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      Congratulations Noogah on finding so many new and exciting ways of saying 'it just is'.

      Do you not understand the difference between making an assertion and giving a logical argument for an assertion?

      That's all you've ever done. 'It can't.' 'It's logically impossible'. 'Consciousness isn't made of atoms'. No, that was the statement I asked you to prove. I didn't ask you to state it again.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Noogah View Post
      I am sick of this thread!!!

      May it fall to the bottom, and eternally rot!
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      Question: What is "will" in terms of computer activity?

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      You know what, I really am done here. Misinterperet me as much as you like.

      I'm really getting sick of it, and it's making me angry. I can't make good posts when I'm angry, and no one likes being angry.

      Bye bye thread.
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      Has anyone read, The Great Divorce?

      I love his depiction of Hell.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei
      For the record the question was 'why is it illogical that the brain can cause consciousness', and of course, you still haven't attempted to answer it anywhere.
      This is still a very controverse subject. In science it is still debated much.
      As far as I understand, the point is that it is not possible to actualy locate
      consciousness inside the brain, but it is more a collective, so it happens as
      a sum of activities, including, but not exclusivly, the brain.

      It seems to me important to distinguish between mind and consciousness also.

      I thought this was an interesting read also, this is just a small excerpt,
      I'd suggest to read it in its entirety - it doesn't appear to be of a very
      high scientific level, but I still thought it was interesting:

      If we look at a much larger system—a single cell, like an amoeba—we find that, though it lacks eyes, still it perceives light and dark and threatening shapes and substances. And though it lacks a brain, still it behaves purposefully It gathers food, moves in the direction of food and away from danger, and reproduces when it has begun to fail or the environment is supportive of new life. And if we look at the other end of the spectrum, say our own Industrial Culture, we see a system that takes in matter, information, and energy to maintain itself, moving to where those things are located, avoiding immediate dangers, etc..

      Consciousness, it seems, is present throughout all systems—all energy patterns—from the smallest and simplest to the complexities of humanity and our cultures. In terms of awareness and purposive behavior, the atomic structure of a car may be said to have all the consciousness of its human counterpart. Consciousness is even present in a “quantum vacuum” (a space from which all atoms and particles and energy has been removed) causing new wave-particles to “pop” into it at seemingly random intervals, usually to “pop” out just as quickly, but sometimes to join up with other wave-particles in the area.

      We can say, therefore, that the universe has consciousness—is a “field of infinite possibility” out of which all matter and energy take form—and that this consciousness is present in and through all space and time.
      http://cornerstone.wwwhubs.com/150.9.htm
      Last edited by dajo; 11-03-2009 at 04:51 PM.

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