A Divine Revelation Of Hell....

[spiritofthewolf]

Ladies and Gentlemen I am a true believer in God and the LORD Jesus Christ.. But after reading a book yesterday in only a few hours my faith in Jesus grew 10 times then what it was... I dont know if any of you have heard of the book called "A Divine Revelation Of Hell" by Mary K Baxtor? It is about Mary Baxtor herself and about her first hand experience she had...In her true book Jesus came to her and gave her visions through dreams/meditation/visions themselves of Hell... Jesus took her out of her body and brought her to hell to show her what Hell was like and told her "I have a use for every person on this planet..I want to show you this, and for you to write a book telling everyone about Hell" If you have yet to read this book or have yet to hear about it, I strongly advise you of the Christian or Non Believer to pick it up and read it.. You can find it at amazon.com for real cheap as a used book or I picked up my copy at BordersBook for 12.99 plus tax... I know there is alot of people that doubt that exsistence of Jesus Christ because they do not believe what he did is possible..You can take the BIBLE literally or you can take it in whatever way you want, but in the end It is about how much FAITH you have in Jesus Christ.. and I am telling all non believers to repent from your sins and ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness and for him to come into your life... In the book Stated above Jesus states "In Hell you still have all your senses..You can smell, touch, taste,feel, and hear all" Imagine being torturned for an eternity and wanting so badly even the smallest drink of water, but not being able to have a sip... In a part of the book Mary Baxtor wrote that at one point a Satan Worshipper stood infront of Satan and asked "Where is my Kingdom?" Because Satan Worshippers believe if they Worship Satan they will get a Kingdom of some short.... Satan laughed and said "You actually think I am going to give you apart of my kingdom?" He put the Satan worshipper in what is similar to a jail sell but only thing in it was a rocking chair and said "Here is your kingdom" In closing i'll quote what Jesus stated in the Book stated above "The worst Torture in Hell isnt for The unbelievers, but for the ones who knew of me, but turned their backs away...." I PRAY FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE YET TO FIND CHRIST AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO NEED HIM!!" Spiritofthewolf

[Universal Mind]

I read it, and it would be the scariest thing I have ever read if the author didn't act like such a neurotically nutty holy roller the whole way through it, stopping the narration all the time to say, "Praise the Lord!" The book says Hell is in the shape of a human body and that its divisions are different body parts. Huh? It also says that Hell is literally inside Earth. The scene that sticks out the most is when a lady, who is nothing but a skeleton on fire, begs Jesus to let her out of Hell and Jesus tells her he won't do it because she had her chance to avoid eternal torture. How loving is that? I can't imagine not saving somebody from eternal torment if I can. Jesus said the same thing to a man who was on fire. One of Jesus' comments to the guy was, "I even died on a cross for you." I have asked many times here what that has to do with anything if Jesus still exists and is in the form he has always been in except for 33 years. Can you imagine telling somebody drowning you won't save him because he had his chance to stay away from the water? That is so cold blooded. What a sinister way Jesus created the universe if Hell is one of its realities.

[ThePhobiaViewed]

Have any of you read "23 Minutes in Hell" by Bill Wiese? I think he mentioned that other woman in his book and I found it pretty interesting. It seems alot better than that other book, as far as it not having religious statements thrown everywhere. One thing I found weird was that later after his one trip happened, he asked God to just give him a tiny piece of it again to make sure that it really happened and he goes there for a few seconds. Even if you don't believe in it, it is still a great read and the material the book is made of is amazing. Its like a mix between a hard and a soft cover. Basically a hard thin sheet and it feels good and doesnt get all messed up.

[spiritofthewolf]

Jesus was saddened by all the souls that he saw in Hell...To me you act like you are downgrading Jesus because he denied to let out souls that begged them for mercy and forgiveness...You must understand that Jesus had already given them that chance (when they were alive...like you are now)... Jesus didnt create Hell.. Satan was an Angel of God before Hell even exsisted.. Satan got jealous of Gods POWER and wanted some for himself... Then God casted out Satan which is referred to as "A Fallen Angel"..Satan became the "Ruler" of Hell... Jesus doesnt want anybody to go to hell..If you really did read the book like you said you did, you would have read that part too.. Jesus doesnt want anybody to go to hell, That is why he has given us the chance to repent from our sins and follow him now, before its too late...because after we die, like Jesus says "Judgement Has Been Set" spiritofthewolf

[joey11223]

....SIGH joey can't pretend to believe in Jesus Christ if it goes against his inner core. I just cannot believe in a God AT ALL. I'm not going to pretend to just to avoid going to Hell, because i wouldn't really be believing, i'd be lying to save my own skin, this God would see through it anyway.

[ExoByte]

Whos to say that these books are true? Whether God exists or not. These could just simply, and likely are, just fictional books that the author tried to pass off as truth. Who says these people really had these visions and experiences, and that they aren't just entirely made up? Anyway, with what Universal Mind says, the phrase "I even died on the cross for you" shows Jesus as arrogant and self absorbed. Which, whether God exists or not, he was not. Jesus Christ of Nazareth, was a real person. Son of God or not, I don't know. I don't believe in God. But, thats not the point. The point is, whether he was the son of God or not, he was a loving and caring individual, who would never say a statement like that. As well, Jesus promised forgiveness to those who asked for it. If someone were to beg for forgiveness, Jesus would grant it. Jesus denied the forgiveness of these people. Simply put, if hell is real or not, the book is a bunch of lies that the author just made up, just like nearly every other religious 'revelation' that someone has been 'instructed' to write about.

[spiritofthewolf]

^^To the person above^^ Jesus Forgives people who are willing to repent from their sins and walk with Him.. The people in Hell who asked Jesus for forgiveness after they had died were already too late..If you lived a life all for your own, died, Then knew after being tortured for so long that toture was going to be for all eternity, wouldnt you beg for forgiveness too??? Jesus has already give you the chance to ask for forgiveness, the time is now.. Like i stated previously...After you die Judgement is set.. Jesus said it himself.... And for the record..In the book, those who had begged Jesus for forgiveness--after Jesus told them "I am sorry, but Judgement has been set"---Started cussing and calling Jesus names because they didnt get what they want... Jesus has a the door open for all who is willing to come through...Its just that most of society chooses to slam or close that door shut....and on the other side of that closed door...Jesus the son of God is still waiting...No matter how many times people close the door in his face.... A friend of mine told me this... "Gods Hands are pretty much behind his back" Meaning God and Jesus has given us the choice... Live for this Life..Or the one after...In the End it is our choice, and In the End we face the outcome of our Decision....Good Or Bad.....We Reep What We Sow....

[Lucid_boy]

Besides, even if Jesus was willing to help the souls of the damned or tried to help there would be nothing he could do. God set up the rules, once the souls go to hell those are the devils possesions and god can't just take them away, I guess he could but its not his plan, he wants to wait untill the end of days to start the war so that more people hear his message and I think that by freeing a soul from hell god would start the war early, there by destroying the atheists chances at repentance and forgiveness.

[ExoByte]

Did you just say that God wants to start a war?

[Lucid_boy]

Yes. The war between himself and the devil. It will be a time when demons walk the earth and great and horrible plauges will happen and all the earth will share one currency. Eventualy though god will kick the devils butt and he will be destroyed and he will establish his earthly kingdom.

[ExoByte]

God, the all powerful, all wonderful God as religion so claims, does not want a war. God is too good for that. If God wants a war, there is a problem with God, and thus a problem with whoever the hell is running our world. Besides, thats all wrong. There already was a war in Heaven, when Satan fell. God gave Satan hell too avoid war. God, as good as he is, would never want a war. Thats if he even exists.

[spiritofthewolf]

A man once stated in a vision he has of Heaven... God Told him this "Let Mankind Know I will be Returning to shake the earth..For Mankind Has forgotten about me, Therefore I will Return To Shake The Earth One Last time" amen to that God Bless

[Universal Mind]

I don't believe in God, but I will argue from the standpoint that he does exist and that he exists in the form of Jesus. Is Jesus infinitely powerful, or is he not? If he is infinitely powerful, then he can get people out of Hell. There is no way around that. He could also have created existence in such a way that Hell would never exist, and he could have made it where that is not a problem. I don't buy the idea that a place of eternal torture is necessary when there is an infinitely powerful God. It doesn't make any sense. Telling a drowning person, "I don't want you to drown, but you had your chance to stay away from the water, so you don't get my help even though I can give it to you," is very evil. The Jesus described in the Bible was nothing like that. He was a good, peaceful man, and his best friend was a prostitute. Mankind Has forgotten about me If God is infinitely intelligent, he knows the fallacious nature of generalizations. Therefore I will Return To Shake The Earth One Last time" amen to that God Bless Amen to shaking the Earth? So you feel a religious thrill over natural disasters causing mass death? Please quote Jesus on where he promoted that way of thinking.

[Lucid_boy]

Jesus is not infinitly powerful. He gets his power from god. My understanding is that while on earth jesus could do what god could do but he was loyal to his father. If jesus started to be evil I think god would have shut him down in about a second flat. A soul in hell is not like a drownding person. These people knew they would go to hell if they didn't repent. If a person knew he was going to drowned if he went in the water would they do it? once they do it they have made there choice. Jesus did try to save people from hell. when he was on earth he tried to save everybody.

[Lucid_boy]

Amen to shaking the Earth? So you feel a religious thrill over natural disasters causing mass death? Please quote Jesus on where he promoted that way of thinking. We don't say amen because people will die. We say amen because god is going to come to earth and establish his kingdom . People will die, true. But god will establish his kingdom on earth.

[Universal Mind]

We don't say amen because people will die. We say amen because god is going to come to earth and establish his kingdom . People will die, true. But god will establish his kingdom on earth. Spirit of the Wolf didn't say anything about building a kingdom. He said Amen to the shaking of the Earth. Jesus is not infinitly powerful. He gets his power from god. My understanding is that while on earth jesus could do what god could do but he was loyal to his father. If jesus started to be evil I think god would have shut him down in about a second flat. A soul in hell is not like a drownding person. These people knew they would go to hell if they didn't repent. If a person knew he was going to drowned if he went in the water would they do it? once they do it they have made there choice. Jesus did try to save people from hell. when he was on earth he tried to save everybody. People who do not believe they are going to Hell are not choosing it. And I thought Jesus was supposed to be God. If not, then God is being apathetic about people burning forever. I don't relate to that level of apathy.

[thegnome54]

I am telling all non believers to repent from your sins and ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness and for him to come into your life... Imagine being torturned for an eternity and wanting so badly even the smallest drink of water, but not being able to have a sip... You should be damn well ashamed of yourself, threatening people and trying to blackmail them into believing your religion. Why should we worry about your Hell when you're not at all concerned about Narak, Jannaham, Xibalba, or Mictlan? You can't possibly know that you're correct, and trying to scare people into agreeing with your ideas is just shameful.

[Lucid_boy]

I didn't post that...hackers or somthing. I didn't post the thing about Amen.

[Universal Mind]

And how could you worship something that knowingly set up existence in such a way that most humans will be severely tortured for eternity? Something that does that is not worthy of worship.

[Universal Mind]

I didn't post that...hackers or somthing. I didn't post the thing about Amen. Is this a joke?

[spiritofthewolf]

Universal Mind:Amen to shaking the Earth? So you feel a religious thrill over natural disasters causing mass death? Please quote Jesus on where he promoted that way of thinking. I never said anything about Death..Shaking The Earth could mean many things, and it wasnt Jesus who stated it, it was GOD...and I heard about it from one of my friends who read up on peoples Visions of Heaven/Hell and he came across this book..I will get the name for you when I talk to him again... You talk about you not understanding why God wouldnt grant someone mercy who is already in Hell begging for it? Of course they are begging for Mercy, they are going to be tortured for Eternity.. Its sort of like saying Your Sorry, When the only reason you are truly sorry is because you got caught..If you didnt have to face the consequences of your actions, You Would have never of said you were sorry.. Or in Gods Case, begging for forgiveness after you are already in Hell because you decided to chose a life of your own, instead of a life for God...Would you still beg for forgiveness if you werent in Hell??? Jesus gives you the chance for forgiveness, the time is now...He states in the bible, The consequences of living a life of sin is death and you shall be cast into the lake of fire....Repent now before its too late

[Lucid_boy]

Spirit of the Wolf didn't say anything about building a kingdom. He said Amen to the shaking of the Earth. People who do not believe they are going to Hell are not choosing it. And I thought Jesus was supposed to be God. If not, then God is being apathetic about people burning forever. I don't relate to that level of apathy. God created jesus to see the world through the eyes of man. God put his holy spirit into jesus so he could preform great works. It is very confusing, the three in one, in an impossible to explain way jesus is god but he isn't, he is only the son of god. You'd have to ask silverzero about that one. God isn't apathetic about people going to hell. He sends messengers to earth to try and change there minds and he gives them visions and priests to help them. When someone goes to hell he is the devils property. God is planing on destroying hell and satan through a war on earth between angles and demons, but untill that day, when your in hell the devil owns you. As for the satement that the people who don't believe in god aren't choosing to go to hell, well that is just not true. They know that they will go to hell if they don't convert according to our religon. They may not believe it but they know that it is the theory. I didn't mean to offend anyone if I did, I'm sorry.

[Universal Mind]

I never said anything about Death..Shaking The Earth could mean many things, and it wasnt Jesus who stated it, it was GOD...and I heard about it from one of my friends who read up on peoples Visions of Heaven/Hell and he came across this book..I will get the name for you when I talk to him again... You talk about you not understanding why God wouldnt grant someone mercy who is already in Hell begging for it? Of course they are begging for Mercy, they are going to be tortured for Eternity.. Its sort of like saying Your Sorry, When the only reason you are truly sorry is because you got caught..If you didnt have to face the consequences of your actions, You Would have never of said you were sorry.. Or in Gods Case, begging for forgiveness after you are already in Hell because you decided to chose a life of your own, instead of a life for God...Would you still beg for forgiveness if you werent in Hell??? Jesus gives you the chance for forgiveness, the time is now...He states in the bible, The consequences of living a life of sin is death and you shall be cast into the lake of fire....Repent now before its too late It's horrifically cold blooded. Nobody deserves eternal torture, especially just for honestly thinking Christianity is not logical. Not thinking Christianity is logical is totally understandable, especially in the modern scientific age. Not believing something is not evil. Punishing somebody just for not believing something is evil. Punishing somebody by letting them be tortured forever when only you could let them out is infinitely evil. God created jesus to see the world through the eyes of man. God put his holy spirit into jesus so he could preform great works. It is very confusing, the three in one, in an impossible to explain way jesus is god but he isn't, he is only the son of god. You'd have to ask silverzero about that one. God isn't apathetic about people going to hell. He sends messengers to earth to try and change there minds and he gives them visions and priests to help them. When someone goes to hell he is the devils property. God is planing on destroying hell and satan through a war on earth between angles and demons, but untill that day, when your in hell the devil owns you. As for the satement that the people who don't believe in god aren't choosing to go to hell, well that is just not true. They know that they will go to hell if they don't convert according to our religon. They may not believe it but they know that it is the theory. I didn't mean to offend anyone if I did, I'm sorry. I do know about the claim. That does not mean it makes sense to me. Therefore, I would not be choosing Hell. I don't think anybody would. And there is a very big third world out there full of people who don't know jack about the claim.

[Lucid_boy]

No UM it's not a joke. I forgot that I had posted it. It slipped my mind as soon as I wrote it.

[ExoByte]

I don't use internet slang on forums much but... this calls for a LOL. No one hacked you to post something stupid XD