ChaybaChayba needs to be banished from this board

[Sornaensis]

This is the most retarded discussion I have ever had. Claiming Spinoza's God is not God. How the hell would you know? You're an atheist. You don't even believe in God, but you do believe you're the only person who knows what God is. Ah, my dear readers. I have pity on thee now. Almost as much as I pity on this fool. Spinozism is the pantheistic philosophical system of Baruch Spinoza which defines "God" as a singular self-subsistent substance, and both matter and thought as attributes of such. Spinoza claimed that the third kind of knowledge, intuition, is the highest kind attainable. In Spinozism, the concept of a personal relationship with God comes from the position that one is a part of an infinite interdependent "organism". Spinoza taught that everything is but a wave in an endless ocean, and that what happens to one wave will affect other waves. Thus Spinozism teaches a form of karma and supports this as a basis for morality.[citation needed] Additionally, a core doctrine of Spinozism is that the universe is essentially deterministic. All that happens or will happen could not have unfolded in any other way. Spinozism is closely related to the Hindu doctrines of Samkhya and Yoga. Spinoza's doctrine was considered radical at the time he published and he was widely seen as the most infamous atheist-heretic of Europe. His philosophy was part of the philosophic debate in Europe during the Enlightenment, along with Cartesianism. Pantheism is the view that everything is of an all-encompassing immanent abstract God; or that the Universe, or nature, and God are equivalent. More detailed definitions tend to emphasize the idea that natural law, existence, and the Universe (the sum total of all that is, was, and shall be) is represented in the theological principle of an abstract 'god' rather than a personal, creative deity or deities of any kind. This is the key feature which distinguishes them from panentheists and pandeists. As such, although many religions may claim to hold pantheistic elements, they are more commonly panentheistic or pandeistic in nature.

[ChaybaChayba]

I define God the same way. I believe in God. I'm a theist. Not an atheist. Pantheism != Atheism. Case closed.

[Sornaensis]

I define God the same way. I believe in God. I'm a theist. Not an atheist. Pantheism != Atheism. Case closed. Whatever thou says. Oh btw this is perfect for a "Dumbass quote of the Week" ^_______________ ^

[ChaybaChayba]

Your quote is even more dumbass tho ^^

[Sornaensis]

Unfortunately you left out the rest of the quote, and clearly stumbled over the Quotes, and the second word being Underlined along with the "~". But I wouldn't expect you to stick to a full quote or unerstand anything above simple aspects of anything, really. So go ahead, make yourself look like a fool.

[ChaybaChayba]

Lol. Tbh I don't understand how you can be so convinced that God != God. That must been the most retarded argument anyone ever came up with. You are truly the king of B/S.

[Sornaensis]

Unfortunately you left out the rest of the quote, and clearly stumbled over the Quotes, and the second word being Underlined along with the "~". Stop acting like a child who just got reprimanded. Why don't you do yourself a favor and admit that you did not understand what the hell you are talking about, and that your mangling of my Post to suit childish copy-catting agenda?

[ChaybaChayba]

It doesn't matter if I leave the rest out. Whenever you claim God != God you are truly not very bright, no matter what context.

[Sornaensis]

"Razor" ~ != Razor A perfect example of this is Occam's Razor. It isn't a razor, that is just the title of it. And bullshitting yourself into thinking that I said "God != God" is, again, just immature. Equivalent to holding your hands over your ears and saying "But I win, but I win!" over and over because you just horribly lost an argument. This does two things: - It makes you look like an incopetent ass - It makes the reader of said posts facepalm and hold no respect for you

[Original Poster]

This has probably been said but I thinks it's ironic Korittke wants someone to be banned.

[ChaybaChayba]

... Occams Razor shaves off useless assumptions. That's why they call it Occam's Razor, and not Occam's Vibrator. Einstein. I think you just lost your throne. Step down and make place for the new King of R/S

[Universal Mind]

Well, theres no difference between atheism and theism anyway. Atheists are just in the closet theists. Everybody, this silly character is nothing but a troll. She is just trying to get you to argue with her asinine comments because nothing else makes her feel important. It is just another 13 year old thinking, "Huh huh, I said something stupid that makes people mad, and they are paying attention to ME!" Let's stop feeding the troll. Being ignored is her worst nightmare.

[ChaybaChayba]

Being ignored by Universal Mind my worst nightmare? More like a blessing from God.

[psychology student]

You idiot. You shit brick this fool. Dumbass fool. Stop acting like a child who just got reprimanded. incopetent ass silly character is nothing but a troll. ...... It is just another 13 year old ......... stupid that ........ Let's stop feeding the troll.[/SIZE] Please join in on the annual Ad Hominem festival: where no insult is too offensive, or too much. At this point we are but 7 insults away from a record, and just 2 away from the total of insults that require reparatory psychological counselling under the American Psychiatric Association reccomendations for insulted persons.

[Serkat]

Please join in on the annual Ad Hominem festival: where no insult is too offensive, or too much. At this point we are but 7 insults away from a record, and just 2 away from the total of insults that require reparatory psychological counselling under the American Psychiatric Association reccomendations for insulted persons. I think insulting people is hilarious.

[psychology student]

I think insulting people is hilarious. Darn! If only you were an insult, we would have a mutual belief.

[Serkat]

Darn! If only you were an insult, we would have a mutual belief. I don't get it. Anyway, I think my loose usage of English insults stems from my primary sources of hilarious English material (South Park and other sorts of offensive shit like Bullshit!). I don't actually insult people that much in my mother tongue but in English I just don't give a shit at all. I think I need to move my ass to the USA and have some regular civilized conversation with your Average Joe without using insults, then it'll probably get to the level of my mother tongue.

[Sornaensis]

Occams Razor shaves off useless assumptions. That's why they call it Occam's Razor, and not Occam's Vibrator. Einstein. I think you just lost your throne. Step down and make place for the new King of R/S And Spinoza's God is Spinoza's Definition for "God". Which can be anything. Hence the quote in your sig. If only you could stretch your limited capacity to understand it...

[♥Mark]

in before lock

[Sornaensis]

On before lick

[RooJ]

This just makes Atheists look stupid by the way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization Well, theres no difference between atheism and theism anyway. Atheists are just in the closet theists. “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts last before lock?

[ChaybaChayba]

I just think it's stupid to call yourself an atheist when you believe in God. Wether that God is Spinoza's God or a pantheistic God, it is still a God. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pantheism/ The fact that pantheism clearly is not atheistic, and is an explicit denial of atheism, is disputed by its critics. It's up to you wether you decide you call yourself an atheist or a theist. In the end, we believe the exact same thing.

[wasup]

in before lock

[Sornaensis]

Yes of course. Because isn't it just obvious that we do? I mean we have the same opinions on proof, the same on the beginning of the universe, the same on logic... Wait, whut?

[Serkat]

Who the fuck said he's a pantheist anyway? Pantheism is to theism what libertarianism is to anarchism. It's basically the same thing but one of them lets you wear suit and tie.