Thread: God - Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient

Originally Posted by Invader

God's omnipotence would be analogous to the omnipotence of a processor that
governs the workings of a virtual world. The processor is 'aware' of all that
happens in the program, for it must be in order for those things of the program
to occur.

Comments, questions, concerns?

Woohoo! Good to see some positive understanding! Yeah that's a pretty good analogy, but I'd say that it is analogous to the hardware processor. I also guess what you've said would closer fit Omniscience, as it is All-Knowing. It is Omnipresent in the sense that it's beyond the program parameters/limitations yet watching over them as the hardware, and Omnipotent in the sense that it is the Absolute (the hardware cannot be programed to die, nor programed to live; I.e. beyond programs/software, yet within them).

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

You made the point that he is LIMITED from being able to destory himself. Did you not?

Where? On the contrary, you said God is limited from being unlimited. I don't see the point. Seriously, is there such thing as "infinity" in your world? What about "Absolute?"

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

He is unable to do anything at all? WTF????? That is the opposite of being omnipotent.

It is not actually about whether He "can" or "cannot", but that it's just a matter of paradigm. Reconsidering the three terms, God influences All Creation as a consequence of God, not a consequence of actions. Yet, actions are not excluded. They are just one and the same. Actions are dualistic; "doing" and "doer," for example. But not in the case of God - Creation=Creator.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Om, uh, uhhhh.

Didn't you accuse me of being illogical in another thread? The most basic ability to reason would show you the contradiction in your above statement.

An example is that God is beyond "doingness," if you consider the three terms. There's no contradiction, because again, it's nondualistic.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Okay, I am officially through debating you on this. You are either a troll or in need of psychiatric hospitalization, and this is about the fourth thread on this topic I have debated you in in the past eight days. You are just too far beyond reason on this issue. Good luck.

No big deal. I didn't make this thread for you alone, but anyone who finds God-concepts difficult to understand. Perhaps I made it more difficult for some, or less for others, but whatever. I think this thread is much more direct yet controversial to popular belief, but perhaps more controversial to atheists.

Originally Posted by Noogah

Okay man, I made a thread on this called "Could God create a rock so big..."

And another thread called "A clearer explanation of salvation"

In about four days, a war was raging. In the end, one of the threads was locked. Both sides had made strong points, and the argument remained unresolved. (Only in the thread. Personally, most everybody else believed that they had the answer) I think that's the way it's gonna remain, and I don't think another one of these threads is a good idea.

It wasn't much of a war, I'd say about 50% of it was just game-playing and poking fun. All I'm interested in is getting to the core of the issue. When it comes down to it, I'm just trying to make things clearer. But perhaps, it is just hypocrisy, who knows.

Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

As far as I'm concerned, this is pretty much the only sane way of talking about god. I've never run across a good definition that doesn't pretty much boil down to this.

That's good to know really, glad it helps. This is the kind of information that is stripped of dogma and religious error, so it's more likely to be clear. Even still, most atheists probably dislike it.

Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish

Isn't this just about semantics? It always was. God I hate these arguments...

Anything to contribute?