I'm not your friend. |
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I sent a friend this message right after an argument... |
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I'm not your friend. |
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Nono, that wasnt the point I was making. I was saying, that the 12-15 year old mainstream "christian" kids, are not truly christian because they dont try to be christ like. Sure, they go to church etc, but the next day at school they diss and bully people. Also, the part about the dumb Christians...most young Christians are unintelligent because they never think deeply about what they believe in. |
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Children are children. They have yet to develop to the point where they question there beliefs and either confirm and strengthen them are reject them entirely, and of course, the compromise |
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Not bragging. Right. |
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Can you see me now?
A part of the belief system involves thinking that the followers of the faith will go to heaven, and that those who commit "wrongs" will be cast into hellfire. >> One kind of person is "more good" than another, and by extension better than. So, what is a true Christian to you? |
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Acid, I personally think you are evolving nicely. Keep it up. |
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It seems that this thread is very judgmental of someone else... Do you have a right to judge that person? I think Plato said it best, "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." |
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Acid, if you ever read this, heed what I tell you.... |
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Bash me? For What? What CAN you bash me for.... |
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I have typed the entire text of the Scripture, Old and New, into a computer. Gave me time to think about it. |
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Last edited by Philosopher8659; 07-16-2010 at 02:38 AM.
I for one understand what you're going through |
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I bet these kids are such jerks outside of church because they have been raised by middle-class and upper-class parents and siblings who all believe that they are the "chosen ones" who are "saved" and so they already have it all made. They are privileged. Religion is not a burning quest in their hearts, but a doctrine inherited unconsciously, a pleasant burden that justifies their sense of superiority. Their minds not awakened, they are the same as any other kid, Christian or not, but they believe they are better. They accept the reality that they are presented with. Beware the same fate. Anybody can feel justified to feel superior, and even logically so, but the truth is that nobody knows, so everybody is wrong. Some just cling to their ignorance and deny it, while others accept it and humbly keep growing. |
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Last edited by Dannon Oneironaut; 07-17-2010 at 07:53 AM.
I've been a closeted atheist (not that I knew what the term meant at the time) since I was 7 or 8. I'm 16 now, and my views haven't really changed, only gotten stronger. I grew up in a moderately religious Mslim family, but I can't say I EVER truly believed in God. My father and brother believe in the koran, my mother in a deity, and I learned today that my sister is an atheist. My point is, no one is ever too young to question religious beliefs. I may be different from the average person, and my IQ and test score place me well into the 99th percentile, but I'm sure there are plenty of others who question God at far younger I've been a closeted atheist (not that I knew what the term meant at the time) since I was 7 or 8. I'm 16 now, and my views haven't really changed, only gotten stronger. I grew up in a moderately religious Mslim family, but I can't say I EVER truly believed in God. My father and brother believe in the koran, my mother in a deity, and I learned today that my sister is an atheist. My point is, no one is ever too young to question religious beliefs. I may be different from the average person, and my IQ and test score place me well into the 99th percentile, but I'm sure there are plenty of others who question God at far younger ages than you may think. There must be other inquisitive young children who have questioned the existence of god. Just becuase you didn't do so in elementary school doesn't mean others didn't. |
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in response to this post, i would like to say that you are right in alot of ways. for instance, many christian children and even adults are very narrow minded, and only believe in the faith due to their parents and pastors. Yes, they can be very stupid ( but this is because for some reason christian parents believe they should shelter their kids from the "evil outside" instead of letting them actually grow in the world around them and see what they are "up against" ) but mental compasity has nothing to do with religion. you don't need to be smart to have faith, that's the beauty of it. after all, wisdom and knowledge are two different things. and neither necessarily come with age. Next, you are right about alot of people only looking at the good in the bible and never studeing the bad, BUT THE BIBLE IS NOT A SUGAR COATED BED TIME STORY. it is a very real and very correct word of god. And yes there are alot of evil, nasty, disturbing things in the bible, but the world is an evil, nast, disturbing place. we cannot expect god to NOT cover the bad topics about our world, and if we did then there is no reason for us to even read it. many of the things in the bible are bout combating the evil in our very "sinful" world. and so there must be reference to the evil in it. for instance ( you cannot shoot targets, without the targets ) and you cannot learn about the bad, if there is no bad. So i find it slightly immature and very unwise of someone to attempt to cause a christian to lose his faith in god, when you aren't YET ready to commit to the faith itself and study its teachings IN CONTEXT. For example. you cannot say you like chocolate better than vanilla, if you have not yet tasted vanilla itself. Now im not calling you stupid, for some things you say are unfortunately true regarding the behavior of many christian people, but i am telling you that you are in the wrong to say what you have just said without evidence to back it up. So do a little research of your own before telling someone they know little of what they believe. I believe you are very intelligent, just off the mark, which is okay, who am i to tell you whats right or wrong, that is for you to decide. And i think we all can relate to the fact that we are imperfect and do sin, just because we want to become more like god, doesn't mean we have no room for error. if god expected us to never spear of sin again after becoming christian then he wouldn't have died for us. the reason he died for us was to cover all the sin we had committed, commit, and will commit in the future. its not just a one time deal, he loved us enough to take on our sin. and since you do not know this, god IS, he WAS, and he always will BE. you talk of him like he isn't here now. isn't in the room with you, doesn't still love you. so do some research, and give reason to you theory BEFORE you confront us. its like going to court without a lawyer, UNWISE. but i do believe you are intelligent, and i do admire you for questioning your beliefs, just don;t question others for their beliefs and problems until you have solved your own. no one it perfect my friend. and i don't personally believe your age is important in this matter, and thus i do not give you any grace because you are young, i give it to you because you deserve it. for instance, i am 15 years old, and still, i speak my mind, as do you. But i don't believe you should take someone from their own faith until you settle yours. |
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i would also like to add that noware in the bible does god allow women to be raped 2 save his angels. The angels blinded the men whom came to rape the women and helped them to escape. look it up, Gen Chapter 19 |
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