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      George Carlin - Religion is BS

      Seriously, he pretty much summed up religion in this clip



      He does some quite funny stand up stuff also, aside from his role as Rufus in Bill & Ted.

      Feel free to discuss some of the things he talks about.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucid Seeker View Post
      He does some quite funny stand up stuff also, aside from his role as Rufus in Bill & Ted.
      By the time Carlin did Bill & Ted, his best and funniest years had been behind him by a decade or two.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucid Seeker View Post
      Seriously, he pretty much summed up religion in this clip



      He does some quite funny stand up stuff also, aside from his role as Rufus in Bill & Ted.

      Feel free to discuss some of the things he talks about.
      Can't see the vid, could you post the URL?

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      Yeah, I can't see it either.

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      Surprisingly, if you look up 'George Carlin - Religion is BS', you'll find it!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Grod View Post
      Surprisingly, if you look up 'George Carlin - Religion is BS', you'll find it!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dreamworld View Post
      Can't see the vid, could you post the URL?
      When you quoted him to ask the question, the URL was right there in front of your nose.

      Yeah, I really like that one. I remember listening to it maybe 6 years ago. While most of it is right-on, I especially like the bit about prayer. I've never heard a proper religious argument that answers his thoughts on the divine plan and why pray if god's gonna do whatever the hell she wants anyway.

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      Im not really religious, i belive the bits that suit me and vice versa with the bits that dont..

      But suppodly god doesnt affect free will... a lot of the bad stuff that happens in the world is created from just that.

      ok diseases and such like is out of our hands, but thats all part of keeping numbers down, same as farmers breeding animals get to a point where they have to either stop breeding or dispose of some stock. as God selling humans isnt an option ( although how do we know he doesnt sell us to another planet) he created diseases. ways for people to die before living out their bodys natural life span.

      As far as poverty and starvation, Not everyone can be materially wealthy or noone would know how lucky they are. imagine if everyone had everything they needed? we would take what we have for granted, and acts of international kindness would not be necessary.

      Ok look at the tsunami that devestated mass areas, yes it was horrible and hundreds of good people died and it was truly a tragedy which should never have happened... but then look at how the whole world reached out to the victims with donations, and supplys... look how many people travelled thousands of miles to help them rebuild their towns and aid the injured and grieving.

      Without the bad stuff how could anyone really appreciate the good stuff?


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      I fixed the link.
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      Im not really religious, i belive the bits that suit me and vice versa with the bits that dont..

      But suppodly god doesnt affect free will... a lot of the bad stuff that happens in the world is created from just that.

      ok diseases and such like is out of our hands, but thats all part of keeping numbers down, same as farmers breeding animals get to a point where they have to either stop breeding or dispose of some stock. as God selling humans isnt an option ( although how do we know he doesnt sell us to another planet) he created diseases. ways for people to die before living out their bodys natural life span.

      As far as poverty and starvation, Not everyone can be materially wealthy or noone would know how lucky they are. imagine if everyone had everything they needed? we would take what we have for granted, and acts of international kindness would not be necessary.

      Ok look at the tsunami that devestated mass areas, yes it was horrible and hundreds of good people died and it was truly a tragedy which should never have happened... but then look at how the whole world reached out to the victims with donations, and supplys... look how many people travelled thousands of miles to help them rebuild their towns and aid the injured and grieving.

      Without the bad stuff how could anyone really appreciate the good stuff?
      You quite clearly are religious in some form or other; no rational person could ever spew up such a terrible pile of stupid, arrogant trash.

      I mean, to start off with, you completely shot down your own argument in the first couple of sentences. Maybe if there weren't terrible diseases or natural disasters in the world then I might see the credit in the whole, 'God gave us free will and with that comes our ability to do bad things which is where all bad things came from'. No, God created terrible, completely unnecessary things that affect completely innocent people, which have absolutely nothing to do with humans and blight us to this day. There is no escape from the fact that God is either malevolent, or he doesn't exist; a benevolent God is logically incompatible with observation.

      And bad things are for the greater good? Please, spare me. Diseases are necessary to keep populations down? Come on, try and think out of the box here. God, the ultimate, belevolent, and, crucially, OMNIPOTENT being, could not think of a better solution than killing people horribly? Give me a break. The guy dictates the whole of reality, why did he make it necessary to have finite populations in the first place? Why couldn't we all be living on an infinite plane with all the food and comfort we need instead of crowded little spheres? The mighty, omniscient God's best answer to the problem which he himself created was drowning and starvation and HIV, going out of his way to make population control a painful and traumatic process? Wow, down on your knees people, we're talking about a real hero here.

      And the whole 'we wouldn't know what happiness is' idea... ughhh. What, in the same way that people who have only eaten apple pie all their life only know what apple pie tastes like once they've eaten some shit? Of course not. I'm not happy due to constantly thinking 'wow, I'm so lucky I'm not one of those blind diseased starving kids in Africa' all the time, I'm happy because I have a nice life. And what about all the atrocities that people never even hear about? What are they for?

      Face up to facts. God is either a fool, a weakling, a bastard, or nothing, and it is the imperative duty of mankind to work together to eliminate the terrible conditions of the unfortunates.

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      I agree with Xei.

      Also, isn't it stupid to fight the bad things, when they are actually good? Shouldn't we bomb Africa or drop defective condoms?

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      how could anyone do something amazing for someone else if there was no suffering, no pain no devestation?
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      Quote Originally Posted by marlie View Post
      ok let me ask you this... how would life be if everyone had the same puporse,goals,finances,issues,etc etc etc?.
      Well let me ask YOU this: What would a cat do if it was also a horse? It would ride up tree.

      Also, what would my grandma be if she had wheels?

      A bus.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke View Post
      Well let me ask YOU this: What would a cat do if it was also a horse? It would ride up tree.

      Also, what would my grandma be if she had wheels?

      A bus.
      LOL... ok time for meds


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      Quote Originally Posted by marlie View Post
      LOL... ok time for meds
      Take a look at your signature.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke View Post
      Take a look at your signature.
      fair point wheres the prozac


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      Quote Originally Posted by marlie View Post
      fair point wheres the prozac
      Don't go off topic. Rebut my Nike argument.

      Lol, I said butt.

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      Ooooooooooooooooooohhh, a person says anything religious in the "Religion and Spirituality" section, and they are set upon. You people make me sick.

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      Well it is in no way our fault that they cannot support their baseless views of the universe, now is it?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      You quite clearly are religious in some form or other; no rational person could ever spew up such a terrible pile of stupid, arrogant trash.

      I mean, to start off with, you completely shot down your own argument in the first couple of sentences. Maybe if there weren't terrible diseases or natural disasters in the world then I might see the credit in the whole, 'God gave us free will and with that comes our ability to do bad things which is where all bad things came from'. No, God created terrible, completely unnecessary things that affect completely innocent people, which have absolutely nothing to do with humans and blight us to this day. There is no escape from the fact that God is either malevolent, or he doesn't exist; a benevolent God is logically incompatible with observation.

      And bad things are for the greater good? Please, spare me. Diseases are necessary to keep populations down? Come on, try and think out of the box here. God, the ultimate, belevolent, and, crucially, OMNIPOTENT being, could not think of a better solution than killing people horribly? Give me a break. The guy dictates the whole of reality, why did he make it necessary to have finite populations in the first place? Why couldn't we all be living on an infinite plane with all the food and comfort we need instead of crowded little spheres? The mighty, omniscient God's best answer to the problem which he himself created was drowning and starvation and HIV, going out of his way to make population control a painful and traumatic process? Wow, down on your knees people, we're talking about a real hero here.

      And the whole 'we wouldn't know what happiness is' idea... ughhh. What, in the same way that people who have only eaten apple pie all their life only know what apple pie tastes like once they've eaten some shit? Of course not. I'm not happy due to constantly thinking 'wow, I'm so lucky I'm not one of those blind diseased starving kids in Africa' all the time, I'm happy because I have a nice life. And what about all the atrocities that people never even hear about? What are they for?

      Face up to facts. God is either a fool, a weakling, a bastard, or nothing, and it is the imperative duty of mankind to work together to eliminate the terrible conditions of the unfortunates.
      Xei, thank you for saving me the trouble of rebutting that terrible, terrible argument.

      "Goodness" comes from "suffering" is one of the worst apologist arguments the religious have ever come up with. It just smacks of elitism. If YOU were one of those tsunami victims, do you think you would be thinking "I'm so glad I just lost my home and had my family swept out to sea, this gives strangers around the world a chance to feel generous towards me"? Or would you be thinking "what the hell did I do wrong, why do I deserve this?"

      The right answer is that both answers are wrong. We live in a planet with a geologically active core and a turbulent weather system that produces large storms and has seismic events every day. When people get caught in the middle of these events, they die. It's the natural order of things.

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      Quote Originally Posted by psychology student View Post
      Ooooooooooooooooooohhh, a person says anything religious in the "Religion and Spirituality" section, and they are set upon. You people make me sick.
      You seem to think that the denomination "religious" has any relevance at all. This is not so. Whether or not something is religious is of absolutely no significance.

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