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      100% WILD success...

      ...is what I would like to achieve, and I think it's very possible. I have been reading a lot about lucid dreaming in the eyes of different cultures, and the WILD usually has some kind of religious significance, but it is also (seemingly) the most common way for people to enter lucidity (I have come across it in certain native north/central/south american spiritual descriptions and, I think most famously, "Tibetan dream yoga"). I have a strong belief that all it takes is practice and experimentation to find the right techniques to be able to enter directly into REM from any waking state (granted, in certain situations it may require more effort). Is anyone here interested in devoting a few weeks to try to unravel the secrets of volitional awareness-state transition? I have been dabbling a little bit, but I think it would be greatly beneficial to have more than one test subject. I propose keeping a record of every attempt, something like this:

      Time of day:

      Amount of sleep in preceeding 24 hour time period:

      Sleepiness quotient (describe anyway you like):

      Total duration of attempt:

      State of mind before beginning (this is very ambiguous, and rightly so--interpret however you want):

      State of mind after attempt:

      Detailed description of everything you can remember from the experience (i.e. specific sounds, specific images, specific scenes, loss of awareness, description of your focus or lack thereof, etc...Anything you can think of to best reproduce in words what you experienced):

      Total success rating in your mind, on a subjective scale:


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      If you can think of anything else relevant to add to this "report", go for it. I realize this whole "experiment" is extremely subjective, but I think it may be yield some worthwhile results if there is any interest.
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      definitely something I woud be interested in, but I am a beginner, so I need to work on LDing for a while first, try WILDing a bit, etc.

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      I heard of 100% WILD successes before on this forum. Some people claim they can do it every nite. I've also heard that some people can do it from the very beginning of sleep, not even after 4 - 6 hours. That is something I would truely love to master.


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      I'm definitly interested! I'll keep you informed how things go...

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      i'm also interested but i'm a newb at wild


      Am I crazy?

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      Originally posted by skuruza
      i'm also interested but i'm a newb at wild
      me too!
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      I would love to achieve this, but I have problems with falling asleep after waking up, my mind is just too active afterwards.But im gonna try to change my sleeping patterns and see if that helps any.

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      What you are asking is just record your WILD attempts, right?

      Here goes:

      [list] 7:50 PM
      Amount of sleep in preceeding 24 hour time period: about 8.5 hours
      Sleepiness quotient (describe anyway you like): not very physically tired, but VERY low energy. All I wanted to do is go to sleep. (Probably a side affect of getting over a bad cold/sinusitis, and the antibiotics used.)
      Total duration of attempt: 30 minutes
      State of mind before beginning (this is very ambiguous, and rightly so--interpret however you want): bored. Want to sleep. too lazy to do anything.
      State of mind after attempt: Normal awareness. Better mood. Relaxed. Undertone of excessive sleepiness remaining.
      Detailed description of everything you can remember from the experience (i.e. specific sounds, specific images, specific scenes, loss of awareness, description of your focus or lack thereof, etc...Anything you can think of to best reproduce in words what you experienced): Basically as I concentrated on my breathin in order to relax, I started to feel a heaviness in my legs and hands, and some tingling sensations in my upper legs, and groin. I had some trouble focusing, so whenever I lost focus, I imagined being on a cloud with buddha, and feeling the soft cloud under my feet, seeing the area around (other clouds/sky), just trying to focus on something. Eventually, I started feeling more heaviness, the feeling of sinking into the bed. After a while I decided i was ready to try to WILD, and started counting, "1, I am lucid" "2, I am lucid"... with a breath either in or out for each count. When I concentrated on the counting the tingling intensified, covering my whole legs, with some vibrating feelings. Also, at some times I felt my heartbeat intensify on out breaths, and speed up but weaken on in breaths. Eventually I decided to concentrate less on my breathing, and just count. This caused the sensations to intensify even more. At some point I got major tingling in my toes. This passed, and at other times I had tinglings in my arms for short periods of time. One time I had a short burst of bigtime tingling in my left arm, while my right arm stayed the same. To note, other than physical sensations I did not experience other effects, there were no imagery/light patterns, and there were maybe an artificial sound or two, but nothing I remember. At count 210 or so, I decided to pull the plug as I felt that I had reached the limit of what I was going to feel, and was not going to get any further.
      Total success rating in your mind, on a subjective scale: Not even close to a successful WILD, but I am very happy with it considering it's my first time, and the time I did it in (with no sleep prior to the attempt).
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      By the way, what exactly is sleep paralysis? Were the vibrations and sensations in my arms and legs and the feeling of heaviness an example of it?

      Last night I woke myself up at about 4 to do a WILD, but as I had a somewhat scary, and stressing dream (which I don't remember), in which I was sweating upon waking up, and felt stressed, I decided to just go to sleep, as I didn't feel comfortable WILDing, as I heard it can be scary. (I know it can't harm you, but when you're already a bit flustered ... You don't want to make it worse.)

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      thanks for your report!

      sleep paralysis seems to be different for everyone. as for me, i experience an overpowering tinnitus, and feel like my entire body is buzzing. it's a difficult thing to describe, but once you have experienced it a few times you will be able to determine exactly when it happens.

      i'm going to try to start posting to this thread, but recently all of my WILDs have been serendiptious--happening only upon waking in the morning from a dream. in terms of preparing oneself for a WILD without having slept at all, or during a WBTB, for me it only works if i don't try to WILD, but instead let myself drift off and try to maintain some kind of awareness as that happens. i usually experience tingling (much like paresthesias) in my limbs and a kind of pressure on my torso. if i pay too much attention to this i wake up too much for the WILD to happen. it seems very much to be a passive process that requires a small amount of active concentration.
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      Im not sure I see the experiment. This is basically a goal everyone hear is trying to reach. I doubt theres a "trick" to it. I imagine its, like most things, habit. So I'll post results in 10 to 15 years and then Id love to hear how youre all doing.
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      let's say even 20 for me, fellow nintendoist
      totally unable to WILD

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      I&#39;ve been LDing for around 14 years now and I tried the WILD technique about 2-3 months ago. I have to say it was the craziest thing I have ever encountered&#33; I&#39;ll list off what had happened.


      It took about 40 minutes to an hour for it to start kicking in.
      it was dark in my room and very very quiet.
      I concentrated on my breathing and kept doing math problems out loud to keep my mind awake.
      Then it started. At first I could see small bits of light sort of like when you push your fingers against your closed eyes. I tried not to watch the lights too much (I heard it can cuase you to pass out sort of like hypnosis).

      Then I noticed movement on the far side of my room. It looked as if the shadow across from me was walking back and forth from one wall to the other. It wasn&#39;t from the shadow realy moving, I could still see where the shadow realy was but it was like there was movement within it.

      Then my legs and arms got heavy, I tried to lift them but there was no responce. I got a realy cold feeling on the bottom of my feet, the cold feeling slowly ran up the back of my legs and stopped around the lower back. After a few minutes the feeling went away and was replaced by a strong tingly feeling that covered my whole body. It felt like the blanket I was under was floating just above the skin.

      I then noticed I could hear noises, like someone was playing a radio outside my window, and on the second floor and on a dead end road that is weird..

      I felt vibrations like someone was walking around my bed (more like stomping) I asked everyone in the house in the morning if any had gotten up during the night and got "no" from all of them.

      And when I fell asleep I didn&#39;t notice it until I realized that I had control of my body again and the tingly feeling was gone. I did a few RCs and I was dreaming..


      I haven&#39;t done it since but I would like to. lol and when I told my gf&#39;s dad about that night he said that I had to of been on drugs. LOL

      Hope that all helps.
      -AdvenDreams-

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      Quote Originally Posted by mongreloctopus View Post
      ...is what I would like to achieve, and I think it&#39;s very possible. I have been reading a lot about lucid dreaming in the eyes of different cultures, and the WILD usually has some kind of religious significance, but it is also (seemingly) the most common way for people to enter lucidity (I have come across it in certain native north/central/south american spiritual descriptions and, I think most famously, "Tibetan dream yoga"). I have a strong belief that all it takes is practice and experimentation to find the right techniques to be able to enter directly into REM from any waking state (granted, in certain situations it may require more effort). Is anyone here interested in devoting a few weeks to try to unravel the secrets of volitional awareness-state transition? I have been dabbling a little bit, but I think it would be greatly beneficial to have more than one test subject. I propose keeping a record of every attempt, something like this:
      Time of day:
      Amount of sleep in preceeding 24 hour time period:
      Sleepiness quotient (describe anyway you like):
      Total duration of attempt:
      State of mind before beginning (this is very ambiguous, and rightly so--interpret however you want):
      State of mind after attempt:
      Detailed description of everything you can remember from the experience (i.e. specific sounds, specific images, specific scenes, loss of awareness, description of your focus or lack thereof, etc...Anything you can think of to best reproduce in words what you experienced):
      Total success rating in your mind, on a subjective scale:
      ----------------------
      If you can think of anything else relevant to add to this "report", go for it. I realize this whole "experiment" is extremely subjective, but I think it may be yield some worthwhile results if there is any interest.
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      ill def be a part of this research topic... but i can do it pretty frequently... not 100% success rate but more like 90% so... that might make me like a skewed variable or something... maybe u should use me as a control group


      Quote Originally Posted by mongreloctopus View Post
      Im not sure I see the experiment. This is basically a goal everyone hear is trying to reach. I doubt theres a "trick" to it. I imagine its, like most things, habit. So I&#39;ll post results in 10 to 15 years and then Id love to hear how youre all doing.
      [/b]
      WILDing isnt 100% concentrated power of will. its not about thinking so hard u break out in sweat beads. i bet theres sort of a some people are just better at it then others thing in there too. but i think some people concentrate on focusing to much and should more just think about letting go. its not like you must keep counting oh what about my cool day- no i have to keep counting.... its more like trying to watch a movie on the back of ur eyelids... ive always liked to just lay down face up and just watch, not force anything to come up, just watch. the counting is supposed to help calm u down while still keeping u with a realization of whats going on... its not like u have to do this. if your having trouble with the counting just... dont do it. do whatever method works for u, experiment. thats what ive always thought anyway.
      these jokes in no way reflect the opinion of mountain or his affiliates and subsidiary corporations, and as such he is immune from all whining, bitching, complaining, lecturing, the pointing out of ignorance, awareness raising, lawsuits etc. if you would like mountain to stop making racist jokes, he in turn would like you to go f*ck yourself</span>.

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