moral code and quality of life; you claim that Christians are better people. Then when presented with this contrary evidence, you claim that the devil is to blame for this "deception"."
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      If you dont follow the Bible, then you arn&#39;t Christian. Most of the so-called "christian" inmates were either a) not obaying the Bible, or were converted after they were incacerated

      yes you are...
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      according to your list ... no
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      Keeper you are sounding like people do when they are in denial. You twist and twist everything you say, ending up with nothing but the mere thought of you being right. If you keep going like that not a single christian will see you as one.

      Rather say: &#39;Fuck it, I believe the bible by every word&#39; then make up all those extreme self-discrediting nonsense.
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      I srsly didn&#39;t get how you think I twisted that around
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      Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
      I srsly didn&#39;t get how you think I twisted that around
      [/b]
      First you say:

      &#39;Evolution doesn&#39;t exist&#33; Evolution is a lie&#33; Look at all this &#39;proof&#39; that prooves evolution just can&#39;t happen&#39;

      Then you say:

      &#39;Well... to go from an ark-sises amount of animals to millions of species, I guess evolution did happen.. yeahh..&#39;


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      I&#39;m not supporting evolution, I am saying that it is flawed (dont get so angry&#33

      anyhow, just about no-one has said weather this diffins them or not
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      Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
      But I dont beleive in Hell. Its not even in the Bible[/b]


      Have you even READ the bible? I suggest you do so. Hell is referred to in numerous places. Depending on the translation you use, not directly as "Hell", but it&#39;s referred to nontheless. Also, go buy yourself a decent NRSV edition bible, with the books both in the catholic canon that the stupid protestants cut out because they didn&#39;t like, and the books in the Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, and other versions that the stupid catholics cut out because they didn&#39;t like.

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      I cut out all the parts of my bible that I didn&#39;t like. All I had left was a small scrap that says "THE END" because I thought that was rather hilarious that it ends with the words "THE END".

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      lol.
      Anyway, do any of you have the Jefferson Bible/The Philosophy of Jesus of Nazareth? That&#39;d make a much better holy book, I&#39;d think.

      To Keeper--get a life. You STILL haven&#39;t pointed out any flaws in evolution. After, what...two, three months?
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      I have one, thank you very much.

      I dont understand why you get so agressive over my views

      and you still havn&#39;t told me if this aplies to you

      Oh, and Blue, I beleive in Sheol, a dark, peacfull sleep, but not Hell, a burning-for-all-time-before-you-even-get-judged

      Bible talks of Sheol, not Hell
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      Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
      Oh, and Blue, I beleive in Sheol, a dark, peacfull sleep, but not Hell, a burning-for-all-time-before-you-even-get-judged

      Bible talks of Sheol, not Hell[/b]
      The bible makes numerous references not only to Sheol, but to the "pit" and other similar references.

      And your definition of Sheol is wrong. Go read the Book of Enoch.

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