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      Banned From The Bible II

      "Banned From The Bible II" on the History Channel International

      Texts left out of the Old and New Testaments;
      stories of angles and demons, apocalyptic visions,
      and a tale by Saint Peter resembling The Lord of the Rings

      I remember my father reading a book about the material left out of the bible, who put it together and why they chose some writtings and not others.

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      Just further proof the bible is a human creation. It's nice to learn about what they left in and out of the bible, and for what reasons: it teaches us the real interests of the referred religion.

      Do you have the name of that book?
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      An hour and a half google video, i think it's the first one though.


      http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...arch&plindex=1


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      My psychic powers are telling me this thread will be filed under
      QUIETLY IGNORED.

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      Texts were left out of the Bible for all kinds of reasons, like being fakes (pseudopygryphal?) or other reasons (the Apochrypha, which are still in some Bibles...books like the Maccabbes, Bel and the Dragon).

      ...and back to quietly ignoring the thread.

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      thats pretty cool i never new stuff was left out.

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      Quote Originally Posted by vinn View Post
      thats pretty cool i never new stuff was left out.

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      Interesting story i heard. Apparently at one time Reincarnation was a part of christianity but then Constantine had it ommited and had the bible changed so that it stated you could only get salvation in this life.

      The reason being if you have an attitutde that you have lots of lifes ahead you can just have fun witht his life or not take it seriously but if you have the attitude that you can only get salvation in this life you will be easier to controll...
      Some are born to sweet deleight
      Some are born to endless night

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      Shhhh, now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mark75 View Post
      Shhhh, now.
      Sush yourself.
      Some are born to sweet deleight
      Some are born to endless night

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      Does that I didn't post for 22 days mean nothing to you? Fine, I'll play along.
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      Shhhh, now.
      Sush [sic]

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      I haven't read about this for a long time, but there's a funny story that was left out about Jesus getting mad at a tree and striking it dead for not having good fruit. I think he did that to a kid too.

      I think there's a few other stories they should have left out of the bible. The one about Sodom and Gomorrah, for example. Some angels come to Lot's house, and the towns-folk come to the door demanding that the angels be sent out so they can have sex with them. Lot says no, but says they can have his daughters instead. Luckily the angels struck the towns-folk blind, so there was no need for daughter-raping in place of angel-sodomizing. Then Lot and his family escape before Sodom and Gomorrah are destroyed, his wife getting turned into salt during that time for the offense of looking back. After that, Lot has sex with each of his daughters (cuz the nearest town was a mile away and they thought it was too far to walk to find non-family members to have sex with), impregnating them both.

      Moral of the story: it's worse to look over your shoulder than it is to offer your daughters to be gang-raped and then have sex with them and father your own grand-children.

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      I like the one about the bears and the bald guy.

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      Moonbeam:

      I don't understand, why you stupidly think that if a theme is represented in a book, then it has to be advocated by the morality of that book.
      If you read Sherlock Holmes, and a murder occurs, does that mean that the Author and the readers and the ethos of the book condones murder. No it doesn't!
      The bible contains people, and acknowledges that people are sinners, big deal.
      Last edited by psychology student; 01-27-2008 at 02:39 AM.

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      Way to prove your illiteracy once again.
      Quote Originally Posted by psychology student View Post
      The latter wasn't left out, its in the bible!
      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      I think there's a few other stories they should have left out of the bible.

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      My bad, its nearly 2 in the morning here. But my main point still stands.

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      Quote Originally Posted by psychology student View Post
      Moonbeam:

      I don't understand, why you stupidly think that if a theme is represented in a book, then it has to be advocated by the morality of that book.
      If you read Sherlock Holmes, and a murder occurs, does that mean that the Author and the readers and the ethos of the book condones murder. No it doesn't!
      The bible contains people, and acknowledges that people are sinners, big deal.
      Nobody is using Sherlock Holmes books as their moral authority.

      So...what was the real moral of that story about Lot? Or is it just supposed to be for entertainment?

      The bible has lots of instances of not just people being "sinners" (yea, I know, all that golden calf worshipping and homosexuality and stuff, pisses God off), but of God and his clone doing very strange things (I mean strange if you think that killing and hurting people are bad.) I know that you probably haven't found those yet. And I'm too lazy to tell you about it right now. But here's an easy one--God killed every person (and animal) on earth, except for one family, in a flood--how about that? Moral of story?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      Nobody is using Sherlock Holmes books as their moral authority.
      But you have to wonder if there wasn't some hidden psychological reason that he compared the Bible to another work of fiction.
      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      But here's an easy one--God killed every person (and animal) on earth, except for one family, in a flood--how about that? Moral of story?
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      The story of lot, is the story of lot, there doesn't need to be a general morality to appease people like you. Maybe you find his story entertaining, its not to me!






      That is called the stroy of Noah
      People had descended into sin
      Thats pre-christ sin.
      Pre-christ = no forgiveness.
      But Christians recognise that Jesus created forgiveness, thats a reason why he is so significant to Christians.
      Apparently, after his crucifixion, he went to hell, to preach to all those who had sinned and gone to hell before his time, and to offer them a second chance.

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      So god killed everyone, but spared one family to not forgive them anyway, when he could hav just cleaned the slate and started over? Y'know, being all omnipotent?

      I iterate again:

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      Or he is deliberately using less power, as he has gradually given us choice to do as we like, while showing us the optimum direction to head in.

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      Well then he's worse of a leader then Bush! At least bush TRIED to lie, and didn't hide from us!

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      To be honest, I like Bush, hes a good Christian guy who made a few mistakes.

      Hey, everyone's a sinner!

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      I just noticed something:

      As humanity's problems grow larger and more severe, god uses LESS power.

      Oh, noes. I'm in violation of the Donotquesationtheplan law, ain't I .

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      I just noticed something:

      As humanity's problems grow larger and more severe, god uses LESS power.

      Oh, noes. I'm in violation of the Donotquesationtheplan law, ain't I .
      Maybe he decided to increase efficency? Exponentially.

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