Faith healing is bullshit. And here's why:

[Good as Gold]

God has never, ever, ever, in the history of mankind, ever healed an amputee. Even if you soldiered on past the silly facts that, hell, if ten thousand people pray for the same thing, odds are at least one of them will get it based on coincidence, even if your faith in the lord remains untampered after studies concluded it was bullshit... Tell God to heal some guy without a leg. I mean, seriously now, if you're that in touch with the Lord, do some good with it. There's plenty of veterans who could use it. Note: No, praying for donations for a new leg does not constitute a 'heal'. It's the ignorant shoveling up cash because they're afraid of good ol' Jesus, or hell, maybe because they really care about other people. Give them some credit, sheesh.

[Catbus]

I asked a Christian about that one time and they said, and I quote "God would not heal an amputee because that would prove that he exists, thus making it require less faith to believe."

[nitsuJ]

You know I must live in the bad part of the Bible Belt because I've never met anyone that believe in Faith Healing garbage.

[Rakjavik]

You know I must live in the bad part of the Bible Belt because I've never met anyone that believe in Faith Healing garbage. Are you referring to faith healing as in the belief of not bringing someone to a hospital and instead praying? Or the the belief that when a man of god kicks you in the gonads it heals your stomach ulcer? Or just the belief that prayer can cause divine intervention? Of course all 3 are bullshit, but most religious people believe in the latter. Personally I think it's because it is convenient and next to impossible to disprove.

[nitsuJ]

Are you referring to faith healing as in the belief of not bringing someone to a hospital and instead praying? Or the the belief that when a man of god kicks you in the gonads it heals your stomach ulcer? Or just the belief that prayer can cause divine intervention? Of course all 3 are bullshit, but most religious people believe in the latter. Personally I think it's because it is convenient and next to impossible to disprove. The part about not bringing someone to a hospital to because God will fix it. Also, the part when a "man of God" touches someone they heal. I know of no one that believes in the top two. And majority of prayer causing divine intervention. Most people I know don't believe in prayer either, yet some do pray for sick people, or whatever. I don't believe in any of them myself. ._. I must be a bad religious kid.

[Jeff777]

God has never, ever, ever, in the history of mankind, ever healed an amputee. Even if you soldiered on past the silly facts that, hell, if ten thousand people pray for the same thing, odds are at least one of them will get it based on coincidence, even if your faith in the lord remains untampered after studies concluded it was bullshit... Tell God to heal some guy without a leg. I mean, seriously now, if you're that in touch with the Lord, do some good with it. There's plenty of veterans who could use it. Note: No, praying for donations for a new leg does not constitute a 'heal'. It's the ignorant shoveling up cash because they're afraid of good ol' Jesus, or hell, maybe because they really care about other people. Give them some credit, sheesh. Faith doesn't have to be associated to a "God figure". Your ignorance makes it so.

[drewmandan]

This is a specific example of a more general class of arguments against belief. The question is, why has God never worked a miracle that was physically impossible, impractical (such as creating new legs, making things levitate or disappear, etc). All the reported miracles are things that could easily just happen by chance. All we get is a stain on a window that sorta kinda looks like a shroud? Yeah that's some miracle. Man, if my god was so weak that all he could make is stains, I would consider switching gods.

[Serkat]

Yeah and also switch the window for a clean one.

[ClassyElf]

Faith doesn't have to be associated to a "God figure". Your ignorance makes it so. He's talking specifically about God faith healing. How you didn't understand that I have no idea.

[Serkat]

No, Faith Hill healed me.

[Jeff777]

He's talking specifically about God faith healing. How you didn't understand that I have no idea. Then the title is misleading.

[ClassyElf]

Then the title is misleading. No it's not. The content specifies what type of faith healing he is talking about. If a title were overly descriptive then it wouldn't be fitting it's purpose. And personally I think that faith healing of any kind is bullshit.

[Jeff777]

No it's not. The content specifies what type of faith healing he is talking about. If a title were overly descriptive then it wouldn't be fitting it's purpose. And personally I think that faith healing of any kind is bullshit. Coming from a purely psychological standpoint, it has been proven that there is a definitive mind-body connection. I am a student of psychology, so this resides well within my areas of interests. Knowing that there is a physiological mind-body connection, then it's not "spooky" or "supernatural" for one to understand and accept that the mind can heal the body. It does so subconsciously when we cut ourselves...it can be done consciously as well. There are a plethora of positions you can shift your body into to alter your mental and emotional states that speed up the healing process. Faith, by my definition, is a strong variant of belief. That being said...believing you can be healed physically or emotionally by the use of faith (which is a strong variant of belief that originates within the mind) I don't see how it's so "miraculous" to understand that faith healing, in essence...does work. Remember, the content above does not address any religion nor does it imply that this "faith healing" works with the aid of any one's respective Gods/Goddesses. Do I believe an amputee can regrow a limb? No...that'd be silly...taking into account our current stage of evolution that is. I myself have used a few "tricks" on my body to heal a pencil eraser sized bone growth on my skull. To make a long story short (I don't want to cover the entire process here) I gave it exactly 7 days to shrink and be gone entirely. In exactly 7 days it was gone entirely. Once again this isn't fluff or magic or anything. You'll gain a greater understanding of your body and your mind once you understand what language the mind speaks and how NLP'ers, Hypnotists, Mentalists etc... manipulate their (along with other people's) minds everyday to cure phobias, break habits, and very rarely...life-threatening illnesses.

[juroara]

God has healed everyone who has ever been healed, because God is the consciousness that is in every doctor in every corner of the world faith is a difficult subject to talk about. to have faith is to absolutely believe and know, and seeing it done as now. that is, faith is the same as the LOA, and LOA people would argue faith heals. most faith today is not real faith, it is hope. I hope this, I have hope this or that. but in their faith-hope, they doubt. and only wish.

[ClassyElf]

Coming from a purely psychological standpoint, it has been proven that there is a definitive mind-body connection. I am a student of psychology, so this resides well within my areas of interests. Knowing that there is a physiological mind-body connection, then it's not "spooky" or "supernatural" for one to understand and accept that the mind can heal the body. It does so subconsciously when we cut ourselves...it can be done consciously as well. There are a plethora of positions you can shift your body into to alter your mental and emotional states that contribute to a healing process. Faith, by my definition, is a strong variant of belief. That being said...believing you can be healed physically or emotionally by the use of faith (which is a strong variant of belief that originates within the mind) I don't see how it's so "miraculous" to understand that faith healing, in essence...does work. Remember, the content above does not address any religion nor does it imply that this "faith healing" works with the aid of any one's respective Gods/Goddesses. Do I believe an amputee can regrow a limb? No...that'd be silly...taking into account our current stage of evolution that is. I myself have used a few "tricks" on my body to heal a pencil eraser sized bone growth on my skull. To make a long story short (I don't want to cover the entire process here) I gave it exactly 7 days to shrink and be gone entirely. In exactly 7 days it was gone entirely. Once again this isn't fluff or magic or anything. You'll gain a greater understanding of your body and your mind once you understand what language the mind speaks and how NLP'ers, Hypnotists, Mentalists etc... manipulate their (along with other people's) minds everyday to cure phobias, break habits, and very rarely...life-threatening illnesses. Well of course, placebo effect has been well documented. But as far as external faith based healing goes, it has no place in reality.

[Jeff777]

The content of my above post had nothing to do with the placebo effect.

[ClassyElf]

The content of my above post had nothing to do with the placebo effect. Feeling reassured that faith will heal you and feeling reassured that medicine will heal you doesn't have that much of a difference.

[Jeff777]

There is nothing "Placebo" about the mind body connection. However, if you're referring to having faith that a god will heal you and you are healed, then perhaps. But just the same, my post was meant to explain that those who are healed by their "god" are probably only healed by the fact that the mind-body connection is being used in their favor (albeit unbeknownst to them).

[Sornaensis]

Faith doesn't have to be associated to a "God figure". Your ignorance makes it so. Er, well duh. But this is in Religion and Spirituality. Context clues.

[♥Mark]

Knowing that there is a physiological mind-body connection, then it's not "spooky" or "supernatural" for one to understand and accept that the mind can heal the body. No one here is attempting to refute psychology. This is about summoning supernatural magic from a god to heal people. Try to stay on topic.

[Jeff777]

No one here is attempting to refute psychology. This is about summoning supernatural magic from a god to heal people. Try to stay on topic. In that case

[juroara]

No one here is attempting to refute psychology. This is about summoning supernatural magic from a god to heal people. Try to stay on topic. oh come on that's putting the definition of God in a box, and holding believers to it people who believe in God believe God works through nature and through others. no magic or anything supernatural is needed. actually to many believers there is NO supernatural. everything rather, is natural.

[Neruo]

oh come on that's putting the definition of God in a box, and holding believers to it people who believe in God believe God works through nature and through others. no magic or anything supernatural is needed. actually to many believers there is NO supernatural. everything rather, is natural. No, actually. To a great deal of religious people god actually does do supernatural bullshit. Stop pretending like you know the average Christian so well that you can make statements about their beliefs even though those statements are completely opposed to what the bible says, what all church leaders say and what dickwads on Oprah say when their retard kid got 'cured by sweet jesus'. So stfu. Kthx.

[nitsuJ]

oh come on that's putting the definition of God in a box, and holding believers to it people who believe in God believe God works through nature and through others. no magic or anything supernatural is needed. actually to many believers there is NO supernatural. everything rather, is natural. And just how are you not putting the definition of God in a box? You don't know what everyone believes. I believe in God and I don't agree with anything you've posted. I don't think God does anything, I don't believe he interacts with Earth or people or our lives. I don't think he "works through nature." "that's putting the definition of God in a box, and holding believers to it"

[Dreamworld]

I asked a Christian about that one time and they said, and I quote "God would not heal an amputee because that would prove that he exists, thus making it require less faith to believe." Ha, a logical loophole, gotta love em.