Thread: Shared Lucids

Given that there is zero evidence that conciousness can extend outside of the cerbral cortex, this is on the same level as other unsupported alleged phenomona, such as wishes, OOBEs and ESP.

It's also stated that to post in these particular threads you have to believe in such things.

Originally Posted by Photolysis

Are you telepathic? Can you hear other people's thoughts*?

Nope. Therefore shared dreaming is impossible**. QED.

*If you can hear other voices then you need to seek help.
**Telepathy would be a requirement since dreams are constructs of the mind, and in order to share this with someone, it would require a link from mind to mind, i.e. telepathy.

Ahhhh, a voice of reason.

Originally Posted by Chastity-Autumn

It's also stated that to post in these particular threads you have to believe in such things.

Hi! Can you please point me to where it states one must be a True Believer to voice one's viewpoint?

Thanks in advance!

Hi there!

But I do apologise, it does say "Here OBEs, dream precognition, sharing dreams, and other freaky paranormal things can be discussed. Note that this particular forum is ONLY for members who BELIEVE in the aforementioned topics." but it's actually stated under the "Beyond dreaming thread."

My mistake. Go about your business.

And the world is a disc they said...

Reality, is a shared "lucid" ...

Muse on it. :p

Originally Posted by G0MPgomp

Reality, is a shared "lucid" ...

Muse on it. :p

And a pretty realistic and long lasting one too

Originally Posted by ShadowmanX

And a pretty realistic and long lasting one too

Agreed!

Originally Posted by Howie

What are the possibilties that dream sharing exists on a plane much like astral projection.
Rather than an actual dream.

This would allow for the two individuals to simotaniously exist without the compromise on a dream scene.

I actually believe in the definate possibility of a dream plane.

Btw I could possibly take part in this but the other people involved would have to find me and make me lucid...cuz I'm no good at WILD and I'm not bad at DILD but my dreamsign is rather infrequent, so the chances of me already being lucid when you find me are practically nil.

But don't worry about me waking up or losing my lucidity once you make me aware. Becoming lucid is the tough part for me, but once I am excellent at mantaining it.

There are many different theories one can make up.
For example you could also look at it like a server equivalent:

What if when you're dreaming it's nothing more than playing a sandbox game on a predefined area on a server?

Then if someone would want to have a shared dream, all they'd have to do is find that server and connect to it.

And where or what is that server exactly, does it have protection?

I tried using this theory to connect to other people's dreams, the results?:

I WANT TO ENTER THOU DREAM, MISTER *NAME*.
AND I SHALL ENTER THROUGH THIS DOOR!

*Door appears (or was already there)*
*Me opens door*
*Door leads to black void*
*I wake up*

An interesting bit I read was about some story about ''dream wizards'' but that people had to be willing to let someone in, kind of like a Dream-Firewall, if you wish.

Perhaps that black void I kept walking into was the result of me leaving my own server, failing to enter the other and being stuck in nothingness?

I do believe that a girl managed to enter my dream through a certain manner though, but I don't know how she accomplished it.

Try to join a dream of mine.

Create a door and say, "When I pass through this door, I will enter WakataDreamer's current dream. If he is not currently dreaming then I will be unable to open the door until he enters a dream." If it works and you pass through the door, try to identify me ("I will now teleport and wind up directly in front of WakataDreamer," if you will) and remind me to do a reality check. Tell me that you are that guy from the forums.

If you decide to try, tell me, and I'll tell you if it worked.

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

I actually believe in the definate possibility of a dream plane.

Btw I could possibly take part in this but the other people involved would have to find me and make me lucid...cuz I'm no good at WILD and I'm not bad at DILD but my dreamsign is rather infrequent, so the chances of me already being lucid when you find me are practically nil.

But don't worry about me waking up or losing my lucidity once you make me aware. Becoming lucid is the tough part for me, but once I am excellent at mantaining it.

try it like me, i just do a lot of Reality Checks during the day,...which reminds me *doing RC*. lately it finally brought the wanted effect, I had 3 Lucids in 2 nights, which where my 3rd to 5th lucid . Anyone ever shot a lightning in the sky? Thats the greatest thing I've ever done, when the lightning arrived at the horizon a huge net of lightnings grew there, it looked extremely cool.

Anyway since at last I have good lasting lucids, at least I hope they will come more regular now, I will try to establish one of my lucid tasks: "Infiltrating another persons dream". That'll gonna be interessting, hehe

Just had an interesting thought. I know nothing about psychology, or neurolog or anything, but I'm just wondering what would happen if you put to people in a room (they are both asleep), and hooked one of them up to an EEG. When they dream, you could possible translate the EEG's data into an external stimulus, such as a sound or flashing light. When the other person is exposed to this stimuli, what would be the reaction? Would it trigger a similar dream, or just annoy them? Just a thought

I dislike seeing shared lucid threads since its not possible. -_-

I've had several. One time I had one with a friend and since it seemed so much like it was really him, after I woke up I wrote down tons of details and pictures from the dream so I could show him and see if he remembered. When we met up we instantly and simultaneously started talking about the dream and he also had a written description and drawings, everything was completely identical, we were definitely amazed.


Although I think the majority of the time people are just DCs

Originally Posted by shotbirds

I dislike seeing shared lucid threads since its not possible. -_-

Closed Minded. /discussion

Closed Minded

Disregarding laws of physics, modern medicine, and using confirmation bias.

/discussion

The Experiment I have come up with is the following.
In dream, when you are interacting with other people (I don't know how to look for specific people, I only happen across them accidentally in dream), provide contact information in dream, and see if anyone actually replies in real life. Include a key word, phrase, or something, that they would only have been able to know if at anytime they shared your dream. Who knows who you might hear from in the waking world.
I would like to see some experienced lucid dreamers try this and report their findings. I still can't induce these at the drop of a hat, but I am getting better at it. Maybe some of you experienced dreamers can do it more readily and easily, but i am currently attempting this experiment to see if my theory of unified consciousness is true.

If this experiment is still going on..... maybe it would be best to have the two people in the same room/house. They should also know each other very well. This might explain why husband and wife report shared dreams.

That won't work very well, I think.
Dreams aren't my only interest and research, and if my theory is right, unified consciousness will transcend space and time as individual consciousness does. That being the case, whether two people are in the same house or on opposite sides of the world, distance doesn't matter. On that note, if two people are in the same house, it does not necessarily mean they are close by in the dream world.
Just because two people sleep close by, doesn't mean that they will necessarily interact in the dream world.

Both people would have to be very experienced dream walkers to be able to consciously find one another in the dream world. I am not the most experienced in this, so in my inexperience I am going to try it in a more abstract and/or random manner. I do not know any other experienced dream walkers either, so finding a partner won't be easy.

I believe the reasoning behind a couple sharing dreams is because their consciousness develops a link through interaction in the Waking world. The funny thing about consciousness is that it is not a material thing, and the interacting of two conscious beings develops a subtle bond. Through continuous interaction between two consciousnesses, the bond strengthens. It is not a far step to believe that this bond can carry over beyond the physical realm and into that of the dream realm.
A means of in-dream contact can be because of this bond, or because of the same thing that happens during WILDs; continuous thought of something tends to evoke an in-dream interaction with said thought. A couple will almost always think of the other individual, so the interaction between the two in the dream world is more likely. Either the bond is the cause, or the bond is an advantage to the cause.

I have a twin sister that I usually try to share a dream with. Its actually a habit of mine in LDs to tell her that she's dreaming when I see her, she does the same thing but we have not been able to recall telling each other that were dreaming.
We usually have 1-2 LDs per week and we sometimes have one on the same night. Im pretty sure shared LDs are possible and we will continue trying to have one.

This is the tricky thing; how can a person be sure the person in the dream they are interacting with is the actual person (in this case your sister), or just a representation of your sister originating from your mind?
I am also wondering if any particular individual one interacts with in a dream is actually who they appear to be; shapes and peoples appearances change quite readily in the dream world, and many people don't actually appear in the dream as they appear in real life. This is a setback in the experiment when attempting it with a particular person, ie. you and your sister.

Originally Posted by RadiantZeal

This is the tricky thing; how can a person be sure the person in the dream they are interacting with is the actual person (in this case your sister), or just a representation of your sister originating from your mind?
I am also wondering if any particular individual one interacts with in a dream is actually who they appear to be; shapes and peoples appearances change quite readily in the dream world, and many people don't actually appear in the dream as they appear in real life. This is a setback in the experiment when attempting it with a particular person, ie. you and your sister.

Im actually sure it could be a representation of her, but Im not to sure.