I making this thread because I've noticed there are generally 2 types of responses or in reality one single argument taking place in R/S recreated between different people in different threads with different themes, etc. This argument is on the nature of truth, if truth exists and if it is ever possible to be right. There is a divide in DV when it comes to which side of the spectrum you are on, the side of those who are right, or those who are even more right. I want to see which side of this division has more people, I don't mean to fit people into categories, this is just a means to see how the two sides balance out. I also included the third minority of DV even though they aren't really apart of the argument.
The terms in the poll options are not politically correct nor accurate, I understand, so here's an explanation of what I mean so everyone knows where they fit. These are not dictionary definitions, these are definitions I accumulated by observing people that would label themselves this or are labeled by others in this way. My descriptions may also be inaccurate from individual to individual, but as this is more about the nature of truth, use the descriptions more as a tool to help you figure out where you stand on this argument (the nature of truth) rather than some misguided attempt to fit your beliefs in with similar minded people.
Atheist
Alternate Labels: Agnostic (certain individuals), LeVayist, Scientist, Skeptic, Pragmatist, Existentialist
Only evidence produced in controlled experiments or case studies accredited by scholarly publishers and such have any value. Everything can be explained by natural laws. Essentially, the Occam's Razor attitude, if life can exist without a bunch of esoteric concepts, then those esoteric concepts probably do not exist. While the mind interprets and reforms everything we see, reality still exists as an objective concept that predates human experience. Essentially, while an atheist's beliefs are subject to change with new evidence and information, they'll only be chaged after sufficient testing and verification. Most of what an atheist believes is based on the conclusions of the Scientific Community.
New-Age
Alternate Labels: Eastern Spiritualist, Buddhist, Pagan, Lightworker, Free-associater, Non-dualist, Don't label me you cunt
The experiencer creates his experience; the whole universe is alive; all living and non living entities are connected under one consciousness. A new age spiritualist looks at evidence from many, many sources. Criticism and verification vary between individuals, some believe in nothing until there are at least 5 unrelated witnesses, etc... but most see the universe synchronistically, like constant communication going on between the experiencer and their experiences, and therefore don't feel they need to verify anything nor believe anything, just let the information flow. They also see the universe in a perpetual state of change where everything exists as a community project and natural laws only exist as long as the collective consciousness continues to legitimize them. This is where the line between true and false becomes fluid, where people don't HAVE to be right.
Ideologue
Alternate Labels: Christian, Jew, Muslim, Catholic, Mormon, Jahova's Witness, Scientologist, Evangelical
If you call yourself a Christian, Catholic or anything and don't consider yourself a black sheep of one of these religions, you probably fit in this category. An ideologue is somebody that believes what they were taught rather than feeding it into their logic and seeing if it still has value like an atheist or seeing the vastness of possibilities like a new-agist. I don't mean to insult this group, an ideologue can be intelligent, it's just people's individual life styles. If one never had a reason to doubt what they were taught, then why not? While most of the world fits into this category, I suspect this will make up the smallest portion of DV
Also take note people will see what you voted for.
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