Thread: simple

yeah just about.

yea i guess your right ethen....i guess your right

if you can not tell i am being sarcastic....i guess you cant see that either though

You have opened my eyes, good sir.

I the topic of existence and opposites I would like to add:

Non-existence only 'exists' ('is' or 'can be' would be less confusing terms) in a subjective spectrum. In a world of symbols, non-existence is at least way more easy to identify. Like in the human subjective world, an absent drummer really wouldn't exist within the band at that time. (If he was kicked out, or never was part of the band, his non-existence would be of an even broad kind).

The problem is, that within the material world, everything the drummer was, still is. All his atoms still exist, no matter or he is in the band, or drunk in the gutter.

Basically I am talking about "hyperreality", I saw some cool youtube video on it recently.

Or like this example: If I have a wooden Chair, I can say it exist. Then, if I burn it, and super-heat the ashes, or like let plants grow out of the ashes, would the chair still exist? In the material world, (the world looked at objectively), the chair's atoms still exist, yes. But on the level we live on, the level we view the world, a level of though that even Calls a bunch of atoms chairs, that specific chair would indeed be non-existent.

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So in this abstract hyperreal way of thinking, like how we determine certain things as 'my chair' or 'my car', non-existence certainly does exist. However, I wonder or it can be really said about the more material world or something does or does not exist. Arn't 'existence' and 'non-existence' not just things on a subjective level, but things on a subjective level we put on abstract things. Like the entity of 'chair'...

So basically... I still think non-existence doesn't exist outside of human (or any concious) thought.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

The name that can be named is not the eternal name.

- Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

Right on. But I think he wrote "The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao," the word Tao meaning the law of nature. Thank you for bringing up this quote

Originally Posted by cygnus

But I think he wrote "The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao,"

Yeah, that's the next line. The words vary slightly from one translation to another. It is such a cool book.

Originally Posted by Bosco

hhaha

does it sounds nice? hell yea

do i have a reason to believe it

....hell yea

do i need a compelling reason i have to explain to you,

no

this is a discussion forum

and it looks like i am the only person who has come to the same conculsion

its a feeling,

not something i can just say to you and you will understand

just honestly think about it and tell me that there really is not an opposite to every sense you have

tell me that i am only talking about the 5 senses

tell me that not everything in LIFE has an opposite

and that is balance

now if you get deep enough you will realize that in balance itself there is unbalance

and that it self proves balance even more

One last thing, do tell me who is going to be the next jackass who completely misinterperates everything i just wrote and is going to sy something completely ignorant to the fact..........thats what im wondering



admins if you would like o move this to philosopy**** please do

It is the nature of humans to form patterns. Because you believe everything has an opposite does not make it true. In fact, many things you believe to be opposing could very well be complimentary in someone else's view of the world. Your idea of balance is based on your perceptions, which are an unreliable source for information about the underlying nature of the universe.